Gaming Ignore certain files when booting/load native graphics driver?

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I have a problem and I know how to fix it probably, but I don't know how to do it. I need the PC to revert to using its native graphics driver, meaning no downloaded one for the card, but the basic windows driver. The other option is to make the computer ignore or delete the ATI folder when booting, which is essentially the same. It can be done through the f10 option, where you see "[ /NOEXECUTE=OPTION /MININT]" if you keep pressing it between the boot and win loading, right? The thing is, what should I write? My ATI folder is on E:/ATI. I've C:/, D):/, E:/, and Vistas are installed on E:/.

Nothing else is on E:/ except Windows and all drivers required for it to run. (though I'm not sure if ATI is in E:/Windows/ATI or just E:/ATI, but I can try both anyway.)


(Note: When I keep pressing f10 until the [ /NOEXECUTE=OPTION /MININT] appers, it doesn't appear like this, it just says
[ /NOEXECUTE=OPTIN]. Either it's because I press f10 all the time until it appears, or there's something up with the registry, so it can be fixed maybe through registry as well. I can't boot in safe mode or normal mode, because all the time when Vistas are supposed to load, I just get a black screen where I can move the cursor. No sounds, I don't even hear the Vista loading sound and the see the logo. although if I keep a combination of buttons pressed, I do hear few beeps which then stop (coming from the monitor speakers).)



*what happened+more details*
I installed new driver for ATI, 10-10. I had before 10-3. But I didn't want it, so I uninstalled it, and installed 10-3(new), which I downloaded from the ATI website. Then I twice did system restore, and both times after I logged in, the screen was black where I could just move the white mouse cursor. However pressing ctrl+alt+delete brought up the login screen, where I switched on the task manager, and through it, I looked at the ATI folder. There was three subfolders, including all three drivers - the original 10-3, the latest 10-10 driver and the 10-3(new)driver which I downloaded and installed after I uninstalled the newest one. Important fact: the two 10-3 folders had different names, the new one was identical with the 10-10, except that it had the three instead of the ten there and both were longer than the old 10-3. eg.
10-3 vista cc dd
10-10 vista cc dd olt eng
10-3 vista cc dd olt eng
Now, when I deleted the two newest folders (10-3/new and 10-10), suddenly the background, the start bar and everything appreared and was back to normal.

So I did another system recovery, it was exactly the same thing, I solved it the same way. And after a third one, instead of doing the deletion of the two files, I turned off the PC using the power switch, and instead even the login screen is now black, so I can't login and do the task manager and delete the two folders trick. Any ideas? How I can get into the PC, or anything like how to make it ignore the ATI folder/revert to old graphics card?

Win CD inside does boot, but all I get is the bluegreen background with no options, just the moving white cursor. System recovery through f10 also does nothing. And when the system loads up, and the login screen is supposed to appear, you don't even hear the sound tadadadaaaa or see the logo appear, it all just blanks out, then goes darker black and the cursor appears.

Thanks for any tips!
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If you can't boot into safe mode, I don't know what to tell you as far as trying to repair the system install goes.
The F10 system restore doesn't work you said? Are you sure it isn't Alt+F10 or similar combination? My Acer laptop is Alt+F10 to run the full factory-set system restoration.

If that isn't any help, and no one else offers any better help, I really must suggest you try installing Windows 7 if the computer is known to be powerful enough to run Vista. It is so much more reliable and easier to fix.
 

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The safe mood boots, I just get a black screen though. And yes, you can choose system restore from F10 as well, it boots up the latest functional system, however in my case it didn't do anything. I haven't tried factory settings yet, because I can still use something like Ubuntu and from there backup my files or delete the the two folders by joining the Win partition to it, right?
 

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Fel said:
So I did another system recovery, it was exactly the same thing, I solved it the same way. And after a third one, instead of doing the deletion of the two files, I turned off the PC using the power switch, and instead even the login screen is now black, so I can't login and do the task manager and delete the two folders trick. Any ideas? How I can get into the PC, or anything like how to make it ignore the ATI folder/revert to old graphics card?

Win CD inside does boot, but all I get is the bluegreen background with no options, just the moving white cursor. System recovery through f10 also does nothing. And when the system loads up, and the login screen is supposed to appear, you don't even hear the sound tadadadaaaa or see the logo appear, it all just blanks out, then goes darker black and the cursor appears.

Holy crap, I wish I had read all that from inside the spoiler more carefully the first time I tried to give you advice.
If you cannot boot to a Win CD, I am not sure that any kind of LiveCD will help though it will still be worth a try to do it with Ubuntu. Try to use a disk integrity scanner, I am not familiar enough with Ubuntu anymore to tell you exactly what to run, but you need to run a hard disk integrity scanner in a full or thorough mode and have it set to attempt to automatically fix errors and repair bad sectors. Forcing power off is likely the cause of your trouble, although what you did or failed to do before you did that, has a lot to do with why forcing off the PC has caused you these headaches. The only thing I'm really certain of based on all you say is that almost all of your recovery resources were damaged, and as it is, not much can be done.

1. If possible, successfully load a LiveCD like Ubuntu and attempt to recover any and all damage done to hard disk as well as confirm that the video card itself isn't actually broken. Also copy files from your Vista partition if that's possible to make sure they are backed up!
2. A factory settings system restore, hopefully after backing up files from Vista if that was possible.

3. If you can't manage to get the display working properly with any type of restore/liveCD media, try to explain what problems you encounter
 

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Okay, thanks, I will try loading Ubuntu and Gdpartition, to see if I can delete those two files and run a repair, then load it up if it will work.

Video card itself should be prefectly fine, since I was just unistalling/installing drivers, but never deleted it. Also, I can run boot XP CD, however it says that I keep inputting the wrong password, so I can't do the repair from there. It's just the Vista CD that's stuck, though it's strange.
 
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