Hacking Seedminer vs ntrboot

[R4ismychildhood]

Hi. I'm preparing to CFW my N3DSXL (currently on 11.13.0). I'm not very good with hardmod but still, I want to compare the two options. Which method will last longer for the future (the installed CFW will not be broken for the next firmware update?) I have both a GPU laptop and a flashcart for either option.

Thank you.

 

[zoogie]

If you already have an ntrboot flashcart I'd just go ahead and use that.

If you didn't already have one, I'd recommend seedminer (or whatever the latest method* should be) as there's no cost and there's no wait for shipping a physical product from China.

* this method will likely change again this month, for the better.

 

[R4ismychildhood]

If you already have an ntrboot flashcart I'd just go ahead and use that.

If you didn't already have one, I'd recommend seedminer (or whatever the latest method* should be) as there's no cost and there's no wait for shipping a physical product from China.

* this method will likely change again this month, for the better.

Omg are you the original creator of Seedminer???

 

[zoogie]

Omg are you the original creator of Seedminer???

Yes, but despite my affiliation* with that, I'm trying to be honest here.

The thing about free softmods is, why not? You get the same end result (b9s) and there's no risk or sacrifice for trying. Then the main issue past that is whether you want solid DS game booting or not. And even that is becoming a moot point with nds-bootstrap getting better.
I guess there's also the issue of "brick protection" and if that's the case, you could just wait and buy one if the need arises. Most people won't need it (it's hard to brick a 3ds with b9s and a backup, but some people manage).

*I've never taken a cent for my work, even donations

 

[R4ismychildhood]

If you already have an ntrboot flashcart I'd just go ahead and use that.

If you didn't already have one, I'd recommend seedminer (or whatever the latest method* should be) as there's no cost and there's no wait for shipping a physical product from China.

* this method will likely change again this month, for the better.

I only have an R4i-SDHC 3DS RTS at home and a R4i Gold 3DS on the way. Neither of them comes pre-flashed with ntrboot, so I'll have to use a magnet if I use ntrboot, but I really don't want to put a magnet on my N3DSXL as I'm a horrbile hardmodder (anything I mod just breaks). And even if I have the R4i Gold 3DS Plus it's likely I'll break the chip when opening it.

I will patiently wait for your update!

 

[zoogie]

I only have an R4i-SDHC 3DS RTS at home and a R4i Gold 3DS on the way. Neither of them comes pre-flashed with ntrboot, so I'll have to use a magnet if I use ntrboot, but I really don't want to put a magnet on my N3DSXL as I'm a horrbile hardmodder (anything I mod just breaks).

I will patiently wait for your update!

In ntrboot's defense, it's not dangerous. The magnet won't hurt anything and it's definitely not a hardmod
Go ahead and do ntrboot. It's the best option when you already have a compatible flashcard (especially the pre flashed ones).

 

[R4ismychildhood]

In ntrboot's defense, it's not dangerous. The magnet won't hurt anything and it's definitely not a hardmod
Go ahead and do ntrboot.

But the end result of both methods are the same right?

 

[zoogie]

But the end result of both methods are the same right?

Yes, that is correct. They both install boot9strap, which is a perm softmod that gives you complete control of the system from coldboot. No hack can possibly be better.

 

[R4ismychildhood]

Yes, that is correct. They both install boot9strap, which is a perm softmod that gives you complete control of the system from coldboot. No hack can possibly be better.

Thank you and hope you have a great Christmas. I couldn't survive the lockdown without my Switch.

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Yes, that is correct. They both install boot9strap, which is a perm softmod that gives you complete control of the system from coldboot. No hack can possibly be better.

Just to clarify (correct me if I'm wrong):

As firmware 11.14.0 came out, it 'broke' all CFW systems as they all run Luma v10.2 (which is fixed by updating to Luma v10.2.1). ntrboot works for all version but Seedminer doesn't, and the people say a firmware update 'breaks' a certain CFW method it just means you can't use that method in the latest firmware, instead meaning it 'breaks' systems already with CFW?

For 'bricking' I thought it means something goes wrong in the process of modding, and the system doesn't work as it should?

Thanks.

 

[TurdPooCharger]

In ntrboot's defense, it's not dangerous. The magnet won't hurt anything and it's definitely not a hardmod
Go ahead and do ntrboot. It's the best option when you already have a compatible flashcard (especially the pre flashed ones).

There is a certain scenario where ntrboot can be unsafe.

Under no circumstance should one place a strong magnet too close to the screens. Those LCD panels have back metal plating.

Use a strong enough (but not too strong) magnet or cover the screens with a cloth towel.

