Epstein had no client list!

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I doubt he is on it

I have no doubt at all that he's on it. Just read this:

Defendant Trump initiated sexual contact with Plaintiff at four different parties.
On the fourth and final sexual encounter with Defendant Trump, Defendant Trump tied Plaintiff
to a bed, exposed himself to Plaintiff, and then proceeded to forcibly rape Plaintiff. During the
course of this savage sexual attack, Plaintiff loudly pleaded with Defendant Trump to stop but
with no effect. Defendant Trump responded to Plaintiff’s pleas by violently striking Plaintiff in
the face with his open hand and screaming that he would do whatever he wanted. [...]
Immediately following this rape, Defendant Trump threatened Plaintiff that, were
she ever to reveal any of the details of the sexual and physical abuse of her by Defendant Trump,
Plaintiff and her family would be physically harmed if not killed. [...]
During this period, Plaintiff was a minor of age 13 and
was legally incapable under New York law of consenting to sexual intercourse and the other
sexual contacts detailed herein


Source: https://cdn.factcheck.org/UploadedFiles/Johnson_TrumpEpstein_Lawsuit.pdf

You can find this document in various places on the web. You just have to look for: Case 1:16-cv-07673-RA
Didn't you know this existed, or do you just not believe in court documents?

I really wonder how anyone can still defend the orange disgrace. I really hope you didn't knew about it, yet. Everyone who voted for this rapist and felon is part of the problem.
 
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I have no doubt at all that he's on it. Just read this:






Source: https://cdn.factcheck.org/UploadedFiles/Johnson_TrumpEpstein_Lawsuit.pdf

You can find this document in various places on the web. You just have to look for: Case 1:16-cv-07673-RA
Didn't you know this existed, or do you just not believe in court documents?

I really wonder how anyone can still defend the orange disgrace. I really hope you didn't knew about it, yet. Everyone who voted for this rapist and felon is part of the problem.
What do you mean believe in court documents? Are you not aware what court documents are? Anyone can file a lawsuit, Trump wasn't convicted in this case, the case was dismissed a month after it was filled. So if I start a lawsuit against you and claim you raped a bunch of girls, does that mean you are guilty just because court documents exist?

By the way

A July investigation by The Guardian said that the lawsuits appeared to be organized by Norm Lubow, "who has been associated in the past with a range of disputed claims involving celebrities including OJ Simpson and Kurt Cobain." Another prominent promoter of Doe's accusation was conservative, Never-Trump activist Steve Baer.

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Okay, so, just to reiterate: your argument is that saying that he'd releasing the Epstein files, and then not releasing the Epstein files would end him. That there is no way he could say he was gonna do it for a boost in support and then not do it, the risk is just too high.

... He literally just did all of that, and you're defending him for it. Some conservatives are mad but as usual plenty are willing to turn a blind eye.

In other news, Trump just blatantly lied about the US having a trade deficit with Brazil. It actually has a pretty large trade surplus. He can say whatever he wants that he thinks will appeal to his base, no one will stop him.
No, my argument is that if he knew he was on the Epstein files, he would never even bring up the possibility of releasing them because that would destroy him. Literally just like Biden did, Kamala also did not bring up Epstein a single time during her campaign. Why would neither of them bring it up if they knew Trump was meaningfully involved? Why would Trump of all people be the one to bring it up when their opponents were not talking about it if he knew he could not actually release them because he was there? Which Biden had 100% access to and thus would be aware. Do you even understand the nonsensical fan-fiction you are creating? He also didn't need "a boost in support", there had been multiple polls before election and the economy was the #1 concern for all voters, the people who actually care about Epstein despite what people who spend too much time in online bubbles think, is an incredibly minuscule part of the voting population.

The rest of your argument is just your interpretation of what Trump would do, irrelevant, this is the problem here, every time I argue with leftists I am not arguing on any logical basis, it's just their deranged caricature view of Trump and what they think he would do. There is nothing else to argue because you will just reply with "nu uh Trump would totally do that", ok sure.
 
