Hacking USB LOADER COVER IMAGES

[Knocks]

Those covers are fake! There is no Guitar Hero 1, 2, or Encore for Wii.

lol not to mention Guitar Hero: Rock Band. That's like Coke: The Pepsi Edition.

 

[nindim]

What's the point of adding the 5th and 6th letters anyway? Those letters just signifiy disc pressings. If the first 4 letters are the same, the covers will be dupes.

All the above have RGHE (well 2 have RGHP) to start so how would we deal with that situation without the 5th and 6th ?

With the current system you would need to change yout game ID so it's unique, or you would only be able to install one of the games anyway. This means that everyone will have a different ID, this is bad for a number of reasons:

a) This would not work with a USB loader which downloads the covers from your site anyway
b) People would need to edit the image name manually.

If they have to change the game ID anyway, why not go the whole hog and change the first 4 letters as well

This could cause conflicts with future releases though (if the ID is the same), people just need to be smart with their IDs, or change them if there is a conflict.

 

[nindim]

I understand your suggestion. The difference is mainly in Japanese vs Western covers, not NTSC-U vs PAL. Japanese cover art tends to be particularly gorgeous and it would be a shame if it got replaced by crappy western versions. Also, some people keep different region versions of the same game, so merging is not ideal.

I would support switching completely to a 4-letter format though, since letters 5 & 6 serve no purpose to the consumer, and most game databases (like Gamefaqs) use 4 letters. Less typing for people and less strain on the USB Loader trying to read all those images from the SD card.

I hadn't thought about Japanese covers, good call

I support the 4 letter format and I agree it would support everybody. Although it would require slight changes to the current loaders and the database.

To be honest though, I dont think we need to worry about the old loaders, once the loaders come out that directly support loading from the net if ia cover doesn't exist, surely they will be using djtazs site and it will become the de facto standard. We have a chance here to improve upon the work that has been done already and make life easier in the future.

Obviosuly it's up to djtaz if he can be bothered making the required changes (not sure how long it would take), either that, or someone could make a clone to support this "new method". Personally I would like to see djtaz switch as I like the website and it already has a lot of support.

 

[Knocks]

It doesn't matter, because these are hacked ISOs with injected songs made by amateur modders. They should have been given numeric IDs or something that would identify them as non-retail/homebrew, instead of replicating the retail ID, heh. If you want to install that junk to your hard drive, you're on your own.

 

[djtaz]

Yeah its possible to change things to the 4 digit code as long as the loaders only look for the 4 digits.
I have to rename the last 2 digits on some of the images i have and see if they still work with loaders.

It would make life easier for everyone if we only had the 4 and would save mixups , but its all up to how the loaders read the images really.

 

[nindim]

I'm currently using the Ultimate Edition loader (linked on the wiki) which seems to be the best so far, I could trry and find the source for this and update it to the 4 digit format, but as I said, I haven't done any coding for wii yet, so would need to get setup etc and that could take a while. If anyone is already setup and could do this, would save a lot of time.....

If we decide to go ahead with the change, might be worth posting in all the active USB loader threads to tell them... especially the new (unreleased) GUI loaders, looks like they're the future.

 

[Knocks]

nindim, it's a good idea to give them a heads up by posting there. Things are currently hecting over there and not all contributors are necessarily on the same page.

 

[nindim]

We would need to get the go ahead from djtaz about the changes before we start posting elsewhere, if we don't have the library to back it up, we'd just be confusing people further. I agree about how hectic it is, everyone's going mental!

Might be worth just putting a post on the main page as well, just so everyone can see it.

 

[Sanoblue]

i agree this usb loader has taken flight way to fast... all the mods are getting to the point of ridiculous....

we need something like USBLOADER The Simple Edition

Everything you need and nothing u dont.... lol

Simply the loader and nothing more none of this region patching or child safe...

loader and installer and a nice gui...

the general public only needs this... i mean y download the pal version if u can download the ntsc version in your region... to your drive?

as for jap imports yes i see the need to patch to pal.... but that can be patched and released as the Pal Version...

i begg

SOMEONE STOP ALL THE PATCHING MADNESS

and work with someone who has some common sense to provide a loader that isnt so hectic

if u want im more than happy to help

i cant code but im skilled at photo shop

so if anyone will hear my plea please contact me and im more than happy to assist in "pooling" ideas with a group, and see what kind of loader comes of it

 

[xem1x]

PROPER FIX for NTSC Wii Play

NTSC:

**The one currently uploaded for NTSC is a PAL cover.


Sorry so picky.

