N64 video issues on HDTV

Discussion in 'Other Consoles & Oldies' started by chavosaur, May 23, 2015.

  1. chavosaur
    OP

    chavosaur Austin Trujillo

    pip Contributor
    4,789
    8,652
    Mar 11, 2012
    United States
    Huntersville, NC
    So yes, I'm trying to use an N64 on a Samsung HDTV. Allow me to circumvent the obvious things first

    >Yes it has Y/R/W cable input and they are plugged in the correct order
    >Yes, I know it will display better on a CRT

    Im just curious if there is any kind of peripheral or cable alternative I can use to get the N64 to display. (Because it's not displaying anything at all)

    I think what I might end up trying is going to Goodwill to find either a baby CRT, or a VCR with video IN and OUT, as those are the best things internet searching has yielded me.

    I just want to know if there are any other alternatives to N64 input, I don't QUITE understand why it is only an n64 issue when my SNES works just fine on the same TV.
     
  2. emmanu888

    emmanu888 6 years and still going strong

    Member
    1,283
    411
    Jan 25, 2009
    Canada
    Victoriaville,Québec
    First off what's going on with the video output? I plugged my sis N64 on my TV before and its a Samsung TV as well and i never had troubles.

    But instead of a VCR why not try those AV switchers that lets you switch between three inputs?
     
  3. chavosaur
    OP

    chavosaur Austin Trujillo

    pip Contributor
    4,789
    8,652
    Mar 11, 2012
    United States
    Huntersville, NC
    Well that's the thing.
    There is no output. Nothing
    Nada
    Zip

    I can try and get an AV switcher I suppose, I'm just trying to get a grasp on what I ought to try to get the little thing working.
     
  4. acidmango

    acidmango Advanced Member

    Newcomer
    87
    30
    Nov 8, 2014
    Canada
    some HDTV's can't handle 240P resolutions (N64, Megadrive, SNES, etc)
    The easiest way to get it to display is to run the N64 through another device first that outputs to the TV in 480i. Like a DVD Recorder or VCR.

    If you want the best quality though, you should look into getting a line doubler.

    Some AV Switchers do NOT change the signal to 480i, they just re-route.

    strange that your SNES works.
    Might be a faulty cable
    Have you tried your SNES using the N64 cable?
     
    chavosaur likes this.
  5. Coto

    Coto GBAtemp Addict

    Member
    2,366
    416
    Jun 4, 2010
    Chile
    the N64 bilinear filter makes things blurry tbh.

    You can pretty much solder some cables and get S-VIDEO.

    Or RGB mod (if n64 rev v4 (csync circuitry must be redone), rev 3 ok, rev 2 ok, rev 1 ok).

    I just did my N64 RGB mod and looks gorgeous, so I have two units:

    one having s-video | composite video and the other RGB mod :P
     
  6. MarioFanatic64

    MarioFanatic64 The guy who does things

    Member
    1,267
    617
    Sep 13, 2009
    A few years ago, I had a similar problem. One specific TV didn't like my N64. After turning it on, there might be one frame of image on the screen, but then it just disappears.

    I couldn't figure out the problem, as all my other consoles worked fine on it.
     
  7. Hanafuda

    Hanafuda GBAtemp Advanced Maniac

    Member
    1,890
    672
    Nov 21, 2005
    United States


    What you're describing there are component inputs on the TV. N64 doesn't have component out. With a stock, unmodded console you can get composite or S-video from it. You'd need some kind of S-video to component (or s-video to HDMI) converter, plus an S-video cable for the console. As noted above the extreme option is to rgb mod the console (see, e.g, retrorgb.com) and then use a scaling device (XRGB mini Framemeister) to upscale the signal from 240p to 720p or 1080p.

    Or you could get an old CRT.

    It's a sucky situation.
     
