OUYA will make its way to Retail Stores

[LightyKD]

The 8-GB of storage is a downer. I have a 8-GB tablet and I can cay that if it wasn't for "Directory Bind" and my 16-GB micro SD card, I would be one fussy gamer Hell, Wild Blood is 3 freaking gigs with Batman coming in close at over 2 gigs.

 

[chyyran]

Wow, why does everyone hate this console so much? Its 100 bucks for a powerful tablet without a screen, I think thats pretty damn reasonable, especially if you dont have any devices capable of doing that kind of stuff, not everyone can afford game consoles (or multiple ones), Im pretty sure some Fox'es we have around here tend to forget that.

While true that some people can't afford to buy consoles, the Ouya is not the most price efficient either. The GameStick is 30 bucks cheaper, and does about the same things. That's ignoring the fact that if you can't afford a game console, you probably can't afford a TV that accepts HDMI as well. The cheapest "decent" TV that accepts HDMI I could find is about $150 to $200. That's about the flea market price of a PS3 or XBOX. It also happens to be around the MSRP for a brand new Wii console. If I was in this situation, I'd save up a bit more to be able to nab that Wii. Most families in this situation do not have a shiny new LCD/LED. They have a good ol' CRT. The Ouya, does not have RCA output.

I didnt begin comparing it to a tablet, but since you guys think that all it does is tablet stuff, why not?

Android consoles? What Android consoles?

What if I dont want Wii games? What if I dont want to go through the trouble of hacking my Wii? The Wii homebrew community isnt even half as large or robust as Android developer community, so chances are im going to get better indie games (not to mention OnLive which pretty much gives me HD Console games which the Wii lacks) and the best part is it can do ALL of this right out of the box. If you assume everyone is buying a console for the same reasons then its pretty easy to say another console would be better.

Going back to your previous price argument, if one is poor, they probably do not have fast enough internet to achieve HD console gaming through OnLive. At best, it'll look like a 360p video of the game on YouTube, At worst, it'll be a slideshow. However, 360p doesn't look too bad on a CRT

And yes, it can do it ALL out of the box, but barely half as well as a PC.

 

[KingVamp]

The 8-GB of storage is a downer. I have a 8-GB tablet and I can cay that if it wasn't for "Directory Bind" and my 16-GB micro SD card, I would be one fussy gamer Hell, Wild Blood is 3 freaking gigs with Batman coming in close at over 2 gigs.

Does Ouya have a expansible and/or upgradable memory?

 

[Foxi4]

I feel like I'm the only person here who would toss $100 for this just for the hell of it.

I would also toss $100 for this just for the hell of it, but merely because I collect video game consoles - I don't need to make up contrived reasons as to why "this is useful" when the hardware I already have does the same things only better, and I'm willing to wager that most users on this forum do have such hardware as well.

It's neat for the sake of playing Android games on the big screen if you don't already have an Android device with a TV Out of some sort, find youself unwilling to get one for big bucks and want something cheap or simply for the Collector's Value.

 

[ShadowSoldier]

You must be absolutely fucking retarded if you can't fit a Xbox 360 or a PS3 in your living room efficiently. Even more so with the Wii and Wii U because those consoles are really small.

If your whole argument for the Ouya is "It's small so it can fit in your set up!" then you should stand back a second and realize just how few straws you're grasping at.

I think a better solution would be to stand back and just think on what the fuck you did with your life to end up with such a small room, and maybe stop gaming and get your ass in gear.

 

[Foxi4]

Ever have plans on getting married? I showed that picture to my wife, and she said she could never live in a house like that.
(Though if I were single, I can see your point.)

That looks very much like to how mine and my girlfriend's room looked like when I was staying over at hers during the holidays last year, except y'know, she's a gamer herself.

I too dislike total mess - nobody wants to see rats having a feast on left-over pizza in their room but honestly, as long as there is some order in the chaos, it's fine.

