OUYA will make its way to Retail Stores

[Quietlyawesome94]

I'll state just a few reasons I'd buy this.

- Direct XBMC support is planned for the device. People freaked out when they saw the Rasberry Pi thinking of how they could make it a media center. For just $65 more you get a device with a more powerful processor, GPU?, WIFI, Bluetooth, and a gaming controller. Also, with this running Android, I wouldn't be surprised to see it running custom ROMS with overclock kernels and whatnot. It's a perfect toy for someone who wants to tinker and hack around with it. I'd sell my Pi and get this to run XBMC if I had the cash.

- Emulation! The point goes that much farther with the recent port of Retroarch to Android. Right away, you have over 13 cores which can run MAME, SNES, Cave Story, NES, GBA, PSX etc. along with Mupen64 Plus AE and the rapidly progressing PPSSPP emulator. I see this as a perfect little box to take with me for an old school Goldeneye/Mario Kart 64 LAN party.

By the way, this is really going to help with the iOS snobs who say that their platform gets the better mobile games either first, or exclusively. Devices like Ouya and NVIDIA's Project Shield are really jump starting game development for Android, and with Ouya running the same hardware and OS as its Android brethren, I see no reason for developers to not later release their Ouya games on the Play Store. It's a win for Indie developers and a win for the gaming ecosystem on Android.

So there, love it or hate it, the Ouya is a pretty sweet 'lil box for those who can appreciate its strength and forgive its weaknesses. So you have all the major home consoles and beefed up PCs? Well guess what? Not everyone has the luxury to spend cash like that on expensive electronic. I can totally foresee some Grandma out there buying this on a whim for little Johnny at a Target, or it being featured on a home shopping channel like QVC. Female family members like to watch the channel and I've noticed a lot of 'plug in and play' devices that come preloaded with crappy games sell like hot cakes on there. I wouldn't doubt the parents would love Ouya too.

Ouya looks like it could be great for any one of these reasons. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

 

[Luckkill4u]

Would you recommend buying a Nexus 7 right now? It's "old tech".

Having "old tech" doesn't mean as much from a developer's standpoint. The OUYA's specs are comparible to better than the Nexus 7 (Tegra 3 T30L vs Tegra 3 T33) but minus the screen. The Nexus 7 was very popular, especially among android developers. Games that run on the Nexus 7 should run on the OUYA.

Sure there are plenty of new and more powerful SoC's coming out. That doesn't mean game developers are going to limit support of new titles to only them. In order to be successful, a local game rep once told me that they had to make sure that their games ran on mobile devices that were 4 years old. You can bet that the Nexus 7 is on that screening path (and thus the OUYA).

(You'll likely be able to overclock the OUYA too, and you might even be able to achieve higher coretemps because you're not limited to the heat constraints or battery of a phone/tablet body. It will have a cooling fan, too, which is the one feature of the device that I am not pleased with. It will be the only hardware piece I mod.)

TL;DR

Old Android Tech != Bad

Maybe I wasn't so clear on what I meant. On a newer 2013 SoC your 3D graphics would be at least 2x better than expecially on that Kepler ULP. Like I'm talking Xbox 360 visuals and much faster processing. Remember this is a console built off technology built for mobile devices. The Tegra 3 SoC has 5 processors 1 Low power core for deep sleep which make batter drain very very very minimal and, 4 clocked at round 1.3-1.7 Ghz depending on the model (Tegra 3L, Tegra 3 and Tegra 3+). Now we don't know which one is in the Ouya and hopefully it is the T3+ at 7Ghz and the GPU at 600Mhz. The problem with the Tegra 3 is the GPU which is much slower than say a Mali-400 and Adreno-320 and less capabilities.

 

[GLiTcH]

Would get one only for emus n xbmc.

 

[LockeCole_101629]

that extra controller is quite expensive (there are lot's of android phones less than 60$)
and is there any multiplayer games for android?
also with only 8GB of space, I don't think it can hold lot's of games either since most HD games on android are 1GB+ in size.

idk, honestly I don't think we need special consoles for android games since most games are just casual games, and can be played on our hand.
I mean... android market is already saturated with so many device. How they going to survive if this isn't selling?
playing on your TV? I can't even... If I had time to spent my time in front of television, I'll be watching discovery channel all day (probably it also can be done with ouya)
again do you think you would spent time playing games with it rather than your PS3/Xbox/Wii/U... with a big screen TV?
for kids? yes... it might work.

in the end, you're just going to buy product and not using it.

 

[Janthran]

No time to check if Gahars already posted, so here we go
Reading OP made me say OH YEAH

I suck

 

[IBNobody]

Maybe I wasn't so clear on what I meant.

I'm sorry. I still don't understand your point. I thought your initial point was that the 2013 SoC's were going to trounce the 2012 SoC's, just like the 2012 SoC's trounced the 2011 SoC's. Am I wrong?

If that was the point you were trying to make, you are absolutely right! Yet you have people who buy a $600 tablet that get outdated every 6 months or so. Shouldn't they wait a few years until the mobile SoC market stabilizes like the PC market did?

I can buy an OUYA-like device for $99 every year for the next 5 years and still pay less.

Now we don't know which one is in the Ouya and hopefully it is the T3+ at 7Ghz and the GPU at 600Mhz. The problem with the Tegra 3 is the GPU which is much slower than say a Mali-400 and Adreno-320 and less capabilities.

