Decision 2008

Discussion in 'General Off-Topic Chat' started by .TakaM, Sep 9, 2008.

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Who are/would you vote for?

  1. Obama (American)

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  2. Obama (Non-American)

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  3. Mccain (American)

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  1. .TakaM
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    .TakaM .II

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    I know most of you have already voted in several topic polls exactly like this at other places, but I'm curious as to the results of GBAtemp.

    And I know this will most likely turn into a debate, but please keep it civil guys.
    And if a mod should need to lock this topic or something, could you please keep the poll active if possible?


    Thanks guys [​IMG]
     
  2. juggernaut911

    juggernaut911 GBAtemp Slut!

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    McCain! [​IMG]

    McCain gives funny speeches though!
     
  3. Dwight

    Dwight Gawb. Gawb Bluth.

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    Obama Biden
    Looks like Osama Bin laden at first glance
     
  4. kikuchiyo

    kikuchiyo 大阪に生まれた男

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    This is why America is the awesome-est country on Earth.

    Take that Tanzania!

    America!!! Yeah!!!

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  5. DeMoN

    DeMoN GBAtemp Guru

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    I'm American and would vote for Obama. But I'm too lazy to do so, I took one look at the registration form then walked away.
     
  6. alltooamorous

    alltooamorous Advanced Member

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    What is the average age of members on GBAtemp? Obama appeals to younger people, but most people don't really know about his policies..
     
  7. falcon64z8

    falcon64z8 GBAtemp Fan

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    Obama all the way! I want a democrat back in office.
     
  8. apb407

    apb407 GBAtemp Fan

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    Yeah i mean Obama really is for the youngins i mean during the BET awards, and MTV VMAs they kept saying vote Obama all the way and they kept making fun of Mccain
     
  9. atomiccow

    atomiccow Advanced Member

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    If this is any reflection of what is actually going to happen (by that, I mean Obama winning by a landslide) then we're all screwed.

    [/politics on a game forum]
     
  10. Dwight

    Dwight Gawb. Gawb Bluth.

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    If you go on any major forum that isn't strictly republican or anything, you should notice that Obama is usually the more popular of the two. I heard that he was against Net Neurality, so that might by why the internet loves him...
     
  11. xDahlia

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    I don't give a shit. It's America ==". /Obamaftw
     
  12. .TakaM
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    Plus I have yet to meet anyone (Non-American) in favour of Mccain, I thought a few of my conservative friends might, but nope, they liked obama too
     
  13. Rayder

    Rayder Mostly lurking lately....

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    Can't vote in this poll......I plan to write in "No confidence".
     
  14. Mewgia

    Mewgia drifter

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    this is the cancer that is killing democracy
     
  15. TanookiSuit

    TanookiSuit Game Reviewer/Writer -- formerly Vampire Hunter D

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    Wow this poll shows two things. A younger age group who is less informed in general posts here, and the obvious that foreigners prefer democrats which is no surprise either. The only odd part is that self-proclaimed conservatives from abroad wanting anything to do with Obama as he's very much a guy into socialist-democracy type management.

    I wish more people would look into the policies, not the celeb value of any candidate as it may be a real shock value thing.
     
  16. Mewgia

    Mewgia drifter

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    More people than you think do look into their policies, though...

    I still find Obama to be superior to McCain....
     
  17. 754boy

    754boy :D

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    Obama > McGramps [​IMG]
     
  18. TanookiSuit

    TanookiSuit Game Reviewer/Writer -- formerly Vampire Hunter D

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    Well I can see how you could think that about Obama but I can't agree due to his stupid fiscal policies. He touts so well about lowering the taxes on 95% and raising on the upper 5%. He talks about when the economy is straight only rolling back the bush tax cuts back to the Clinton era on top of that. He also talked about how he wants capital gains taxes significantly raised. It all sounds nice, but if you look into the costs it'll hurt US not that upper 5% the most.

    On the capital gains tax, that's primarily on stocks. Thanks to this new age of Ameritrade, etc and the simple fact most companies go the 401K route via stock against the old days of a retirement package it's bad news. Every lower-middle and up person within a company that's not retail likely have 401ks tied to stock, so you'll end up paying a lot more on how the stock does each year, and grossly have more cut if you ever cash it out one day. The rolling back of the bush tax cuts is the one part he's factually fair on in that it mostly did apply not to business but people, and we had a good dollar on our paychecks then so that's mostly cool. The punishing the upper 5% though that's what'll screw us. The issue there is that if you raise say taxes 20% on the upper 5% to be 'fair' to socialistically redistribute wealth elsewhere is anyone that naive to think that the rich will tolerate it? No. How will it get handled? Easy...raise prices on food, clothing, utilities, other required needs, and wants. Obama refutes it saying he'll give a $1200 tax credit if I recall right. That's nice, but say if the price of bread now is $2/loaf, and to cover the 20% tax boost that loaf goes to $2.25. Now figure you buy a loaf a week (.25 higher x 52 weeks) and that's $13 more. Doesn't sound much, but if you buy say 10 food items a week (which is unrealistic) that's $130 more a year. Your food budget alone eats up a little more than 10% of your rebate. Now figure in your water, gas, electric, auto fuel, clothing, supplies... $1200 isn't going to cover crap. The rich again will get richer, and you thinking you got a tax break are paying MORE. Really smart idea he's got going there on 'fairness.' He can't legally force companies not to raise prices to offset the taxes so we get our asses kicked, not them.

    That's why I don't like the chump because he has no damn clue how the system works and his tax breaks will be total household income CUTS for us and the rich will keep what they have or get more. That's totally blind and outright irresponsible. McCain though wants to keep the bush tax cuts mostly, cut some wasteful pork out of the system and shrink the bureaucracy, and with that cash saved wiggle in some more lower income people tax cuts. That's smart, you're not screwing those who can make you pay more, you're cutting the fat and redistributing it to those in need.
     
  19. Raven Darkheart

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  20. TanookiSuit

    TanookiSuit Game Reviewer/Writer -- formerly Vampire Hunter D

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    News check, we haven't had 4 years of conservative republicanism. If we did it would be like when Gingrich was in there with the switch back in 1994 in the congress. They slashed pork and budgets, cut a lot of the financial bleeding, and along with Clinton signing off on stuff got us into a surplus.

    The republicans and in particular Bush got stupid and spoiled and started spending like crazy without any budgetary accountability accounting for the war basically acting like the 1980s traditional 'tax and spend' democrats which caused the issue. McCain isn't one of those, and honestly with him driving the ship and the dems holding congress we'd be in damn good shape to get the right things passed and the reckless stuff that nut Pelosi and dingy Harry Reid want done that would cause some big financial problems.

    I know the Greenspan link you gave and McCain is talking about cutting the fat so that would cover his system that Greenspan was warning about to be paid for so I got no problems.