ROM Hack New powersaves 3ds thread

PokeChampion

Well-Known Member
Member
Joined
Apr 5, 2014
Messages
324
Trophies
0
Age
26
XP
132
Country
United States
If there's any local people around where I live (Florida) that have any hacked pokemon. Or if anybody else has any unreleased pokemon that're shiny and want to be traded locally
 

popeel1

Well-Known Member
Member
Joined
Aug 14, 2012
Messages
110
Trophies
0
Age
27
Location
Toronto
XP
199
Country
Canada
guys! somebody from project pokemom has found a way to inject .pkx and uploaded them to his game using the datel power save!
 

spoonman54321

Well-Known Member
Newcomer
Joined
Jun 29, 2013
Messages
60
Trophies
0
Age
40
XP
213
Country
United States
I'm willing to bet it doesn't work with updated 3DS firmware, and possibly using gateway or something too. Nothing worth going too crazy over unless it works with both:
-current official 3DS firmware
-actual retail cart, not gateway

not one or the other. both.
 

Snailface

My frothing demand for 3ds homebrew is increasing
Member
Joined
Sep 20, 2010
Messages
4,324
Trophies
2
Age
40
Location
Engine Room with Cyan, watching him learn.
XP
2,256
I'm willing to bet it doesn't work with updated 3DS firmware, and possibly using gateway or something too. Nothing worth going too crazy over unless it works with both:
-current official 3DS firmware
-actual retail cart, not gateway

not one or the other. both.
It works with both. He fully decrypted his poke XY save (not easy to do) and got datel to resign his save . He doesn't have a GW.
 

spoonman54321

Well-Known Member
Newcomer
Joined
Jun 29, 2013
Messages
60
Trophies
0
Age
40
XP
213
Country
United States
So is everyone smart enough to break the game open it seems. Oh well. I'll just sit here with Team Dumb And Waiting For Information.
 

gamesquest1

Nabnut
Former Staff
Joined
Sep 23, 2013
Messages
15,153
Trophies
2
XP
12,247
Damn, why bother showing us stuff if they don't even bother to release it? *cough cough 3ds ram dumping*
we all know why, they want/need this ---->:bow: unfortunately its then followed by this----->:hateit: after they say "but only for me nehneh"
i dont see why people keep getting excited about it all :rofl2:#ssdd
 

spoonman54321

Well-Known Member
Newcomer
Joined
Jun 29, 2013
Messages
60
Trophies
0
Age
40
XP
213
Country
United States
we all know why, they want/need this ---->:bow: unfortunately its then followed by this----->:hateit: after they say "but only for me nehneh"
i dont see why people keep getting excited about it all :rofl2:#ssdd

exactly. do it for yourself, keep it for yourself, share it or don't. but don't be a dick about it and e-brag.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Simon Blackquill

therealplicks

Well-Known Member
Newcomer
Joined
Apr 8, 2014
Messages
47
Trophies
0
XP
94
Country
Some people are actually interested in seeing the unreleased moves, including myself. I don't really consider this bragging, more along the lines of showing people what can be achieved through a lot of hard work.
 
  • Like
Reactions: kingaz and Hozu

gamesquest1

Nabnut
Former Staff
Joined
Sep 23, 2013
Messages
15,153
Trophies
2
XP
12,247
first guy sharing....yeah well done you found some hidden pokemon.......after the 6th "reveal" its just boring now :P

no offense to the guy that did it, i'm sure it was nice to get it done but its just like.....ok.....annnnnndddd?
 

Kaphotics

badc0ded
Member
Joined
Sep 10, 2010
Messages
612
Trophies
0
XP
626
Country
United States
we all know why, they want/need this ---->:bow: unfortunately its then followed by this----->:hateit: after they say "but only for me nehneh"
i dont see why people keep getting excited about it all :rofl2:#ssdd


Naw. PP is research oriented, not doing it for glory or attention.

The entire thing was proof of concept -- and yeah, it worked. We had noticed that we could change the AES MAC of the save and Datel never rejected it, however if there was any bad hash it would return a "Web Operation Failed" error. So we eventually figured out all of the hashes and had to brute force some data that we couldn't straight up decrypt. Only a few minutes of (intelligent) brute forcing is all that was required.

Datel was stupid and didn't verify the AES MAC of the saves they were applying cheats to; they cut corners and assumed that people would never be able to reverse engineer the DISA/DIFI hashes... so much for that!

We took save files and injected about 1000 mons for various purposes (brute forcing out Location Index Numbers) plus some illegal/unreleased stuff to keep for giggles. Ended up bricking one of the carts by writing too much data, but with that we figured out a way Datel is actually bricking user's carts (bad programming in writing back too much data; their backups/edits can do this).

The trick was then publicly revealed in PP's IRC and (as expected) Datel ended up patching it. It's good that they did; keeps the lawyers away and prevents dishonest people from ruining online play.

tl;dr: The trick is no longer possible -- Datel can't & won't let people inject their own content.
 

truedread

Active Member
Newcomer
Joined
Apr 1, 2014
Messages
41
Trophies
1
Age
27
XP
184
Country
United States
Naw. PP is research oriented, not doing it for glory or attention.