 

[The Milkman]

I want to agree with most of what you said but I still love my Wii *hugging Wii console* too much to put Ouya on THAT much of a pedestal. With that said, I'm stoked about the Ouya! OnLive is the big draw for me and there are some really good Android games that I would love to play on the big screen. I honestly do NOT like the controller. Yes the touch pad is OK for web browsing but I would have preferred a 3.5 inch HVGA screen. Hell, even a 2.5 inch QVGA would have been better (budget and controller size wise). I was hoping for some low end Wii U like interaction. Also the button coloring conflicts with OnLive. It's not that huge of a deal as long as I can use my 360 wired controller with the console. Furthermore I did have some correspondence with the Ouya crew and I do know that there are no limitations on what controller can be used as long as someone writes code for it so, I'm hoping that someone (can't be me right now, still working on my project) will make a motion heavy game soon.

Right now I still plan to do most of my gaming on my Wii and my HD style gaming on Ouya. Wii U has turned me off with all of the catering to the hardcore and dat price point. Hell, I'd like to see JXD make a Ouya companion app for their controller style tablets and maybe some interaction between the two devices.

Im not trying to downplay the wii, im just saying from the point Guildie is arguing, he makes it seem like the Ouya is pretty much useless if you hve a Wii, im saying hes wrong thats all.

 

[IBNobody]

While true that some people can't afford to buy consoles, the Ouya is not the most price efficient either. The GameStick is 30 bucks cheaper, and does about the same things. That's ignoring the fact that if you can't afford a game console, you probably can't afford a TV that accepts HDMI as well. The cheapest "decent" TV that accepts HDMI I could find is about $150 to $200. That's about the flea market price of a PS3 or XBOX. It also happens to be around the MSRP for a brand new Wii console. If I was in this situation, I'd save up a bit more to be able to nab that Wii. Most families in this situation do not have a shiny new LCD/LED. They have a good ol' CRT. The Ouya, does not have RCA output.

GameStick will sell for $79, plus $20 for the dock that adds USB and ethernet ports. The cost is a wash between it and the OUYA. The dock does add an SDCard slot, which the OUYA does not have. The SDCard slot is likely treated as a USB device (because the dock is essentially a USB hub + USB Ethernet NIC), so it would have the same effect as connecting a thumb-drive to the OUYA.

Also, you'd be surprised at how many people in the US can't "afford" to buy groceries but CAN afford to buy $3000 TV's. Is it that way for you up in Canada?

 

[chyyran]

Also, you'd be surprised at how many people in the US can't "afford" to buy groceries but CAN afford to buy $3000 TV's. Is it that way for you up in Canada?

I live in suburban Toronto, so I can't really answer that for you. Most people I know that can afford a nice TV can afford a Wii or a PS3.

 

[LightyKD]

Does Ouya have a expansible and/or upgradable memory?

On the site it states that you can expand the memory via USB

Im not trying to downplay the wii, im just saying from the point Guildie is arguing, he makes it seem like the Ouya is pretty much useless if you hve a Wii, im saying hes wrong thats all.

I feel ya! Just as with any other console, people will have to make their decision of whether the device suits their needs or not.

 

[IBNobody]

That looks very much like to how mine and my girlfriend's room looked like when I was staying over at hers during the holidays last year, except y'know, she's a gamer herself.

I too dislike total mess - nobody wants to see rats having a feast on left-over pizza in their room but honestly, as long as there is some order in the chaos, it's fine.

She sounds like a keeper. The less nagging you get about having cables and electronics all over the floor, the better!

 

[Foxi4]

She sounds like a keeper. The less nagging you get about having cables and electronics all over the floor, the better!

Oddly enough, at one point I was the one who had to nag.

Now, I'm no angel - my room is a mess like no other, but I needed to clean up a little bit around the Wii and the XBox 360 to fit my PS2 in there safetly.

