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  1. Jiehfeng

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    You're forgetting consoles are usually sold at a loss, and current gen consoles are $300. In the future when these consoles would release, the parts used would be cheaper.
     
  2. ThoD

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    Who told you they are sold at a loss? You are forgetting that manufacturers aren't paying the same you'd pay to make one, when you buy/build parts in bulk in the MILLIONS, it's a lot cheaper than buying 10-20 of them:P The "loss" is at MOST 5% of the price and it almost always occurs after launch, as almost all consoles ever launched have been sold at prices that gave a decent margin in profits to allow for the "loss" from bundles/sales/pricedrops that come later.
     
  3. Jiehfeng

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    At most 5%? From where did you get that info? iirc the PS3 had $100+ losses at launch, and other consoles as well but I don't remember the figures. In any case this is too much of a discussion for the meme box. :P
     
  4. ThoD

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    Are you really saying the console that had the third highest launch price out of ALL consoles ever made had a loss of 100+$ at launch? Seriously? The loss was from the price being too high, not too low. They lost initial sales, then had to cut the price down by a LOT in order to even sell, that's where the loss came from.
     
  5. Jiehfeng

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    Even with a $599 price point it's still a loss per console, nevermind loss from units unsold.
     
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  6. ThoD

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    You just proved my point, you are comparing SINGLE purchases, in which case it would be losing money, BUT they buy the parts/components and everything in BULK and manufactured in company owned factories, which is ridiculously cheaper. If you are looking at the price of 1 of each part, of course it's gonna end up with a really high price, only an idiot would do such a comparison! Retail parts have huge markups compared to mass produced ones since they have to go through 3-4 hands first (component factory, assembly factory, storage, distribution, retail, etc.) so they end up having higher prices, but if you get them directly from factory and in bulk in the MILLIONS, it's going to be a LOT cheaper and that's on top of the fact that some components are made in-house such as parts of the motherboards, disk drives, etc. (which is dirt cheap).

    Anyways, EoF and memes aren't a place to talk about this so let's leave it at that and I'll just assume you got my point:P
     
  7. Jiehfeng

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    Dude, it's never mass production to levels where you get that big of a discount, especially at launch where only like 200k is produced. I'm sure the analysts considered bulk discounts, and even then at that time period it was new technology, that won't get you $200+ bulk discounts especially at a launch level of production. It's common knowledge the PS3 made losses per unit by cost, google and you'll get millions of articles on it.
    If you still say no, let's talk on our profiles or something to avoid flooding the meme box. ;D

    EDIT: I also forgot to mention, it said $800 excluding the cost of the controller, cables, and packaging as well. And the $800 cost is for the 20 GB model that was priced at $500, so I don't believe this extremely generous bulk discount theory of yours, especially considering again, the amount produced at launch/planned.
     
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  8. Jiehfeng

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    398edaa.
     
  9. Megadriver94

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    [​IMG] Graphics card argument for gaming PC
     
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    AMD has a track record of releasing poor drivers for their graphics cards which cause issues. I'd take NVidia over AMD any day simply for the stability.
     
  12. MythicalData

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    also better open gl support. No need for vulkan backends usually (this is the kicker for me cuz emulation)
    edit (invidia has the better support)
     
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  13. Jiehfeng

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    he's sweating because theres no button for PC. And AMD has higher framerates for First Person Games, Nvidia has higher framerates for third-person. AMD has been good now since 2016-ish, but they werent for a good long stretch.

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    LOL its ideal to stop magikarps evolution until the lvl.90's
     
  16. WiiHomebrew+Snes

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    actually he's sweating because there's no button for the bandai playdia. according to wikipedia, it's entire lifespan was September 23, 1994 yet it still had titles releasing until the middle of 1996 even though nobody knew what it was or cared. now that's dedication.
     
  17. Megadriver94

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    AMD has had many ups and downs, especially in the 2000s. They have gotten better as of 2014-2016(somewhere around that line).
     
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  18. gameboy

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    Amd got competitive again whenever Ryzen and Polaris first came out
     
  19. Jiehfeng

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    The PS4 can be such a drama queen sometimes...

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