In case any of you mess up, you're going to have so much fun buffing out that accidentally scratch/dent with a q-tip and compound polish.

 

[R4ismychildhood]

There is a certain scenario where ntrboot can be unsafe.

Under no circumstance should one place a strong magnet too close to the screens. Those LCD panels have back metal plating.

Use a strong enough (but not too strong) magnet or cover the screens with a cloth towel.

In case any of you mess up, you're going to have so much fun buffing out that accidentally scratch/dent with a q-tip and compound polish.

Does this apply to both flashcarts with and without pre-flashed with ntrboot?

 

[TurdPooCharger]

Does this apply to both flashcarts with and without pre-flashed with ntrboot?

Flashcart has nothing to do with this.

When applying the magnet around the (B)-(A)-(START)-(SELECT) area to trigger sleep mode, avoid bringing it near the screens least it decides to smash into the glass/clear plastic.

 

[R4ismychildhood]

Flashcart has nothing to do with this.

When applying the magnet around the (B)-(A)-(START)-(SELECT) area to trigger sleep mode, avoid bringing it near the screens least it decides to smash into the glass/clear plastic.

I see! Thanks. I'll use Seedminer to eliminate this risk.

 

[R4ismychildhood]

Flashcart has nothing to do with this.

When applying the magnet around the (B)-(A)-(START)-(SELECT) area to trigger sleep mode, avoid bringing it near the screens least it decides to smash into the glass/clear plastic.

Just realized according to https://3ds.hacks.guide/ntrboot, 'If your flashcart comes pre-flashed with ntrboot (or you have already flashed ntrboot to your flashcart), you can skip to Installing boot9strap (ntrboot) for instructions on how to use it.' Meaning the part using a magnet can't be skipped even with flashcarts that comes pre-flashed with ntrboot.

 

[Deleted member 668561]

I would recommend to buy a nds flashcard that has ntr boot built in, toggled via a small switch or button,

You never know when it may come in handy..., It is hard to brick a 3ds, but its possible

 

[TurdPooCharger]

Am I seeing this correctly? The R4i Gold 3DS Plus and Ace3DS X are back in stock?

• [digitopz] R4i Gold 3DS RTS Plus
• [digitopz] Ace3DS X

 

[R4ismychildhood]

Am I seeing this correctly? The R4i Gold 3DS Plus and Ace3DS X are back in stock?

• [digitopz] R4i Gold 3DS RTS Plus
• [digitopz] Ace3DS X

Thanks for the discovery. However the picture on the original site has a black USB instead of a pink one? http://www.r4ids.cn/r4ids-e.htm

 

[TurdPooCharger]

Thanks for the discovery. However the picture on the original site has a black USB instead of a pink one? http://www.r4ids.cn/r4ids-e.htm

Whichever color it comes in, that T-FLASH adapter is a piece of junk. If your computer does not have a built-in SD reader, get a better (micro)SD-to-USB reader like one of these.

• SDCARD READER

 

[nl255]

Yes, that is correct. They both install boot9strap, which is a perm softmod that gives you complete control of the system from coldboot. No hack can possibly be better.

I wouldn't say that as I think Fastboot3DS is much better than boot9strap though to be fair fastboot is just a different implementation of the same underlying mod.

Just to clarify (correct me if I'm wrong):

As firmware 11.14.0 came out, it 'broke' all CFW systems as they all run Luma v10.2 (which is fixed by updating to Luma v10.2.1). ntrboot works for all version but Seedminer doesn't, and the people say a firmware update 'breaks' a certain CFW method it just means you can't use that method in the latest firmware, instead meaning it 'breaks' systems already with CFW?

For 'bricking' I thought it means something goes wrong in the process of modding, and the system doesn't work as it should?

Thanks.

What happend is that Luma (and other CFW, assuming there are any left that are still being updated) works by patching Ninty's firmware as it is loaded into memory. Sometimes when a new system update is released Luma can no longer find the correct places to modify the OFW code and thus those patches have to be updated to work again. No different than if you have ever used SKSE/F4SE with the PC versions of Skyrim or Fallout 4 except that those apparently use hardcoded offsets (memory locations) rather than pattern based "smartpatching".

The Luma configuration/chainloader menus as well as (most?) other payloads such as godmode9 are completely self contained and don't rely on any of Ninty's code to work.

 

[BaamAlex]

but I really don't want to put a magnet on my N3DSXL

If you say so, you shouldn't close the lid of your 3DS either. That is the same principle. The speaker is also a magnet and sends the 3DS to standby. In simple terms of course.