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I would rather believe a never convicted non-criminal 13 year old girl than a convicted felon and rapist, but maybe that's just me. You probably don't know this but statistics usually say: one time a pedophile/rapist, always a pedophile/rapist. Just because the case was dismissed doesn't prove that the orange turd is innocent. If you look into his past you will soon notice that this guy never had a woman he didn't pay for ... including the current First Lady of the United States. Orange turd was even having paid sex with a former porn star while the lady (his wife) he paid for (too) was carrying his baby. So now tell me: do you see a scheme here? Do you remember: "grab them by the pussy?" You really want to defend this guy? Maybe you start to realize now why the Epstein files will also not be published by your beloved fascist Administration (although they made a hell of a fuss about it and promised multiple times to release them) ... maybe because the claim of that girl would be proven then? Isn't it strange that Bondi is lying about all of this suddenly? One time she said she had the list on her desk and now she claims there's never been a list: one of these statements must be a lie. They just cannot be true both. Simple logic prohibits this.

I think you still haven't learnt yet that there is no such thing as justice in the USA any longer but I made that observation about you multiple times spanning multiple threads here, already. Like the one time you basically said: "fuck due process and fuck the constitution" while you still believe the constitution and law will protect your legal status:rolleyes:
 
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Ok sure, believe what you want.

Lawsuits are not convictions, end of story. Also that lawsuit was dropped in 2016 when Obama was president, was there no such thing as justice then either or what are you even saying?

How am I supposed to argue with your ramblings and beliefs?
 
Ok sure, believe what you want.

Lawsuits are not convictions, end of story. Also that lawsuit was dropped in 2016 when Obama was president, was there no such thing as justice then either or what are you even saying?

How am I supposed to argue with your ramblings and beliefs?

How is anyone supposed to have a good faith discussion with an individual who doesn't even understand the meaning of the word ramblings?
 
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Because if he was it would have already been used against him during Biden's term. So either he isn't, or literally everyone is and that is why either side would rather try to jail each other in any way that doesn't involve the Epstein case because then both would face consequences.

Also Trump cut ties with Epstein on the early 2000s for being a creep in Mar-A-Lago, you can cope that this is because he didn't want the heat on him or whatever, but pretending like they were in good terms recently is just outright lying.



Same cope that has been used over and over. Every billionaire knew and dealt with Epstein one way or another, and Trump cut ties with Epstein long ago, it doesn't mean anything.

Doesn't it strike you as odd that Trump would run on "Cleaning up corruption" and that his DOJ claimed they would release the Epstein files if Trump was on it to begin with? why would he do that? It makes more sense he would just literally not say or do anything related to Epstein, like Biden did, what you are claiming doesn't make any sense logistically.

Personally? I think it is more likely that too many powerful people related to banking, corporations, royalty, etc are tied to it, it would outright collapse the economy, bring entire companies down, wipe out banks if the truth came out, which would obviously not be good for republicans since people always vote on the economy despite what you think are the important issues, economy is always #1. I think Trump underestimated how many people would be implicated and the damage it would cause and he simply chose the alternative, but I do think he should have straight up said this instead of trying to imply it isn't important or lash out with "Wow we are still talking about Epstein? move on", that was a horrible move lol.

Regardless, what you need to understand is that no one takes you seriously when you try to imply all of this is just to cover for Trump, that is outright TDS speaking.

Either there really is nothing and this is a case of mass hysteria, or it goes so deep that no one will dare reveal the truth because the damage will be catastrophic and a lot of people would die as a result. Stop trying to reduce it to it revolving around a single person (on either side of the political spectrum).

Also you're just a straight up idiot if you think the US president is the most powerful person on the planet lol, if you're going to go all in on conspiracies then you can't say surface level normie shit like this. Or are you pretending JFK was actually killed by some random loony who acted alone?
If I wasn’t convinced your account wasn’t being run by a 3 letter agency, I am convinced now. It’s strange how a dead account randomly came back to life just to turn out like this
 
If I wasn’t convinced your account wasn’t being run by a 3 letter agency, I am convinced now. It’s strange how a dead account randomly came back to life just to turn out like this
Not sure what he's saying, and don't really care. I advise you to have the same attitude. Block the deplorable who's still covering for pedophiles and move on.
 
