What's the most ideal IOS configuration?

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Dec 2, 2010
  1. wootwo
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    Hey all, wanted to firstly apologize if this is a constantly reoccurring topic since it seems like it would be, but I searched with what I could think of ('ios configuration', could be worded a handful of other ways), checked the last five pages and multiple Black Ops topics in regards to new compatible IOS setups and didn't find anything. *breath* So with that said, I was interested in hearing what was considered the best or most ideal layout of IOSes currently, with Black Ops being included for compatibility. I know nothing about SNEEK and Triiforce or how safe they are so I'm not sure if that's worth including, but I've seen that they usually require a certain cIOS revision.

    When I softmodded my wii, I used GAF's homebrew tutorial and what that currently leaves you with is:

    I considered GAF's tutorial to be the safest of everything I've seen since Dr. Clipper's really upfront about what the risks are and explains in detail what's being performed and I've seen in a recent discussion topic on the tutorial he's eventually planning a new configuration, but in the meantime, what do you all think? Thanks in advance.
     


  2. PPSainity

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    Most find that with recent games like CoD: Black Ops, that installing cIOSx 249 rev20b with an IOS57 base is the best choice currently. There is also a movement to stay with older revisions of Waninkoko's cIOS, like rev17, but I have had no issues with rev20b.

    -[]D
     
  3. chop

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    These are my custom IOS
    202[57], For homebrew
    222[38] & 223[37] 224[57] [Hermes v5],
    249[56] & 250[37] [Waninkoko v20]

    Some people are now recommending 250[57] for COD:BO rather than the 224[57] that I have here.
     
  4. xfcrowman

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    Here is my setup:

    Hermes 5.1 - for using uloader NAND emulation and for conventional game playing
    222 [38]
    223 [37]
    224 [57] - for COD black ops (works just as well as Wanin's cIOSx rev 20 [57])

    Waninkoko
    249 [56] rev20 - for (almost) everything
    250 [38] rev17 - for triiforce

    The cIOS you have installed should depend on the apps you use. For example, if you don't care about NAND emulation (either from triiforce or uloader), then installing Wanin's cIOSx rev 20 [56] and [57] would probably be sufficient.

    In my case, I do not have cIOS202 installed because I have never needed it.
     
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    Now that HBC runs off IOS58 is 202 still needed?
     
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    Member xfcrowman GBAtemp Fan

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    I don't think IOS202 is needed anymore, but someone correct me if I'm wrong.

    All the Tantric emulators (fceugx, vbagx etc) wiimc, and wiixplorer use IOS58 with AHB_PROT instead of IOS202.

    I know that the last official build of wii64 (beta 1.1) came out a long time ago so it doesn't use IOS58 with AHB_PROT. Someone did modify the source so that you could run wii64 using IOS202 and get improved speeds, so wii64 is the only thing I can think of that still uses IOS202.

    I recently made a small modification to the wii64 MOD so that wii64 will run using IOS224 instead of IOS202, thus eliminating any need for IOS202.

    If anyone can think of any apps other than the wii64 MOD that use IOS202, please let me know as well.
     
  7. PPSainity

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    MPlayer_CE still uses cIOS202, and many people still use that as a fallback for WiiMC on those Twilight Zone days.
    WiiXplorer can run using AHBPROT and IOS58 for full system access and official USB2 code, but cIOS202 still offer better FTP performance and broader USB2 compatibility.

    Heck, I still have DVDx installed for FTPii, but I'm weird like that.

    -[]D
     
  8. Hielkenator

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    No your not, you are absolutely correct. also thought you needed an special version ( older ) of 202 to use the FTP server in Wiixplorer?
     
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    wiixplorer's ftp works with ios58 which I am using version 207 right now. I have not used 202 in a while
     
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    Cool, So I can read and write to my Wii's sd card using FTP server in Wiixplorer?
    Using ios 58?

    Previously I could'nt connect.
     
  11. Gassy

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    xfcrowman,
    How did you install into the 250 slot? I thought later cios versions supported slots, not 17.
    Does Triiforce look at slot 250, or did you have to modify the source?

    I'm asking this stuff because I've been considering going back to 17 so I can Triiforce again, but if I can get it to run off 17 in slot 250, that would solve that problem nicely.

    Thanks,
    Gassy
     
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    I used blue dump to pack cIOS38 rev 17 into a wad, and then I used showmiiwads 1.4 to change the IOS slot for cIOS38 rev 17 from 249 to 250.

    Next, I modified the source code of triiforce mrc so that it would use IOS250 instead of IOS249.

