Digitial Bill UK

[Am0s]

So much bullshit from this thing, for those who do not know what this is read here

http://www.eweekeurope.co.uk/news/lords-di...ck-youtube-5666

2 weeks for holuse of commons and if passed then UK will get Censored internet like other countries like china and what not, I hope people riot over this shit

 

[emigre]

I don't think there's really any time for this to get passes. The election coming soon and Mandy's in vital in Labour's election campaign.

 

[xist]

This would also spell the end of file hosting sites such as Megaupload and Rapidshare etc...

 

[Am0s]

I read an article online saying there is a chance it can become law just before parliment is dissolved

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2010/mar/0...-pushed-through

I hope it gets held up in the commons and is too late to get put into law

 

[emigre]

If it gets passed before Parliament is dissolved,the chances are that it isn't well written. I'll be honest I haven't actually been up to date on this, but knowing New Labour they should have almost certainly fucked up writing this up somewhere. I wonder how internet providers are going ot cope with this. If somebody fillibuster this or the House of Lords delay this again than it could be ok. All I can really say is this big business on owning government shocker.

 

[Am0s]

well 1 of the nasty clauses are still in it where they have the power to disconnect your inet permanently and even prosecute you, and they want to pass the costs onto the ISP so I guess costs are going to go up. If they find a suspect file sharer they have to pass that info onto the rights holder, which alot of ISP's are not happy with, but talk talk CEO has said he will refuse to pass on details.

IF this bill does pass then I would like to see PC world get fined or somthing because they promote downloading movies and streaming it to the TV as in their adverts

This bill is bad news for everyone its the end of free speech on the inet as we speak.


pitty we couldnt get offshore internet accounts haha

 

[prowler]

“For the first time, Sony and the rest can now go to court and demand that every ISP in the UK blocks YouTube,”

Goodbye YouTube

 

[Maz7006]

“For the first time, Sony and the rest can now go to court and demand that every ISP in the UK blocks YouTube,”

Goodbye YouTube

you could always run a reverse SSH tunnel

always done the trick.

im still guessing a standard proxy would do well, provided its a good one.

 

[kicknhorse]

Even if parliament do, for some reason, adopt such a thing. We stand a second chance in the House of Lords.

So we will be safe at least for a few years, until something like the Hunting Ban happens where they can by-pass the House of Lords but using, is it the Parent Act?

EDIT:

But then look at this

Almost four in five people around the world believe that access to the internet is a fundamental right, a poll for the BBC World Service suggests.

The survey - of more than 27,000 adults across 26 countries - found strong support for net access on both sides of the digital divide.

Countries such as Finland and Estonia have already ruled that access is a human right for their citizens.

It may be interesting to some. Source: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8548190.stm

 

[kicknhorse]

(Second box due to confusion with the boxes)

The House of Lords have already rejected the Digital Bill.

The government has been defeated in the House of Lords over measures to tackle online piracy after opponents said the plans could hamper digital innovation.

If you like source: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8549112.stm

Oh wait... It is not all good though...

 

[Am0s]

they was defeated about clause 17 which gave many a right to change the copyright law, so now in the lords they changed it so high court can block websites

I did find this todday and is rather worrying
http://newsblog.thecmuwebsite.com/post/Med...ll-make-it.aspx

all labour has to do to get the bill past the commons is to ammend or remove the part the tories dont like, then free speech will go out the door, personally if sites like youtube snotr are blocked from us then it will be a sad sad day. That would mean when my 5yr old son wants to see trains or shuttle lifing off I wont be able to show him.

I was looking into a proxy to get round blocked sites, proxies are soooo slow tho

 

[steve-p]

too many laws already,
i dont recognise any of them!

i'll respect the law when the Police start to uphold the TREASON ACT.!!!

carrying out act's that are damaging to the country on behalf of a forougn government or organisation = treason.

well that fit's just about every thing they do!!!

 

[f3ar000]

you could use ultrasurf or some similar program
the ultrareach program has a solution to the Chinese web block

 

[Law]

Just goes to show that those old men shouldn't be running this country anymore.

 

[Am0s]

lol I read on another site they want to target megaupload and rapidshare aswell now, whats next usenet?

I like how they want to dick everyone but when they exploit the expenses system not one of them get done for fraud.

 

[Am0s]

ok so now this shit is entering wash up, for those people who dont know what it is, its

"It is the term used to describe the negotiations between the parties to decide which bills will survive at the end of the parliamentary session and which will not"

so when this bill enters UK law, shits gonna hit the fan, hopefully riots in london as this has clearly side stepped democracy

Source

 

[KevInChester]

The holuse (sic) of commons and being like China? A tad dramatic eh - the Internet is not being censored as such, there will however be a crackdown on filesharing.

Comparing a crackdown on filesharing to the type of censorship happening in China shows to me you've not understood the point at all.

I'm against this bill, I believe it is merely locking the stable door after the horse has already bolted. Better and cheaper means to legally acquire digital goods are needed - bundle a certain amount with ISP accounts. Perhaps reward you with x amount of free downloads per concert ticket or album purchased. Provide incentives don't criminalise.

 

[Deleted_171835]

Wow. That sucks.

Luckily, we don't have laws like that in Canada. Internet censorship is horrible.

 

[Am0s]

The holuse (sic) of commons and being like China? A tad dramatic eh - the Internet is not being censored as such, there will however be a crackdown on filesharing.

Comparing a crackdown on filesharing to the type of censorship happening in China shows to me you've not understood the point at all.

I'm against this bill, I believe it is merely locking the stable door after the horse has already bolted. Better and cheaper means to legally acquire digital goods are needed - bundle a certain amount with ISP accounts. Perhaps reward you with x amount of free downloads per concert ticket or album purchased. Provide incentives don't criminalise.


of course it will mean censored internet, some people are suggesting that it will be far worse that chinese censorship, if sites like rapidshare and megaupload youtube and snotr are blocked then that is censorship in itself., Its a crackdown on filesharing but has other impacts too thats where the censorship comes in, I do fully understand it and I am right about this, its just the sleepy british public need to rise up.

so many articles on this on google have a look if you dont believe me, latest was open rights groups demoing in london, and another on april 1st, disonnection of the interent for persitant file sharing and possible court cases.

Censorship

http://www.eweekeurope.co.uk/news/lords-di...ck-youtube-5666

found a nice little quote
QUOTEThis isn’t about file sharing or fighting for your right to download dodgy MP3s. It’s about much more than that.

It’s about stopping a law that could bring libel-style censorship to UK ISPs, forcing them to block the next YouTube on copyright owners’ say-so - with no penalties for organisations making misguided or malicious accusations. It’s not hard to imagine politically awkward sites such as Wikileaks ending up on the blocklist too.

It’s about stopping a law that would make cafes and libraries, and anywhere that offers a free Wi-Fi service including your school or college, responsible for their users’ activities, seen in many cases now, which would bring an abrupt end to open Wi-Fi…

 

[ProtoKun7]

Wow. That sucks.

Luckily, we don't have **** like that in ******. ******** ******ship is ********.

Sorry, what was that?