There were no announcements that a list exists, nor that he was killed. It was just speculation and is what everyone (me included) wanted to think. "Epstein files" and an actual list are two different things, the later would be pretty stupidly hilarious if it existed.
This reads to me like copium.

Anyway, Epstien still didn't kill himself and the FBI and DOJ are still covering something up.
 
Does it look like we give a fuck?
Oh no, not at all lol


Leftists are one of two kinds:

1-. young people (will get over it once they get out of college and their real lives begin)

2-. Failed adults whose lives never started and without the government they would die
 
Oh no, not at all lol

No point in mentioning it then

You may find it as a "tragedy" but unless he is actively a bad person or someone dangerous I don't even see the point of trying to point out something so obvious:

He is weird, deal with it, you are on a niche warez adjacent forum

It says more about your character that you feel the need to go for something so cheap lol
 
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Oh no, not at all lol


Leftists are one of two kinds:

1-. young people (will get over it once they get out of college and their real lives begin)

2-. Failed adults whose lives never started and without the government they would die
And people who practice the community values Jesus taught us.

Not sure what this has to do with the FBI apparently grabbing and jailing someone off the street and making a high profile trafficking case without any information.
 
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You're half way there! Just have to put on your thinking cap!

Trump puts in a loyalist flunky into the head of the FBI, which he is 100% not qualified for. Then, said loyalist lies for him. Not exactly difficult to see. He also puts in a podcaster as the 2nd in command, who ALSO lies.

So now I pose a question back to you: The Trump administration said that the cameras were broken when Epstein died. Why would they bother saying that? Now Kash is changing the story to say that there IS video of it (But of course it'll never be released). Critical thinking time!
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Sorry, it could have been taken as a 'He couldn't have done that because it would be too incriminating' type of way. 申し訳ないです、ヤンキーさん。
But yes, client lists are common practice in trafficking. They hide the lists away, but they need them to stay organized.
Remember the whole Snowden thing? We only even got to know of all of that wild stuff because he managed to flee and himself was the said "list." This list, if it hasn't been long, long-burned down, sits behind billions of corrupt dollarini and likely won't see the light of day. In general, especially today, you can only fight massive power with a massive power of your own be it money, influence, or being some kinda literal 007 being able to obtain and get away with the dirt on any of the corrupt top. If we find Epstein's killer, it'll be some lowly hire who'll go down like all of such do and this elusive list will stay dead and buried. That's the hard reality of today.
 
My contention with your post is that it was a misrepresentation of the doctrine of substitutionary atonement presented in Scripture. I cannot assert a biblically orthodox position that differs from your strawman without citing the Bible. Honestly, I would not have responded if the strawman was not presented. I don't have much problem with anyone disagreeing with the Bible as long as they do not misrepresent it. I have no power to convince you of its truthfulness. I can merely present the gospel as it is presented in Scripture. It's not unlike the parable of the sower in Matt. 13:1-23, Mark 4:1-20, and Luke 8:4-15.
I'm not going to bother replying to this here. This thread is about people immorally protecting pedophiles. The church would know nothing of that.......

We can not bother the other people here:
 
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This list, if it hasn't been long, long-burned down, sits behind billions of corrupt dollarini and likely won't see the light of day. In general, especially today, you can only fight massive power with a massive power of your own be it money, influence, or being some kinda literal 007
Ironically it sounds like only Elon could do this sort of thing. I wonder what the average poster here would think of him then lol.
 
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Oh no, not at all lol


Leftists are one of two kinds:

1-. young people (will get over it once they get out of college and their real lives begin)

2-. Failed adults whose lives never started and without the government they would die
I like how you resorted to personal attacks when I called out your fed post. Anyways, I am a mental health professional with a lovely wife, a college education, and a career slowly moving towards politics. I don't live on any government subsidies.
You keep calling me a "Leftist," which makes it very apparent you have no idea what that word even means. I understand most Trump supporters assume everyone left of hunting the homeless for sport are "Leftists," but that's really just showing that either you live on social media or my assumption that you are a fed continues to be correct. Either way, I am going to cuddle my wife and work on a Magic deck with her.

On topic, Epstein definitely had a list, Trump was obviously on it, Epstein didn't kill himself, and the government is covering this shit up for the current and former presidents on the list.
 
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