Shenmue 3: Reasonably Concerned

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  1. Robfozz
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    As some of you may or may not recognize Ive written quite a few Shenmue related things on this site now. I'd consider myself a pretty big fan with Shenmue 2 being my all-time favorite game for however many years now. Anyway, with this thread I'd hope to spark a discussion with the like 2 other people on here who even know what Shenmue is.

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    Shenmue 3 is releasing in just 6 months(barring any future delays, which still seem like a possibility). This is something that many people have been waiting for for almost 20 years at this point. It's so close I can almost see my $250 goodiebox of Kickstarter treats in my hands now. However, Ive been quite skeptical of the games quality from the start. Let me explain.

    I, like many others, lost my shit when Shenmue 3 had been announced at that fateful Sony E3 conference. But then I recollected myself quickly and immediately almost began dreading this announcement. "Kickstarter? Oh no." I thought to myself with the smile on my face quickly turning into a look of concern. Immediately I realized that this will be a gimped Shenmue experience even if it could reach 10x its $2,000,000 goal.

    Now, I know admittedly know very little about game development, but I think I know more than the average bear. It's fairly obvious that a Shenmue with todays technology wouldn't require the original 2 game's $80,000,000 budget, but that doesn't mean with its relatively small 7.5 mil it ended up raising that it won't have any compromises. Now, apparently there is some outside funding coming from investors and their publisher Deep Silver and while it's true we don't know at all how much is being contributed but I think its safe to assume it's not a game changing amount.

    Okay, so the budget is something that should put your expectations in check, but there's even more to consider and that's how little we have been shown of the game. Outside of a handful of screenshots and 2 very short trailers that really do not show much of anything besides close ups of some characters, we haven't seen really anything. No gameplay, no in depth looks at the environments, no story details, no combat, no minigames, we have seen virtually nothing of this game during its 4 years and counting of development. And again, the reason I'm even writing this, the game is set to release in just a few months.

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    This single screenshot is the closest thing we have seen to gameplay.

    That's what worries me the most about the whole situation, the refusal to show off the game. The few times we have seen it, It's looked bad, and they're aware of that from the fan response. Faces look lifeless and some don't even resemble the characters we know and love from past games. Animations on the character rigs are some of the worst and most primitive ever seen. Backlash was instantaneous and they quickly responded with a video of "real facial animation" being worked on but ironically it looked just as bad if not worse than in the trailer. The environments look quite nice and in some of the newer screenshots the characters look decent but otherwise in motion the games looked pretty awful. Hell in the most recent trailer there's slow down. Have you even seen poor performance in a trailer? It's ridiculous.


    This was supposed to be a "we told you so" response to the fans after the initial trailer but it really didn't help their case.

    Anyways, we're scheduled to finally see the game in motion gameplay and all next month at MAGIC Monaco, a small Anime and Gamed festival in France. Why there? Not really sure but I think one of the key investors runs that event or something. It's such a Literally Who convention but it's been pretty much the only place we've been getting new info on the game since it's initial reveal. Hopefully it's good this time but I won't be surprised if it's the same crap we've been seeing.

    What do you guys think? Are you excited or skeptical like I am?
     
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  2. alexander1970

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    Hello.:)

    I´ve played Shenmue 1 on Dreamcast to the end.A great long time experience.A milestone in gaming.:bow:

    Sadly for Shenmue 2 on XBox i have not so much time for it (yes i have an LIFE :D ) so i don´t get through it.I´ll started it a few times but i never give ME the time to continue......

    Time goes by and surprisely last Year it comes to PC and i get it but.....the play spirit isn´t the same as in Dreamcast times.

    I don´t know.....on what it fails......:unsure:
    Resident Evil 2 Remake works for me,but Shenmue....
    Personally i don´t have any expectations on Shenmue 3.Maybe the Game of the century....maybe not..i don´t know....:mellow:
     
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    Personally I find the game as a whole boring with very slow pacing with the overall progression and lack of things to do besides the story to keep me entertained. I thought the only players this game appealed to was people who wanted a epic story that is more realistic than I would want for a video game. I was always skeptical about who likes this game and why, with no one ever explaining much reason behind it. But then find out people make fun of the context of the dialogue and voice acting saying "It's so bad, but it's good" then stuff like having lots of Quick Time Events (Literally mini games dedicated to that, guess you need practice on such a thing to even progress the game. Thanks for the training) with very little to praise about what matters.

    Is the game any fun? What do you like about it? What do you do? Is the story good, the main focus of the game which I thought why people play it in the first place? What kind of players does the series appeal to? Why did a game that sold poorly but slowly became favored among many achieved the stats of "cult classic" suddenly become the biggest talk of the generation? As much as those was the question I wanted answers for, I'm not even sure I can accept them without skepticism. Of course if the game ends up appealing me by the time it's release, I would like to try it.

