OUYA Launch Delayed to meet Retail Demand

[Taleweaver]

Don't worry. This delay will make sure that all the major publishers will be able to properly get their line-up ready for release.

And look...there's the nice people from EA. They're still polishing up the ouya's online system so it'll be ready for their games*.





*those not knowing what this joke is referring to: please read this link.

 

[Sicklyboy]

I feel like I am the only person who is somewhat excited for this aside from LightyKD.

I just want one. Same reason I want a WiiU and a PS Vita.

 

[Zetta_x]

I've had an Ouya for a couple of weeks now.

I'm not sure what's with all of the negativity of the system. For $99 (and I got mine for $95), it's a pretty decent system. It seems to do retro emulation just fine and from what I've seen (although I haven't sideloaded the apps yet) would be a good streaming console.

People like Foxi seem to compare this product with phones which is the complete wrong fucking thing to do. Sure there are some phones that run android, but you aren't going to find phones + controller combo for $99 that will be able to compete with not only the power but also the cooling. The dedicated power also lets ouya boost up the performance more than what a standard phone would do. You need to compare this product with Roku, AppleTv...etc. Not to mention, for the next year or so, the majority of games should run fine on OUYA so I don't know what the whole deal is by requiring so much more power than needed.

I have not tested it yet, so I'm not going to offer any advice, but once I sideload the netflix app I will be able to comment on it's streaming capabilities. Everything else, I'm pretty satisfied with the product and thinking heavily on selling my Apple TV 3

 

[Sicklyboy]

[...]I have not tested it yet, so I'm not going to offer any advice, but once I sideload the netflix app I will be able to comment on it's streaming capabilities. Everything else, I'm pretty satisfied with the product and thinking heavily on selling my Apple TV 3

I'd be very interested to see how it works with a sideloaded Plex apk, as I hold a lot of my stuff on my in-house media server.

 

[Zetta_x]

That's the next thing I am going to do. If I can get the ouya to work with my media server, I'll be pretty happy

 

[IBNobody]

I feel like I am the only person who is somewhat excited for this aside from LightyKD.

I'm excited, but I'm not going to sing the praises of the system until I have it and tested it. Zetta_X's comments are heartening, though, because it sounds like we are going to be using the system in a similar manner.

I've heard mixed things on Netflix streaming.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2269041

 

[T-hug]

Still waiting for mine I backed it and paid it off months ago.
After watching reviews of the backer units that were sent out I'm probably not even going to open it and just ebay it.

 

[Zetta_x]

I've figured sideloading netflix was going to have problems, may need to wait until some type of netflix app comes out on OUYA (if it ever comes out).

 

[Qtis]

People like Foxi seem to compare this product with phones which is the complete wrong fucking thing to do. Sure there are some phones that run android, but you aren't going to find phones + controller combo for $99 that will be able to compete with not only the power but also the cooling. The dedicated power also lets ouya boost up the performance more than what a standard phone would do. You need to compare this product with Roku, AppleTv...etc. Not to mention, for the next year or so, the majority of games should run fine on OUYA so I don't know what the whole deal is by requiring so much more power than needed.

While I see what you're going at, I have to say that the comparison is very viable in many ways. First of all, phones run on the same architecture (multi-core ARM) and run the same OS software (Android). Second, many people have a phone already and are willing to throw a few hundred $$ to get a decent one. While the OUYA does have a controller, how many people don't have a PS3 or similar controller somewhere or couldn't buy one cheap. There are already a few controller holders/clips for phones too. Only major difference for the two items is the constant power supply of the OUYA and big ass heat sink.