 

[The Milkman]

While true that some people can't afford to buy consoles, the Ouya is not the most price efficient either. The GameStick is 30 bucks cheaper, and does about the same things. That's ignoring the fact that if you can't afford a game console, you probably can't afford a TV that accepts HDMI as well. The cheapest "decent" TV that accepts HDMI I could find is about $150 to $200. That's about the flea market price of a PS3 or XBOX. It also happens to be around the MSRP for a brand new Wii console. If I was in this situation, I'd save up a bit more to be able to nab that Wii. Most families in this situation do not have a shiny new LCD/LED. They have a good ol' CRT. The Ouya, does not have RCA output.



Going back to your previous price argument, if one is poor, they probably do not have fast enough internet to achieve HD console gaming through OnLive. At best, it'll look like a 360p video of the game on YouTube, At worst, it'll be a slideshow. However, 360p doesn't look too bad on a CRT

And yes, it can do it ALL out of the box, but barely half as well as a PC.

You're taking my point on pricing the wrong way, if you're a student or a grad then you're most likely not able to afford anything but food and your light and water. I'm speaking more on my level, if you're a 12-16 y.o. chances are your parents stopped buying you games and you're not old enough to get a job. That crowd would benefit from something like Ouya seeing how the average American household has a TV made within the last 6 or so years, an internet connection of at least 1 MB/PS. Things that chances are your parents are already paying for.

And not everyone is going to know what Gamestick is, of course if you look hard enough there's always something cheaper and better but people are lazy, you want proof look at how Apple made all its money.

also your point on PCs is correct, but I already stated my response to that.

 

[MelodieOctavia]

I would buy this just for the use of emulators, because that's just how I roll.

 

[chyyran]

You're taking my point on pricing the wrong way, if you're a student or a grad then you're most likely not able to afford anything but food and your light and water. I'm speaking more on my level, if you're a 12-16 y.o. chances are your parents stopped buying you games and you're not old enough to get a job. That crowd would benefit from something like Ouya seeing how the average American household has a TV made within the last 6 or so years, an internet connection of at least 1 MB/PS. Things that chances are your parents are already paying for.

And not everyone is going to know what Gamestick is, of course if you look hard enough there's always something cheaper and better but people are lazy, you want proof look at how Apple made all its money.

also your point on PCs is correct, but I already stated my response to that.

Tons of ways to make money in the 12-16 crowd if you really want to. Saving lunch money, paper route, mowing the lawn , or watering plants for neighbours, do chores for cash, allowance and if you're 14-16, you can probably get a real job at the mall or something if you work hard.

I said this before, if it were me, I'd save up that extra $50-100 for a real console. Then just pirate the shit out of it I can't afford to buy games. Some people don't know how to, true, but many people I know, myself included, for this very reason.

 

[Luckkill4u]

Well the Ouya looks as if it has really low specs. For a 2013 device running off a mobile SoC to play games in the living room seems too old for this generation. If I want to play a Tegra HD game I will just take my phone out of my pocket or if I want to play a Tegra HD game on my TV I can just plug in my tablet. It runs at 1.8 Ghz with an overclocked GPU at 650hz. Hell I'm sure that's better than Ouya's untampered specs so I expect the Ouya 2 to have a 28nm 2.0Ghz SoC with a kepler based GPU.

These SoC's are for 2013:

• NVIDIA T40 (4-5x Cortex-A15, 32-64? CUDA core Kepler ULP)
• Apple A6 (4x Cortex-A15, 4x PowerVR SGX54xMP4)
• Qualcomm MSM8974 (Quad-Core Krait 2-2.5GHz, Adreno 320 3D GPU)
• TI OMAP6 (4x Cortex-A15, Mali T600)
• Samsung Exynos (4x Cortex-A15, PowerVR)

If your going to buy a $99 Ouya it's going to be old technology. Quad core mobile devices have been out for a year now and the Samsung is already making a eight-core Galaxy S 4. HTC Has already released 3 quadcore devices while Samsung and LG has released 2. Apple has there dual-core ultra fast iPhone 5 which is about as good as a Tegra 3.