The entire thing was proof of concept -- and yeah, it worked. We had noticed that we could change the AES MAC of the save and Datel never rejected it, however if there was any bad hash it would return a "Web Operation Failed" error. So we eventually figured out all of the hashes and had to brute force some data that we couldn't straight up decrypt. Only a few minutes of (intelligent) brute forcing is all that was required.

Datel was stupid and didn't verify the AES MAC of the saves they were applying cheats to; they cut corners and assumed that people would never be able to reverse engineer the DISA/DIFI hashes... so much for that!

We took save files and injected about 1000 mons for various purposes (brute forcing out Location Index Numbers) plus some illegal/unreleased stuff to keep for giggles. Ended up bricking one of the carts by writing too much data, but with that we figured out a way Datel is actually bricking user's carts (bad programming in writing back too much data; their backups/edits can do this).

The trick was then publicly revealed in PP's IRC and (as expected) Datel ended up patching it. It's good that they did; keeps the lawyers away and prevents dishonest people from ruining online play.

tl;dr: The trick is no longer possible -- Datel can't & won't let people inject their own content.

Of course it's patched, too good to be true.
 

Newbie1

Active Member
Newcomer
Joined
Apr 18, 2014
Messages
39
Trophies
0
Age
39
XP
85
Country
United States
So Kaphotics you guys purposely leaked it knowing Datel was watching to make sure no one else would be able to do what you and Scires did even though there's a few of us trying.

Way to be a hero, thanks for that.


I just got done with most of my hashes too...
 

gamesquest1

Nabnut
Former Staff
Joined
Sep 23, 2013
Messages
15,153
Trophies
2
XP
12,247
it would of been patched pretty much straightaway anyway and it would be cheat engine all over again XD

that was patched within a few hours of going public
 

Site & Scene News

Popular threads in this forum

General chit-chat
Help Users
  • No one is chatting at the moment.
  • BigOnYa @ BigOnYa:
    Biomutant looks cool tho, may have to try that
  • Quincy @ Quincy:
    Usually when such a big title leaks the Temp will be the first to report about it (going off of historical reports here, Pokemon SV being the latest one I can recall seeing pop up here)
  • K3Nv2 @ K3Nv2:
    I still like how a freaking mp3 file hacks webos all that security defeated by text yet again
  • BigOnYa @ BigOnYa:
    They have simulators for everything nowdays, cray cray. How about a sim that shows you playing the Switch.
  • K3Nv2 @ K3Nv2:
    That's called yuzu
    +1
  • BigOnYa @ BigOnYa:
    I want a 120hz 4k tv but crazy how more expensive the 120hz over the 60hz are. Or even more crazy is the price of 8k's.
  • K3Nv2 @ K3Nv2:
    No real point since movies are 30fps
  • BigOnYa @ BigOnYa:
    Not a big movie buff, more of a gamer tbh. And Series X is 120hz 8k ready, but yea only 120hz 4k games out right now, but thinking of in the future.
  • K3Nv2 @ K3Nv2:
    Mostly why you never see TV manufacturers going post 60hz
  • BigOnYa @ BigOnYa:
    I only watch tv when i goto bed, it puts me to sleep, and I have a nas drive filled w my fav shows so i can watch them in order, commercial free. I usually watch Married w Children, or South Park
  • K3Nv2 @ K3Nv2:
    Stremio ruined my need for nas
  • BigOnYa @ BigOnYa:
    I stream from Nas to firestick, one on every tv, and use Kodi. I'm happy w it, plays everything. (I pirate/torrent shows/movies on pc, and put on nas)
  • K3Nv2 @ K3Nv2:
    Kodi repost are still pretty popular
  • BigOnYa @ BigOnYa:
    What the hell is Kodi reposts? what do you mean, or "Wut?" -xdqwerty
  • K3Nv2 @ K3Nv2:
    Google them basically web crawlers to movie sites
  • BigOnYa @ BigOnYa:
    oh you mean the 3rd party apps on Kodi, yea i know what you mean, yea there are still a few cool ones, in fact watched the new planet of the apes movie other night w wifey thru one, was good pic surprisingly, not a cam
  • BigOnYa @ BigOnYa:
    Damn, only $2.06 and free shipping. Gotta cost more for them to ship than $2.06
  • BigOnYa @ BigOnYa:
    I got my Dad a firestick for Xmas and showed him those 3rd party sites on Kodi, he loves it, all he watches anymore. He said he has got 3 letters from AT&T already about pirating, but he says f them, let them shut my internet off (He wants out of his AT&T contract anyways)
  • K3Nv2 @ K3Nv2:
    That's where stremio comes to play never got a letter about it
  • BigOnYa @ BigOnYa:
    I just use a VPN, even give him my login and password so can use it also, and he refuses, he's funny.
  • BigOnYa @ BigOnYa:
    I had to find and get him an old style flip phone even without text, cause thats what he wanted. No text, no internet, only phone calls. Old, old school.
    K3Nv2 @ K3Nv2: @BigOnYa...