If you wonder the large power requests, it's due to Android (and why not iOS, WP8, etc) needing more resources for the latest features. Mobile phones get old very fast. Especially Android phones. My phone is a bit over 2 years old and the RAM amount in the latest Android phones is almost 10x it. The mobile world (or should I say ARM world?) is changing so fast that OUYA will face the fact very soon that the latest games don't run on it. Upgrading is an option very fast, but many people tend to buy a console for the sole reason that they can trust it to work for at least a few years forward without major hardware updates (updates that replace or make the old hardware bad in comparison).

ps. I will be getting an OUYA or something similar in the end. At the current time, there are too many games and consoles out there that offer better value for my in a way limited savings. Especially with used games/consoles à la PS360.
pps. I'll get it partly to replace my PS3 as a media center with low power consumption. This will happen only after the console has FullHD 1080p Netflix streaming like the PS3

 

[Zetta_x]

Still waiting for mine I backed it and paid it off months ago.
After watching reviews of the backer units that were sent out I'm probably not even going to open it and just ebay it.

Any reason why? I'll clarify some details. A lot of the reviews I read had a whole complete different experience than what I did.

While I see what you're going at, I have to say that the comparison is very viable in many ways. First of all, phones run on the same architecture (multi-core ARM) and run the same OS software (Android). Second, many people have a phone already and are willing to throw a few hundred $$ to get a decent one. While the OUYA does have a controller, how many people don't have a PS3 or similar controller somewhere or couldn't buy one cheap. There are already a few controller holders/clips for phones too. Only major difference for the two items is the constant power supply of the OUYA and big ass heat sink.

If you wonder the large power requests, it's due to Android (and why not iOS, WP8, etc) needing more resources for the latest features. Mobile phones get old very fast. Especially Android phones. My phone is a bit over 2 years old and the RAM amount in the latest Android phones is almost 10x it. The mobile world (or should I say ARM world?) is changing so fast that OUYA will face the fact very soon that the latest games don't run on it. Upgrading is an option very fast, but many people tend to buy a console for the sole reason that they can trust it to work for at least a few years forward without major hardware updates (updates that replace or make the old hardware bad in comparison).

ps. I will be getting an OUYA or something similar in the end. At the current time, there are too many games and consoles out there that offer better value for my in a way limited savings. Especially with used games/consoles à la PS360.

What I meant previously was:

People who are looking to purchase a phone will probably not get an OUYA. There's no way in hell someone will say "I'd rather get an OUYA than a phone."

However, people who are looking to play Android games (and possibly streaming/media center capabilities) would probably say, "An OUYA is a great alternative, plus I don't have to keep connecting my phone to the TV or worry about overheating or have to get a contract or a data plan or ______"

You all are power hungry motherfuckers. The games I have played on the ouya are running perfectly, emulation (of snes and nes) seems to run great (haven't tested many games). Even the N64 has playable games (although some slow down but definitely still playable). Majority of the Android games will be playable (if designed to work with OUYA). Not only that, but the ported games to the OUYA look real nice on the big screen. The controller comes with a mouse tracker pad which just sweetens the deal. I realize that it probably won't be able to have new android features, but some of them would be unnecessary for the console.

The only downside is the store is a bit empty. I haven't tried 80% of the games but they didn't seem interesting. Although, there were a number of games that didn't seem interesting that I genuinely liked.

 

[Deleted member 194275]

Should I remeber you that Ouya costs $99??? It is cheaper than products like a PS2, DS Lite, Kinect, Dingoo, iPhone 3, Football Shirts, etc.
I was on europe on the week of april 21st, You spend in some cities 60 EUR just for eat four times a day.

There is some people, like us here, that can afford a "premium" video game, and there is others that can not, for those there is Ouya, Zeebo, etc. We should respect companies that put more people on gaming world with low prices.

 

[Foxi4]

OUYA is the first Android console to be sold at common retail stores.

That's not true, it looks like you haven't been to your local supermarket in the last couple of years. Here's something High-End with the added benefit of being portable, on the low-end you have all those "MP5 players" mostly made by our friends at JXD (yes, they are available at normal stores). Some of those come with mini/microHDMI, but if you really, really, really want a Home Console equivalent then again, Android sticks.

Are there alternatives? Yes, but... Can you buy an Android stick at a brick-and-mortar Target, Best Buy, or Gamestop? Can you buy an Android stick at Fry's? No. They are currently mail-order only. They lack developer support specifically for them and aren't made for easy use and consumption. They are a niche product for the tech savvy.

