Wiikey U preorders will open soon!

[mathieulh]

I'm really keen to know how they plan to attain the drive key which is needed to emulate the drive.

The key is unique per console and saved within the OTP of the Wii U.

I am guessing they use an hardware/software exploit to dump the key. Fail0verflow already told us how to dump the OTP area, not to mention the drive itself could have a vulnerability of its own.

 

[VLinh]

Is it safe to assume that online capabilities will not be possible due to the Nintendo Network ID system where each game has a unique ID and if multiple copies are detected online then GG?

 

[mathieulh]

Is it safe to assume that online capabilities will not be possible due to the Nintendo Network ID system where each game has a unique ID and if multiple copies are detected online then GG?

That's only true for catridge games on the 3DS, the Wii U games are pressed on bluray discs, having each and every disc to use a unique per disc ID would be way too expensive and unpractical to manufacture.
Each game however has its own key/id per game (and not per disc).

 

[VLinh]

That's only true for catridge games on the 3DS, the Wii U games are pressed on bluray discs, having each and every disc to use a unique per disc ID would be way too expensive and unpractical to manufacture.
Each game however has its own key/id per game (and not per disc).

So it would still be able to get detected nonetheless?

 

[Mr. Waffle]

Is it safe to assume that online capabilities will not be possible due to the Nintendo Network ID system where each game has a unique ID and if multiple copies are detected online then GG?

Originally, PS3 scene releases always excluded some data that was crucial to fully emulate an original disc (read: play online). Team k3y was the first to include this data, and thus created so called IRD files. I don't have a PS3 but I believe these have become a standard now.
With this in mind, I'd say it's safe to say that Team K3y will do everything they can to emulate an original disc as closely as possible.

On the other hand, with the whole 3k3y drama and the developer suddenly disappearing...

Also for the people discussing if this can be detected: Of all the devices they developed, only the 3k3y was ever detected. (for all we know)

 

[Bladexdsl]

not sure about the online but i do know if they ban your account this time there's no getting a new one again unlike with the wii. better to be safe than sorry and only pirate single player games

 

[magypsy3]

Hey guys! I contacted Ozmodchips about the pre-order and look what they sayd!

Ticket #407599
Ticket Status: Closed
Department: Support
Create Date: 21/05/2014 10:40 pm
Name: dekuleon
Email:
Phone:

Subject:WiiKeyU pre-order


Ticket Thread
21/05/2014 10:40 pm
Hello! Can you say when WiiKeyU pre-orders will begin? I'm very excited for this and I will buy more than one.
I bought many times with you from a different account. I bought 3 Wode and other things.
I hope to hear from you soon!
Thanks!
21/05/2014 11:16 pm Admin
Hi there
not sure when, the project still seems to be in its early stages. so the preorder will kind of be like a kickstarter project when it starts....

We will list it on the website when more things are confirmed, but for now there is still not price, terms, and eta!
22/05/2014 12:17 am
Hello!
Haven't you guys read the news?
http://wiikey.com/news/
2014-05-18: We will start taking Wiikey U preorders in the next week!
A lot has happened recently and we are now confident to launch Wiikey U! You can look forward to other exciting WiiU news in the coming weeks...

It is legit! The first dumps (game copyes) are appearing on Usenet and Torrent Trackers, from respected warez scene members.

Maybe next week you will know about it!

What your boss says?

Thanks again!
22/05/2014 1:00 am Admin
Yes, yes of course we know the news
we know the wiikey guys, and the devs
what they post to the public, and what is really happening are 2 different things.
22/05/2014 1:03 am
So what is happening then?? Do you have a hint?
22/05/2014 1:27 am Admin
when its ready to be sold, it will be sold
until then, we have nothing to tell customers

Whatttaaa?

 

[Starlored]

Hey guys! I contacted Ozmodchips about the pre-order and look what they sayd!




Whatttaaa?

Sounds if they get enough pre orders it will be put into production. The problem as I see it is the WiiU isn't as popular a console as Xbox or Ps3 .

 

[Pedeadstrian]

I never said that piracy is the ONLY factor for a consoles death, in case of the Wii U, that already has more than enough problems, it really could be the final nail in the coffin.



1-3 % ? ... in these days?! This is what i say to your 1-3%: Conversely, there's no substantiated evidence that only 1-3% of the users are pirates.

1-3 % ... from what RELIABLE source are these values? If you type a consoles name into google.com, the first or second suggestions from google are the console name + "hack", "custom firmware", "homebrew" or "emulator".

Depending from the system i would say: 20-30%.

You ask for a reliable source then just pull 20-30% out of your ass?

 

[Bonny]

You ask for a reliable source then just pull 20-30% out of your ass?

Yep. And I'am not the one who started pull "%'s" out of anyones ass. And in view of my Google argument, 20-30% are MUCH MORE realistic then 1-3%.

 

[Pedeadstrian]

Yep. And I'am not the one who started pull "%'s" out of anyones ass. And in view of my Google argument, 20-30% are MUCH MORE realistic then 1-3%.