    But based on the two previous ones, and current info I have of the new one, I do not. Having everything become scheduled events may be ground breaking stuff, but for a game it's not what I would find good for gameplay especially with lack of entertaining things to do filling time in between besides talking to other characters. It's hard to call this a game, is more like a simulation or a "visual novel" and I'm sorry if that offends fans of the game. I am not speaking negative about the game in anyway or anyone who enjoys it. I'm sure there is a great and appealing story to anyone with patience to sit through it all if they are willing to do so. :ninja:
     
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    Shenmue 1 & 2, as highlighted by last years remake/re-release, are simply 2 of those games that were fantastic At The Time, but now? Not so much... Even after putting on my finest pair of rose tinted glasses to play them this was apparent (Has anybody recently played the other big Sony reveal of that year - Final Fantasy VII?? That's exactly the same)

    Now Shenmue 3, it's always seemed by the reveals that this is a game the developers are almost forced to make due to the cry out by fans (anyone can spew BS about how they've wanted to carry the franchise on in an interview), but don't really want to do it, and as a result don't really seem to know where they're going with it or anything..... so no, I've no excitement building about it: I will read the reviews, likely shredding it, and mumble 'thought so' to myself or something.. but will gladly eat my hat if I'm wrong! ;)
     
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    I remember like it was yesterday, I went to my reliable videogames shop because the owner, which is a friend of mine, called me to show me the new imported Playstation2 he just got for £2.800.000 on day1 (something like 3000€ today)

    I literally ran to the shop and as I entered there was the PS2 with Ridge Racer V rolling and the owner was so excited he was one of the first person in Italy to own a PS2 imported from Japan.

    In another corner there was this thing that immediately caught my full attention and I asked wtf was that?

    He just said that was the new Sega console called Dreamcast and I insisted to know what was that game that was playing on the DC so he said it's a game called Shenmue.

    Long story sort, I didn't care for one second for the PS2, I just said, whatever this is I want it right now, and I bought the DC + Shenmue immediately and ran back home shortly after.

    I loved Shenmue 1-2 so much and it was so sad to see how the DC and most of the franchises died, including Shenmue that I hoped for many years to see Shenmue3 one day, but the sad truth is, I'm pretty sure it's not Shenmue time anymore.

    One of the most incredible thing about Shenmue was the graphic, nothing so beautiful ever entered home videogames before that game, it felt like it was 10 years ahead of everything else and it really felt special.

    The story was great, slow paced, giving you all the time to roam around and just watch how beautiful everything was, the atmosphere was great, it was perfect and beyond for that time.

    Today it's not that time anymore, even more not for a crowdfunded game when there are so many AAA games that costs hundreds of millions of $ in the making, and the technology today is so ahead that it's almost impossible to make a videogame that can have such an impact as Shenmue had, the last one that come to my mind is probably Half Life 2.

    Also 20 years is too much to still be emotionally involved in the story, I tried to play it again on PC when it came out the last summer but basically all the magic was gone.

    It's simply too late for Shenmue3 and it will never be what we wanted it to be when it was supposed to be.
     
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    Seeing a lot of "It's too late for a Shenmue 3, the old games don't hold up anymore." I completely disagree. I think Shenmue, especially 2, has aged pretty damn well. The graphics still look pretty good, the story is still interesting, the combat is fun, and the level of detail and interactivity is still unmatched by games even today. One of my favorite examples is in Shenmue 2 Kowloon you can go inside of every single room in these apartment buildings. There must be thousands of rooms and each one is uniquely decorated and set up. They literally did this just for a single mission where you have to find a specific persons room.

    I'm literally worried about everything else concerning this game, if it was just like the old ones I'd actually be quite happy.
     
  7. JustinCredible

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    I wanted to preorder it on Best Buy (where I have gamer club unlocked, 20% off all games) but the game does not exist to them. Shenmue I & II are there for both PS4 and Xbox One, but no Shenmue 3.
     
  8. Robfozz
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    The game isn't available for pre-order anywhere yet, check again in about a month when the big news blowout is scheduled.
     
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    I've misread 'cancelled'.
     
  10. alexander1970

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    It can be the same as Skyrim 5 and maybe 6.Everlasting wait til release and then at a stunner !! :yay:
    But the reality is like this::unsure:

    "When Shenmue 3 comes out ?"
    "When you release it finally ?"
    "Can you release it in June 2019 ?"
    "Hey,Deep Silver,i must have this game,release it !!"
    "I can´t wait,please release it !"
    "..............."
    *startingapeditionforearlierrelease*

    AND of COURSE:

    SUMMERSALE 2019
    "Yes we have to release it August 2019 (no matter it´s ready or not....)"

    And then

    "Mahhhh,this game sucks....."
    "Ehh,why you release it when it´s not ready ?"
    "This game is bulls**t !!"
    "My Screen goes black when i ......."
    "Boah, 60 bucks and a pile of junk..."
    "....................."

    :blink::wacko:



    YES,so you can destroy a game like in the past.:evil:
     
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