    For me, this setup is ideal because I get the benefits of Wanin's latest cIOS (better speed, compatibility) in slot 249, and then I get triiforce on slot 250.

    If you want the modified .dol, let me know and I can upload it to Mediafire, along with the modified source.
     
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    You could keep rev 17 in 249. And just change the way the Backuploaders load the games.
    What you are doing is not neccisary at all Imho.
    PS : In the past Waninkoko's installers copied the exact Cios in the 250 slot. In case of emergency.
    I think rev 17 does this also. With the CIOSX rev 20 installers you could just reinstall slot 249 with what you like. And keep the content of slot 250.
     
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    True, you could just install rev 17 first and then use the cIOSX rev 20 installer to reinstall slot 249.

    In my case, I like having rev 20 in slot 249 and rev 17 in slot 250, because I have used 249 to play games since the days of gamma loader 0.3.
    Ultimately, it really doesn't matter what slot these cIOS are installed in - the only thing that does matter to me is that one can be used for triiforce and the other can be used for games.

    If Wanin releases cIOSx rev21 and Triiforce works, then I will no longer have any need for the rev 17 cIOS.
     
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    For me this is what I use. About 50 games or so (all the good ones) work flawlessly.

    rev 20 249 base 57 (everything works with this except monster hunter and COD:BO
    223 v4 37 and 38 merged (monster hunter)
    224 v5 base 57 (COD works with this and not 249 for me)
     
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    Not saying FTP does not work with when using AHBPROT and IOS58, just not as well as with cIOS202. Though with each new update it is getting better, the most noticeable change was my USB2 HDD speeds with r200. As of now, I still find Wiixplorer to have better FTP and USB2 performance with cIOS202. I do like the way dimok is able to use AHBPROT to patch any IOS in use, and not just IOS58 now. I don't know exactly how he does it and to what extent yet, but it would be nice to benefit from the USB2 code in IOS202 and the complete system access from AHBPROT, best of both worlds.

    Steering back on to the OPs topic, at least in the next lane. I do look forward to the day that with AHBPROT, apps can take any IOS as a base, and patch their own additions on the fly. This way we do not have to maintain any cIOS, and we can leave the official IOS alone. We would still be at the mercy of the integrity of the patched code that was patched on the fly to not go berserk, but the rub's gotta lie somewhere.

    -[]D
     
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    ideal set up for me:

    202 - wiimc installer base 60 (i believe?)
    222 - hermes v4/5 base 38
    223 - hermes v4/5 base 37
    224 - hermes v5 base 57
    248 - waninkoko rev20 base 57
    249 - waninkoko rev17
    250 - waninkoko rev20 base 37

    i might install 247 using waninkoko rev20 base 56, but i don't think i need it. this setup works great for everything. 17 is there for nand emulation, rev20 base 37 for music games, hermes for compatibility.
     
  19. PPSainity

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    Ummm, no, that is totally wrong. USB2 support for the Wii began with cIOS202 albeit unofficially as it was from the homebrew community, and not directly from Nintendo. IOS58 is the first IOS to contain official USB2 code from Nintendo. IOS58 is recommended over cIOS202 by some people who believe using official code is always better than cIOS. Sadly, although IOS58 contains official code, the USB2 module in cIOS202 is compatible with more USB HDDs and for now also provides better performance; the latter might change as code gets optimized, but I doubt by much and the former is totally at the mercy of Nintendo which only cares for its licensed devices..

    -[]D

    EDIT: Here's my setup too:
    Warning: Spoilers inside!
     
  20. mauifrog

    Member mauifrog DA KINE WiiHacker

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    Here is my setup
    sysCheck v1.6.1 by Erik Spyder

    Region: NTSC-U
    The system menu v385 is running under IOS58 (rev 6176) I usually have 4.1 patched to v54321, but this is just test.
    Hollywood v0x11
    Boot2 v4
    Found 66 titles
    Found 39 IOS on this console
    Found 2 IOS Stubs on this console