Of course you view 20-30% being more realistic, because you came up with it. I seriously doubt that 20-30% of people pirate games. While 1% seems low, 20-30% seems way too high.

 

[ddrrmm]

LOL @ THE 20-30% piracy number, really delusional.
60% of people pirate music..it really was the nail in the coffin for the music industry...lol don't make us laugh.
Same goes for movies...the 2 most pirated media..and moviestars and singers are raking in millions of dollars a year..

21/05/2014 11:16 pm Admin
Hi there
not sure when, the project still seems to be in its early stages. so the preorder will kind of be like a kickstarter project when it starts....

hmm a little worrisome, lets hope they keyteam will be honest about the developments and eta's..as we know they haven't always done that in the past.

 

[stomp_442]

I thought that TT said that some 300,000 unique IP address have the hbc installed. For a good laugh, lets say that there are another 200,000 Wii's that have the hbc installed that TT don't know about. And then there is modchips, but I doubt that number is anywhere near hbc installs. Nintendo claims that the Wii sold 100,000+ million, and if half a million of them are hacked, that is just 0.5% of all Wii's have been hacked. How is 20-30% of wii owners going to be pirating? XBOX 360 and PS3 probably have even less of their consoles hacked so I doubt even 1% of all console owners of the last generation are pirates.

 

[VashTS]

I thought that TT said that some 300,000 unique IP address have the hbc installed. For a good laugh, lets say that there are another 200,000 Wii's that have the hbc installed that TT don't know about. And then there is modchips, but I doubt that number is anywhere near hbc installs. Nintendo claims that the Wii sold 100,000+ million, and if half a million of them are hacked, that is just 0.5% of all Wii's have been hacked. How is 20-30% of wii owners going to be pirating? XBOX 360 and PS3 probably have even less of their consoles hacked so I doubt even 1% of all console owners of the last generation are pirates.

even if a million installs were done, that is 1% that use the HBC - that by itself does not enable piracy! I know there are some users on here that buy games and rip them for ease of use and to maintain the disc/artwork.

oh and don't get me started on PS3 / Xbox 360 hacks. The common person wouldn't even want to learn that much. It's not just hack and play, its maintenance as well. The only viable solution for everyday users (which still is an issue with my young cousins) is the ODE. They for some reason always mess their Xkey up and IDK why however they represent typical users.

 

[Bladexdsl]

pirating kills systems huh? the pc is pirated up every hole yet it still remains the most dominant force in the universe! and no way in hell is pc gaming dying because of piracy it just keeps getting better and better and keeps evolving leaving consoles in it's wake!! if pirating was going to kill the pc it would have done it years ago we've been pirating it since DOS!!!

 

[kublai]

pirating kills systems huh? the pc is pirated up every hole yet it still remains the most dominant force in the universe! and no way in hell is pc gaming dying because of piracy it just keeps getting better and better and keeps evolving leaving consoles in it's wake!! if pirating was going to kill the pc it would have done it years ago we've been pirating it since DOS!!!

Wow DOS, It's been that long?

 

[Rizzorules]

Everytime i see a console is hacked/pirated i read a lot of replies of people saying they will buy a console, i wonder if wiikey u can be patched with an update and if we will be able to dump our own games

 

[Bladexdsl]

Wow DOS, It's been that long?

yep doom pretty much kicked it into next gear

 

[Bonny]

LOL @ THE 20-30% piracy number, really delusional.
60% of people pirate music..it really was the nail in the coffin for the music industry...lol don't make us laugh.
Same goes for movies...the 2 most pirated media..and moviestars and singers are raking in millions of dollars a year..

Incompetent bullshit.

The "creation process" of music, a song, an album is sooooooooooo much cheaper/shorter than developing an Videogame. So even if 60% of people pirate, it's still affordable for the music industry.
Movies, also like music, get consumed by much more people than Wii U videogames. So there is also a MUCH MORE money to make.

So, your statements are completely incompetent.

While 1% seems low, 20-30% seems way too high.

If 20-30% is unrealistic, then why is google adding the words "hack", "cwf", "emulator", "download" etc. to search terms like "Wii U" or "Wii U games"? Would google do this if only 1-3% of users were searching for these things?

 

[Arras]

Incompetent bullshit.

The "creation process" of music, a song, an album is sooooooooooo much cheaper/shorter than developing an Videogame. So even if 60% of people pirate, it's still affordable for the music industry.
Movies, also like music, get consumed by much more people than Wii U videogames. So there is also a MUCH MORE money to make.

So, your statements are completely incompetent.



If 20-30% is unrealistic, then why is google adding the words "hack", "cwf", "emulator", "download" etc. to search terms like "Wii U" or "Wii U games"? Would google do this if only 1-3% of users were searching for these things?

Fun fact: Google bases its results and suggestions on your previous search history. If you searched for a lot of torrents and pirated content and Google knows this, of course it will come up with suggestions like those. Just look at that piracy