 

[LightyKD]

Well the Ouya looks as if it has really low specs. For a 2013 device running off a mobile SoC to play games in the living room seems too old for this generation. If I want to play a Tegra HD game I will just take my phone out of my pocket or if I want to play a Tegra HD game on my TV I can just plug in my tablet. It runs at 1.8 Ghz with an overclocked GPU at 650hz. Hell I'm sure that's better than Ouya's untampered specs so I expect the Ouya 2 to have a 28nm 2.0Ghz SoC with a kepler based GPU.

These SoC's are for 2013:

• NVIDIA T40 (4-5x Cortex-A15, 32-64? CUDA core Kepler ULP)
• Apple A6 (4x Cortex-A15, 4x PowerVR SGX54xMP4)
• Qualcomm MSM8974 (Quad-Core Krait 2-2.5GHz, Adreno 320 3D GPU)
• TI OMAP6 (4x Cortex-A15, Mali T600)
• Samsung Exynos (4x Cortex-A15, PowerVR)

If your going to buy a $99 Ouya it's going to be old technology. Quad core mobile devices have been out for a year now and the Samsung is already making a eight-core Galaxy S 4. HTC Has already released 3 quadcore devices while Samsung and LG has released 2. Apple has there dual-core ultra fast iPhone 5 which is about as good as a Tegra 3.

I hope there's NO Ouya 2 until 4 years from now. If they want the device to be treated like a console then it needs to be on the shelf for longer than two years. I also hope that someone creates a dock that the Ouya can stand on top of with a Micro SD slot and at minimum 2 USB ports

 

[KingVamp]

If it does well and last that long then we'll see that there is a market for ~$99 consoles.
If there is a Ouya 2, they can price it around the same with better tech and a better release timing.

 

[IBNobody]

Well the Ouya looks as if it has really low specs. For a 2013 device running off a mobile SoC to play games in the living room seems too old for this generation. If I want to play a Tegra HD game I will just take my phone out of my pocket or if I want to play a Tegra HD game on my TV I can just plug in my tablet. It runs at 1.8 Ghz with an overclocked GPU at 650hz. Hell I'm sure that's better than Ouya's untampered specs so I expect the Ouya 2 to have a 28nm 2.0Ghz SoC with a kepler based GPU.

These SoC's are for 2013:

• NVIDIA T40 (4-5x Cortex-A15, 32-64? CUDA core Kepler ULP)
• Apple A6 (4x Cortex-A15, 4x PowerVR SGX54xMP4)
• Qualcomm MSM8974 (Quad-Core Krait 2-2.5GHz, Adreno 320 3D GPU)
• TI OMAP6 (4x Cortex-A15, Mali T600)
• Samsung Exynos (4x Cortex-A15, PowerVR)

If your going to buy a $99 Ouya it's going to be old technology. Quad core mobile devices have been out for a year now and the Samsung is already making a eight-core Galaxy S 4. HTC Has already released 3 quadcore devices while Samsung and LG has released 2. Apple has there dual-core ultra fast iPhone 5 which is about as good as a Tegra 3.

Would you recommend buying a Nexus 7 right now? It's "old tech".

Having "old tech" doesn't mean as much from a developer's standpoint. The OUYA's specs are comparible to better than the Nexus 7 (Tegra 3 T30L vs Tegra 3 T33) but minus the screen. The Nexus 7 was very popular, especially among android developers. Games that run on the Nexus 7 should run on the OUYA.

Sure there are plenty of new and more powerful SoC's coming out. That doesn't mean game developers are going to limit support of new titles to only them. In order to be successful, a local game rep once told me that they had to make sure that their games ran on mobile devices that were 4 years old. You can bet that the Nexus 7 is on that screening path (and thus the OUYA).

(You'll likely be able to overclock the OUYA too, and you might even be able to achieve higher coretemps because you're not limited to the heat constraints or battery of a phone/tablet body. It will have a cooling fan, too, which is the one feature of the device that I am not pleased with. It will be the only hardware piece I mod.)

TL;DR

Old Android Tech != Bad

 

[Bladexdsl]

I have 0% interest in this after being greatly disappointed with the crap pay to play/keep playing shitty android games and sold my tablet. I couldn't care less if this comes out here or not.