    IOS (revision),IOS Stub,Trucha Bug,ES Identify,Flash Access,NAND Access,Boot2 Access,USB 2.0
    IOS9 (rev 54321),No,Enabled,Disabled,Disabled,Disabled,Disabled,Disabled ios60-v6174 with dip
    IOS11 (rev 54321),No,Enabled,Disabled,Disabled,Disabled,Disabled,Disabled ios60-v6174 with dip
    IOS13 (rev 273),No,Disabled,Disabled,Disabled,Disabled,Disabled,Disabled
    IOS14 (rev 520),No,Disabled,Disabled,Disabled,Disabled,Disabled,Disabled
    IOS15 (rev 523),No,Disabled,Disabled,Disabled,Disabled,Disabled,Disabled
    IOS16 (rev 54321),No,Enabled,Enabled,Enabled,Enabled,Disabled,Disabled ios16-v257
    IOS17 (rev 775),No,Disabled,Disabled,Disabled,Disabled,Disabled,Disabled
    IOS20 (rev 54321),No,Enabled,Disabled,Disabled,Disabled,Disabled,Disabled ios60-v6174 with dip
    IOS21 (rev 782),No,Disabled,Disabled,Disabled,Disabled,Disabled,Disabled
    IOS22 (rev 1037),No,Disabled,Disabled,Disabled,Disabled,Disabled,Disabled
    IOS28 (rev 1550),No,Disabled,Disabled,Disabled,Disabled,Disabled,Disabled
    IOS30 (rev 54321),No,Enabled,Disabled,Disabled,Disabled,Disabled,Disabled
    IOS31 (rev 3349),No,Disabled,Disabled,Disabled,Disabled,Disabled,Disabled ios60-v6174 with dip
    IOS33 (rev 3091),No,Disabled,Disabled,Disabled,Disabled,Disabled,Disabled
    IOS34 (rev 3348),No,Disabled,Disabled,Disabled,Disabled,Disabled,Disabled
    IOS35 (rev 3349),No,Disabled,Disabled,Disabled,Disabled,Disabled,Disabled
    IOS36 (rev 54321),No,Enabled,Enabled,Disabled,Enabled,Disabled,Disabled
    IOS37 (rev 3869),No,Disabled,Disabled,Disabled,Disabled,Disabled,Disabled
    IOS38 (rev 3867),No,Disabled,Disabled,Disabled,Disabled,Disabled,Disabled
    IOS50 (rev 54321),No,Enabled,Disabled,Disabled,Disabled,Disabled,Disabled ios50 with dip
    IOS53 (rev 5120),Yes,?,?,?,?,?,? this is just a stupid test
    IOS55 (rev 5406),No,Disabled,Disabled,Disabled,Disabled,Disabled,Disabled
    IOS56 (rev 5405),No,Disabled,Disabled,Disabled,Disabled,Disabled,Disabled
    IOS57 (rev 5661),No,Disabled,Disabled,Disabled,Disabled,Disabled,Disabled
    IOS58 (rev 6176),No,Disabled,Disabled,Disabled,Disabled,Disabled,Disabled
    IOS60 (rev 54321),No,Enabled,Disabled,Disabled,Disabled,Disabled,Disabled ios60-v6174 with dip
    IOS61 (rev 5662),No,Disabled,Disabled,Disabled,Disabled,Disabled,Disabled
    IOS70 (rev 54321),No,Enabled,Disabled,Disabled,Disabled,Disabled,Disabled ios60-v6174 with dip
    IOS80 (rev 54321),No,Enabled,Disabled,Disabled,Disabled,Disabled,Disabled ios60-v6174 with dip
    IOS90 (rev 54321),No,Enabled,Disabled,Disabled,Disabled,Disabled,Disabled ios60-v6174 with dip
    IOS202 (rev 65535),No,Enabled,Disabled,Disabled,Enabled,Disabled,Enabled v5.1 base60
    IOS222 (rev 4),No,Enabled,Enabled,Disabled,Enabled,Disabled,Enabled v4 base38
    IOS223 (rev 4),No,Enabled,Enabled,Disabled,Enabled,Disabled,Enabled v4 base 37/38
    IOS224 (rev 65535),No,Enabled,Disabled,Disabled,Enabled,Disabled,Enabled v5.1 base57
    IOS236 (rev 54321),No,Enabled,Enabled,Disabled,Enabled,Disabled,Disabled patched ios36
    IOS247 (rev 65535),No,Enabled,Disabled,Disabled,Enabled,Disabled,Enabled -r20 base 37
    IOS248 (rev 65535),No,Enabled,Disabled,Disabled,Enabled,Disabled,Enabled -r20 base56
    IOS249 (rev 17),No,Enabled,Enabled,Disabled,Enabled,Disabled,Enabled -r17 base38
    IOS250 (rev 65535),No,Enabled,Disabled,Disabled,Enabled,Disabled,Enabled -r20 base50
    IOS254 (rev 65281),Yes,?,?,?,?,?,? bootmii ios
     

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