  8. emmanu888

    emmanu888 6 years and still going strong

    Member
    1,283
    411
    Jan 25, 2009
    Canada
    Victoriaville,Québec

    Yellow/Red/White is RCA which is Composite.
     
  9. Hanafuda

    Hanafuda GBAtemp Advanced Maniac

    Member
    1,890
    672
    Nov 21, 2005
    United States


    oh yeah. wtf was i thinking? durrrrrrrrrrrrrr.

    but if OP's not getting any video from the N64 over the yellow video input, then he needs to test composite signal(s) from other device(s). It's either the N64, the cable, or the TV. Process of elimination.
     
  10. chavosaur
    OP

    chavosaur Austin Trujillo

    pip Contributor
    4,789
    8,652
    Mar 11, 2012
    United States
    Huntersville, NC
    To post some updates, I just tried it with my SNES cable.

    The SNES shows up when I plug it in via composite.

    Using the same cable on the N64, nothing shows up.

    ALSO worth mentioning that the original cable the N64 has, I tried using THAT on my SNES and nothing showed up either, which is odd. I'm starting to wonder if it's an AV issue with the console itself, as I also tried the RF cable with the console, and it didn't work either.

    I'll keep attempting solutions for now, but as of right now I can report that

    >My SNES works on this TV
    >My NES worked on this TV
    >My Playstation ONE works on this TV

    So I have no idea why this N64 refuses to work.
     
  11. Nemmay

    Nemmay Member

    Newcomer
    14
    0
    Jan 4, 2015
    United States
    Hm, have you tested the console on another TV? There's a few things it could be if it were the console itself, but test it and let us know first.

    Also, marshallh, the guy who designed the 64drive, is working on an hdmi board you can solder up in an N64 to get it to output in hdmi.
     
  12. Catastrophic

    Catastrophic Perfectly Normal

    Member
    706
    519
    Apr 28, 2012
    Somewhere
    I can't wait for it. I wish it would come out soon. :unsure:

    This may be a silly question, but did you make sure that the cartridge connectors are all clean and in contact? I don't believe the TV would display anything if the console doesn't detect the cartridge.
     
  13. chavosaur
    OP

    chavosaur Austin Trujillo

    pip Contributor
    4,789
    8,652
    Mar 11, 2012
    United States
    Huntersville, NC
    Yea I took a Cotton Swab and got all the funk out of the carts. Some were still surprisingly clean, only my DK64 cart was like, dust galore. I think the games themselves are fine, I'm going to go to this Retro Games shop later and have them test it to see if it's all working, or if I'll just need to replace the little guy.

    If it works in their TV, I'll know then that my TV is probably the issue.

    I only have 2 TV's in the house that even take component input, and it didn't work on either of those TV's... So they'll test it on a CRT and we'll know for sure what's going on then.
     
  14. acidmango

    acidmango Advanced Member

    Newcomer
    87
    30
    Nov 8, 2014
    Canada
    Composite*

    That's reallllllly strange that your SNES didn't output using the N64 cable :wtf:
    The next thing I was gonna ask is if your N64 is NTSC or PAL and if the TV is the same format.
     
  15. Snugglevixen

    Snugglevixen Fox Princess

    Member
    628
    213
    Feb 17, 2015
    New Zealand
    My den
    Does the N64 work with the SNES cable?

    Also, check that the Expansion Pak (or Jumper Pak) is in all the way, you may need to reinsert it. Same with the game you want to play.
    I got a Japanese N64 recently and I thought it wasn't working so I got out my only other NTSC game, (a NISB Mega Man 64), unscrewed the back (mint condition ruined forever D: ) and booted it up and it worked so I kept trying with my other game till it worked. Another time I had trouble booting one of my N64s and it was because the Jumper Pak (I have 1 Expansion Pak between 2 N64s don't judge!!) wasn't in right.
    There is an official N64 cleaning kit with various cleaners for cartridges, controller paks and their corresponding ports that might help with games that don't boot. I got one for $20 unused a couple of years ago.