 

[giantpune]

Let me start by saying that I'm not complaining, I'm just trying to find a fix for something. There is a lot of effort going into this so I think that everybody would agree that this is worth at least looking into.

There seems to be an issue with the quality of the covers I get off the database. I have a big fancy TV and most of the boxart I get from the site looks very grainy. If I make the same boxart with the same dimensions, it comes out to a smaller file size and looks better on my TV. There are several probable causes for this

1 The original source of the image was crappy.
2 The uploader didn't know what they were doing. (but I still appreciate the effort)
3 A poor batch program was used to convert the images.
4 The zipping process has taken away from the quality.

If any of the first 3 are the cause, implementing a way to re-upload/replace boxart could fix it. Even if we only fix one pic at a time, it will still eventually get done. If It's the fourth, then getting rid of the zipping process would do it.

Here's what I'm talking about...
The top image is one I pulled from the site, the bottom I made in photoshop from a pic off google images. Look at the guy's right arm, left leg, and hair- also the trees in the BG on the left. The difference is not terrible in this pic, but just imagine it on a big ass TV.



I am willing to help fix these if you guys think it is as important as I do.

 

[nindim]

This probably has something to do with the filter used to resize them, think it was kosaic that resized the majority of the images on the site, so maybe he can comment on the process? I know he's commenetd in other threads that he has a 130" screen (projector) and they look fine. On my 40" LCD, they do look a bit grainy in some instances, but by no means are they terrible.

It probably would have been an idea to rename the source images with the correct ID, then batch resize them and save somehwere else..... if he did that and still has the source maybe he could provide it to someone if they think they can resize them with better quality. The renaming is the hard bit, the resizing should be the easy bit. I'm pretty sure djtaz could do a mass replace for us as well, so no need for the single upload feature (although might be nice to have, open to abuse though). This is assuming that the original image was of decent quality obviosuly, zipping the files should be lossless compression.

 

[djtaz]

You can rule out zipping by directly clicking on any of the images and downloading them directly
The resolution may be at 72 dpi as well and better images may require 300 dpi.

Im willing to exchange any image on the site for a better one

Speaking of that - the NTSC cover is now on for Wii Play

 

[djtaz]

I have just added a request section to the site - once you enter the name , ID and region , anyone going to the site will see the request on the index page and can just click the upload image box to upload it for you.

Might make life a little easier for uploading images for people

 

[Davedom]

Could you put separate links for the smaller versions of the images that the gui loader uses?
not just the pal images

 

[Wiisel]

in the pal section RNXPDA has the wrong name and cover it should be Naruto - Clash Of Ninja Revolution but has the cover and title of Naruto - Clash Of Ninja 2
heres the correct cover

the same issue is in the ntsc section i can only hazard a guess that its RNXEDA that is the ntsc version tho

just cant please some people

 

[djtaz]

Could you put separate links for the smaller versions of the images that the gui loader uses?
not just the pal images
I dont have the smaller versions - i was going to upload them , but was asked to hold off as they are trying to code it into the loader instead of needing 2 different images, which kinda makes sense really.

Posts merged

QUOTE(Wiisel @ Apr 10 2009, 09:12 PM) in the pal section RNXPDA has the wrong name and cover it should be Naruto - Clash Of Ninja Revolution but has the cover and title of Naruto - Clash Of Ninja 2
heres the correct cover

the same issue is in the ntsc section i can only hazard a guess that its RNXEDA that is the ntsc version tho

just cant please some people

are the image names correct though ?

 

[Wiisel]

the one in my post is for the pal version with correct name

 

[hilo]

ok merci pour la traduction djtaz

 

[MrFaust]

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