Direct X 11.1 is Windows 8 exclusive, no plans to retrofit

[Foxi4]

Well this quickly turned into another argument, but that was inevitable.

Where is the argument? All I see is a heated discussion.

 

[YayMii]

I was referring to the Metro apps which Microsoft are pushing as the new wave of apps and wanting to fade old traditional desktop ones. The workflow differences are due to the differences between this and desktop. If I want to have 2 Word Documents open at the same time for reference this is limited by a Metro app. If I want to run a program in a small window in the corner while another take up most of the space I can't do this in Metro.

They're not phasing out traditional desktop apps. In fact, Office 2013 (the non-RT version) consists of traditional desktop apps (although OneNote comes in both flavors).

 

[Rockhoundhigh]

Maybe if 7 was as bad as Vista... even then that's pushing it.

 

[RchUncleSkeleton]

People do enjoy complaining about a missing start menu, but the missing features of say, iOS, is just fine. I don't see why upgrading to the new Windows 8 is a problem for most since the upgrade was basically free (15€?).

ps. What start menu? OS X doesn't have a start menu and I've actually never missed it. The new metro UI is a lot smarter imho for opening programs and such. It's still possible to open the desktop interface on Win8 so it's pretty moot.

pps. Running Windows 7 via Bootcamp and WinXP via Parallels :3

Sorry, did you forget to add the part where IOS is a separate OS from OSX? I guess so...
Windows 8 was created to be the successor to Windows 7, IOS is a separate entity from OSX...it was created specifically for touchscreen devices. I can't remember the last time I saw someone running IOS on their iMac or MacBook.

 

[zygie]

Where is the argument? All I see is a heated discussion.

Perhaps, but then it's always fun to see "heated discussions." Brings out the passions, y'know. Hot passions.

 

[Arras]

Sorry, did you forget to add the part where IOS is a separate OS from OSX? I guess so...
Windows 8 was created to be the successor to Windows 7, IOS is a separate entity from OSX...it was created specifically for touchscreen devices. I can't remember the last time I saw someone running IOS on their iMac or MacBook.

They are actually pretty similar and IIRC Apple is trying to combine them even more like how Win8 is trying to combine tablets and desktops.

 

[pwsincd]

opened up kids xmas pressie to check out win8, first thing I noticed, no start bar, I'll cope, just a learning curve or 3rd party app. What I did notice was how I couldn't easily see what apps I had open and minimised.. or did I miss something?

 

[Foxi4]

opened up kids xmas pressie to check out win8, first thing I noticed, no start bar, I'll cope, just a learning curve or 3rd party app. What I did notice was how I couldn't easily see what apps I had open and minimised.. or did I miss something?

Widows Key + Tab gives you a 3D overview (as in 7), hidden sidebar on the left has live thumbnails of all your windows.

 

[pwsincd]

ok, I noticed top left corner showed them one at a time, but didn't see a full sidebar, I'll have another look next chance I can get it out without him present. cheers.

 

[Maverick Lunar X]

Honestly, most of the hatred I've seen surrounding Windows 8 has been due to confusion about compatibility, because of the RT version. Most people just assume 8 and RT are the same thing, and that everyone will have to abandon their old applications.

 

[Qtis]

Sorry, did you forget to add the part where IOS is a separate OS from OSX? I guess so...
Windows 8 was created to be the successor to Windows 7, IOS is a separate entity from OSX...it was created specifically for touchscreen devices. I can't remember the last time I saw someone running IOS on their iMac or MacBook.

What I meant with missing features in iOS are indeed missing features in iOS. With new versions on old phones. Missing features (Siri on pre-iPhone 4 for example). The point was more about the complaining about MS features missing/changed compared to Apple's features missing/changed.

Also have you used the latest OS X versions? 10.7 and 10.8 vs 10.6 and before? OS X is indeed separate from iOS, but OS X is becoming iOS or at least taking features from it little by little and becoming more and more like the mobile products made by Apple (unified user experience for one). Most new features in 10.7 vs 10.6 were iOSish features. I'd presume one day we'll see OS X and iOS merged in one way or another with the 11" MBA and the iPad working as a computer + dock like the Asus Transformer tablets.


ps. iOS is a mobile version from OS X with the same foundation à la Darwin/Unix. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darwin_(operating_system)

Edit: Not meaning to sound like an ass, just pointed it out. I've used Macs side by side Windows machines from 95 or something :3

 

[Foxi4]

ok, I noticed top left corner showed them one at a time, but didn't see a full sidebar, I'll have another look next chance I can get it out without him present. cheers.

http://i.imgur.com/e6YtB.png

Lower-left should work fine, as in the picture.

 

[pwsincd]

, one small step for man

 

[Jamstruth]

ok, I noticed top left corner showed them one at a time, but didn't see a full sidebar, I'll have another look next chance I can get it out without him present. cheers.

Top left and drag down the side or bottom left and drag up. Either brings up the Metro Multitask menu.

 

[DiscostewSM]

After months of having Win 8 available to install (via MSAA), I installed it yesterday. Needless to say, when I first began working with it, I was irritated by no Start Menu, as I did a lot of stuff through it. I tried different 3rd-party equivalents, but they either did not have enough functionality, or they looked bad. Plus, they weren't exactly stable. After a couple of hours, I threw my hands up and removed everything that tried to give me a Win 7 feel, and I attempted to learn how to use Windows 8.

Now, it really isn't so bad. I can do many of the things I could do in Win 7, I just have to do them in a slightly different manner. For one thing, I now use the Windows key on my keyboard, because before, I'd always click the Start button to do such interaction. I do miss the Aero-Glass look of the windows, but that is something I'll have to get by without.

 

[Arras]

After months of having Win 8 available to install (via MSAA), I installed it yesterday. Needless to say, when I first began working with it, I was irritated by no Start Menu, as I did a lot of stuff through it. I tried different 3rd-party equivalents, but they either did not have enough functionality, or they looked bad. Plus, they weren't exactly stable. After a couple of hours, I threw my hands up and removed everything that tried to give me a Win 7 feel, and I attempted to learn how to use Windows 8.

Now, it really isn't so bad. I can do many of the things I could do in Win 7, I just have to do them in a slightly different manner. For one thing, I now use the Windows key on my keyboard, because before, I'd always click the Start button to do such interaction. I do miss the Aero-Glass look of the windows, but that is something I'll have to get by without.

You can still click the bottom left corner to get to the Start Menu if you really want, you know. You can also right click it for some more advanced options.

 

[LockeCole_101629]

as long I can play my online games (which not even using dx 10.1.2.3/11.1.2.3a.b.c.d.e.f.g

I'll stick to my old xp
sure it can be done within hours, considering there's always a piratebay.

this old marketing gimmick is getting old, they should change their strategy
considering there are millions people still using XP/Vista and didn't bother anything about their OS

once you turn on your computer , your first move is to click your internet browser.

 

[Deleted_171835]

Fucking Microsoft. This is Vista all over again.

 

[Gh0sti]

another reason to upgrade to windows 8 you can install .isos without another program, just run an .iso file and installs without daemon tools

 

[RodrigoDavy]

Ubuntu is the Linux for the masses - it's actually quite nasty considering other choices and has inheritent design flaws as well as a myriad of issues.

You're probably right. Already accepted the fact that it has it flaws, but after 4 years using it I just can't switch back to Windows. I mean, the amount of trouble you have setting up a Windows computer and dealing with the occasional problems are at least the same you do with linux imo.

EDIT: People just don't notice it because they are used to dealing with windows related problems but not linux's.