Oh c'mon - don't give me that. There's plenty of "Smart TV" boxes out there - the one by Google isn't the only one available and althought they're not "sticks" they still could apply to the Home Console space easily. As for the "tech-savvyness" of the target End-User, you're shooting yourself in the foot - a less tech-savvy user will get an XBox, a PlayStation or a Wii console rather than an indie Android box.

But the Games! The Games, you say! It doesn't have any good exclusives! It doesn't bother me at all. I didn't buy it for the quantity or quality of games. The games are an afterthought. The system's shaping up to be an excellent, cheap set-top-box. (Besides... Lack of games didn't stop you from buying the PS Vita, did it? )

The lack of games argument on the PSVita is so old and inaccurate at this point that it's not even funny. Besides, it had plenty of games that I wanted when I bought it and I never really complained about not having anything to play, especially with PSPlus.

As for phones and HDMI... Unless you had an old phone you can permanently hook up, it's takes too much setup/teardown to be worthwhile on a regular basis. It's good on paper, but "Meh" in real life.

Too much setup/teardown as in, one cable. Good, good.

 

[JulietStMoon]

Should I remeber you that Ouya costs $99??? It is cheaper than products like a PS2, DS Lite, Kinect, Dingoo, iPhone 3, Football Shirts, etc.
I was on europe on the week of april 21st, You spend in some cities 60 EUR just for eat four times a day.

There is some people, like us here, that can afford a "premium" video game, and there is others that can not, for those there is Ouya, Zeebo, etc. We should respect companies that put more people on gaming world with low prices.

Um, where are you seeing PS2s, DSLites, and Kinects for over $100? I know for a fact that most US shops sell all of those for much less than that, at least used.

 

[Foxi4]

I've had an Ouya for a couple of weeks now.

I'm not sure what's with all of the negativity of the system. For $99 (and I got mine for $95), it's a pretty decent system. It seems to do retro emulation just fine and from what I've seen (although I haven't sideloaded the apps yet) would be a good streaming console.

People like Foxi seem to compare this product with phones which is the complete wrong fucking thing to do. Sure there are some phones that run android, but you aren't going to find phones + controller combo for $99 that will be able to compete with not only the power but also the cooling. The dedicated power also lets ouya boost up the performance more than what a standard phone would do. You need to compare this product with Roku, AppleTv...etc. Not to mention, for the next year or so, the majority of games should run fine on OUYA so I don't know what the whole deal is by requiring so much more power than needed.

I have not tested it yet, so I'm not going to offer any advice, but once I sideload the netflix app I will be able to comment on it's streaming capabilities. Everything else, I'm pretty satisfied with the product and thinking heavily on selling my Apple TV 3

From a hardware standpoint, the OUYA is a Smartphone in a small console box - I can compare it to anything that shares the same hardware. Smartphones, tablets, TV Boxes and the OUYA are all the exact same thing in different boxes and configurations - what you're saying is that I shouldn't compare desktops and laptops because laptops are portable.

As for the price point, take note of the fact that the OUYA doesn't have a screen, an internal battery, a GPS module (most phones do), a GSM module (and as such the manufacturer doesn't have to dish out money per unit for frequency usage, field testing etc.), isn't portable ergo requires less miniaturization ergo is easier to manufacture and so on and so forth. I'm also not so far off the mark - these days you can get an Xperia Play for aprox. $130 and while it's considerably weaker hardware, do take note of the fact that you can take it anywhere with you. You pay less for it, yes, but you can also do less with it. Don't get me wrong, it's an okay deal for the money, it's just that you can get better alternatives.

 

[Zetta_x]

From a hardware standpoint, the OUYA is a Smartphone in a small console box - I can compare it to anything that shares the same hardware. Smartphones, tablets, TV Boxes and the OUYA are all the exact same thing in different boxes and configurations - what you're saying is that I shouldn't compare desktops and laptops because laptops are portable.