(FYI: The dev kits shipped with the Tegra 3 T33, not the Tegra 3+ (which is the 28nm one, right?). In everything I've read, I didn't see that they were changing the PCA significantly between dev and retail. Here's a good article with rough impressions that confirmed the T33. It also highlighted that the OUYA's OS was tweaked more to be less multitasking intensive. It also placed the OUYA performance up around the Nexus 10 tablet.

Now, why is it a problem that the Tegra 3 is slower than either of those two GPU's?

 

[Hells Malice]

7 pages in 10 hours.
Damn. No way I'm reading all this.

Anyone who thinks this thing will fail has to be retarded. It's already a pretty decent success, considering the kickstarter alone drummed up 8.5mill, with its 950k goal.

It's a great idea, and that's exactly why I have it and two controllers coming my way. Even if it does flop, who the hell even cares. It cost me like $120. That's pennies honestly to try and support this project.

 

[IBNobody]

that extra controller is quite expensive (there are lot's of android phones less than 60$)
and is there any multiplayer games for android?

OUYA runs a customized version of Android and will have its own marketplace. They've said that they will have multi-player games. If the game doesn't require the touchpad, you can use a PS3 or X360 controller.

also with only 8GB of space, I don't think it can hold lot's of games either since most HD games on android are 1GB+ in size.

They say that you can expand it. When I get mine from being a Kickstarter backer, I'll write a mini review on the hardware and post it here.

playing on your TV? I can't even... If I had time to spent my time in front of television, I'll be watching discovery channel all day (probably it also can be done with ouya)
again do you think you would spent time playing games with it rather than your PS3/Xbox/Wii/U... with a big screen TV?
for kids? yes... it might work.

In the end, you're just going to buy product and not using it.

Buying a product and not using it.... Hmm... Sounds like my PS3 and my Wii. Talk about investments wasted.

Your statement pretty much nailed my usecase for the OUYA. I'll be using it as a media player and will let my kid play it. All games are free to try, and I'll be locking down any IAP's.

 

[KingVamp]

OUYA will have its own marketplace.

Foxi4 stated, at one point,that it would just be hack into, to enable it to play the games on other devices.

 

[IBNobody]

Foxi4 stated, at one point,that it would just be hack into, to enable it to play the games on other devices.

Maybe. It might be as easy as sideloading an apk and patching out the OUYA framework stuff. It might be more difficult, like it was with getting Kindle Fire apps to run correctly.

If it ends up being all F2P-IAP crap do you even want it?

 

[LightyKD]

Great article!

http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/49501/ouya-works-xbox-360-ps3-controllers-wirelessly

 

[Deleted-236924]

That's not handy, and makes your room fuggly as hell.
Oyua is a simple, elegant, yet cheap solution

My whole point was:
This is not a good solution.
If you have any better solution like a compact PC, ok, but that doesn't have to do with the case

The fun part was that the question at hand was "do you even have a PC in your living room?"

 

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[VMM]

My solution is called "MicroATX mainboard with twin PCI-E, 6 RAM memory slots and an LGA socket in it", as in my edited post. That can easily rival any high-end PC and remain relatively small in size.

Good for you, but that does not have to do with the case.
The only thing I said is, Ron's solution is not elegant.
This has nothing to do with small PCs with fancy coolers and stuff like that.
It's simply a question about aesthetics.

 

[Wombo Combo]

Wonder how easy it will be to root and install apks on it.

 

[FAST6191]

Good for you, but that does not have to do with the case.
The only thing I said is, Ron's solution is not elegant.
This has nothing to do with small PCs with fancy coolers and stuff like that.
It's simply a question about aesthetics.

I have always seen things like fashion as a logical paradox at best (outright con at worst and few confuse me for an optimist) but you are making so much progress on doing the same for aesthetics in general.

To that end I am going to have to invite you to elaborate upon what aesthetics are as it seems we are using different definitions.


Re: wires and mess. I could not find it and my history is not proving much help but a few months back on IRC someone linked up a nice image collection of the worst computer areas. Hopefully by mentioning it I can trigger the mind of someone with a bookmarks collection leaning more towards funny stuff.

 

[IBNobody]

I have always seen things like fashion as a logical paradox at best (outright con at worst and few confuse me for an optimist) but you are making so much progress on doing the same for aesthetics in general.

To that end I am going to have to invite you to elaborate upon what aesthetics are as it seems we are using different definitions.


Re: wires and mess. I could not find it and my history is not proving much help but a few months back on IRC someone linked up a nice image collection of the worst computer areas. Hopefully by mentioning it I can trigger the mind of someone with a bookmarks collection leaning more towards funny stuff.

This?

http://www.gameranx.com/features/id/7457/article/25-worst-gaming-setups


EDIT: See? And it proved the point about the OUYA's small form factor being a blessing.

You be hard pressed to fit a PS3 or a Wii anywhere on that desk.

 

[FAST6191]

This?

http://www.gameranx.com/features/id/7457/article/25-worst-gaming-setups

A few of those photos did feature in the list I am thinking of but those that did were by far the tamer ones. I reckon there were some 60 odd photos in the collection I am thinking of as well.

Edit- that did provide a nice starting point for a search though.
Another I recognise (and still one of the tamer ones) - http://i.imgur.com/ii7N9.jpg

 

[Valwin]

too bad nones going to buy it

 

[LockeCole_101629]

nvm-