As for the price point, take note of the fact that the OUYA doesn't have a screen, an internal battery, a GPS module (most phones do), a GSM module (and as such the manufacturer doesn't have to dish out money per unit for frequency usage, field testing etc.), isn't portable ergo requires less miniaturization ergo is easier to manufacture and so on and so forth. I'm also not so far off the mark - these days you can get an Xperia Play for aprox. $130 and while it's considerably weaker hardware, do take note of the fact that you can take it anywhere with you. You pay less for it, yes, but you can also do less with it. Don't get me wrong, it's an okay deal for the money, it's just that you can get better alternatives.

What I meant is not comparing the OUYA hardware with phone hardware, I meant comparing the consumer base. You shouldn't compare the consumer base of people with each other (because they can target different interests).

All I'm saying is I have an OUYA and I have an android RAZR HD phone. I'd rather use my OUYA to do tasks that both my android phone and OUYA can do. And I'm satisfied with my purchase.

 

[IBNobody]

That's not true, it looks like you haven't been to your local supermarket in the last couple of years. Here's something High-End with the added benefit of being portable, on the low-end you have all those "MP5 players" mostly made by our friends at JXD (yes, they are available at normal stores). Some of those come with mini/microHDMI, but if you really, really, really want a Home Console equivalent then again, Android sticks.

Oh c'mon - don't give me that. There's plenty of "Smart TV" boxes out there - the one by Google isn't the only one available and althought they're not "sticks" they still could apply to the Home Console space easily. As for the "tech-savvyness" of the target End-User, you're shooting yourself in the foot - a less tech-savvy user will get an XBox, a PlayStation or a Wii console rather than an indie Android box.

So, I make a point about the lack of an Android set top box and you link a tablet? Bravo. Thanks. How much does said tablet cost? $160? Even better! What stores sell this so that I can try it out? Nowhere?

And these sticks... They are available... where? Online, you say? Hmm... These sticks... They have a brand I can recognize? They have a marketing budget to get me to want to buy them? They have support? Does that support speak English? No? Hmmmmmm...

You rock, dude. I'm regretting buying my OUYA even now.

Seriously... I'll have an easier time convincing my non-techie friends to buy an OUYA from Target than I would if I was trying to convince them to buy some brandless stick off eBay.

Care to find a non-tablet, non-MP3 player, non-Phone Android device that I can walk into a brick-and-mortar store and buy? Right now, my only choice was a GoogleTV, which is overpriced garbage.

The lack of games argument on the PSVita is so old and inaccurate at this point that it's not even funny. Besides, it had plenty of games that I wanted when I bought it and I never really complained about not having anything to play, especially with PSPlus.

Sorry... It's funny because you've announced and got excited about OUYA-quality PS Vita games. I couldn't resist the comparison. I apologize for that low blow.

Too much setup/teardown as in, one cable. Good, good.

Yes! HDMI Cables for Temporary Devices! Everyone LOVES fumbling around the back of their TVs or swapping cables with their BluRay players.

No. That's not for me. I'm part of the "I want to set it up once and not fuck with it again" crowd.

 

[431unknown]

I got an email that mine has shipped can't fucken wait for it to get here.

 

[FAST6191]

Yes! HDMI Cables for Temporary Devices! Everyone LOVES fumbling around the back of their TVs or swapping cables with their BluRay players.

No. That's not for me. I'm part of the "I want to set it up once and not fuck with it again" crowd.

HDMI cables cost less than a pint in a lot of pubs and most TVs have a handful of ports (if not switches hardly break the bank). Engaging "thinking time" (read I went for a piss) I also hit upon the novel solution for portable devices of "leave the cable plugged in".

 

[Rizsparky]

I got an email that mine has shipped can't fucken wait for it to get here.

The excitement will probably die after 20 minutes..

 

[The Milkman]

Foxi, why are you trying to convince these guys the Ouya is a bad console? They told you why they want it, please leave them alone.

-From Germany with Butter, The Milkman.