Hacking Coding vWii 3-core support - everything you need to know.

[the_randomizer]

Hello there Pot, my name is Kettle.
Ray's reputation is already terrible and every time he opens his mouth it just gets worse, because he can't help making snide comments about others while trying to make himself look like a victim. If he really supported this project he would realize that and shut up, rather than ruin it by association.

Stop derailing the topic, either post something pertaining to the subject at hand or keep your comments to yourself. You're not helping either.

 

[JoostinOnline]

Ray's reputation is already terrible

It depends who you talk to. I hear trolls and flamers love him.

 

[Ray Lewis]

Personal attack, red herring. What does this have to do with not expecting anything major and supporting Maxternal? "I cannot refute Ray so I will attack, go off topic, try to shame him with red herring.". VWii linux is happening, but for the rest, Marcan said there are no guarantees. He mentioned the talks and how they are received may not change this. Hardly flaming him.

 

[Ray Lewis]

It depends who you talk to. I hear trolls and flamers love him.

That is called poisoning the well. Still not related to any assertion I made.

 

[edwardbirkholz05]

Do you even know what a red herring is? It's when you bring up a completely unrelated topic to distract attention. Like mentioning the 3DS decapping fund even though it has nothing to do with fail0verflow. Treat others as you want to be treated? Well you just lied to discredit somebody you claim to respect, so you deserve to be treated like the dishonest prick you are.
You say "I don't trust them" even though all they've done is ignore you. Great logic right there.
"They don't forgive as they want to be forgiven and don't treat others as they want to be treated." You flamed and continue to disrepect them. What did they ever do to you that they should be forgiven for, besides not giving you what you had no right to demand?

 

[JoostinOnline]

Just ignore him.

 

[jammybudga777]

So more and more of you have been asking lately to donate to the Tri-Core Team and Maxternal. Well, now is your chance to not only spread some of that holiday cheer but also to be a part of helping us finish this project SOONER rather than NEVER.

We are in dire need of getting Max his own Wii U. This is very important to the progression and finalization of the Tri-Core Teams Trinux development. Yes, we really are at that point now where this can be finished (almost.) With one in his hands, we believe that these processes could indeed move along with quite a bit more haste and with more stable results. Maxternal has unselfishly and tirelessly worked in his spare time and even while at work, coding, compiling, troubleshooting and coding some more. For the better part of a year of him working on this project, he has asked only for those with the know-how to share their knowledge and for a few others to *bravely* and patiently test and give feedback to his coding and findings, respectively.

If any of you GBTempers out there feel that you will benefit (in it's final form) in any way whatsoever from the work that every person has put into this project, then we please ask that you donate ANY amount that you could possibly spare for us to get this guy hooked up with a Wii U (8GB or 32GB) so we can hook you all up. The sooner we get this to him, the sooner this all will be over. In return, we will update you more frequently and with videos and descriptions of what you are seeing and the progress that is being made.

By clicking this link, your donations go DIRECTLY to Maxternal's PayPal account, not to any other person involved. He is in Costa Rica so his Wii U will be a little more expensive unless someone from the US or Canada is willing to just down right donate one to him, otherwise I believe they go for around $600-$700 there (can anyone say "gaping butt-hole.") The perfect plan would be to buy one in the US through an online retailer and have it shipped to a mail/package forwarding service such as this who in turn will send it to Maxternal for a fraction of the total cost if he had to buy it in Costa Rica full-price. So We are looking for roughly $300 Total to cover the rest of what he needs for his Wii U plus the shipping from here to there.

PM Maxternal with any questions, please, not me. I am not on here frequently enough. Appreciate your time and Merry f'ng Thanksgiving!

i dont mean to sound too rude and i completely agree maxternal needs a wii u. but could we not donate to someone in the uk and then have them ship it over to maxternal?? as the wii u is about 190 pounds here maybe a little more. it would save a nice chunk of money and im sure it would come to no more of a total of 250 pounds (im having a rough guess)

 

[filfat]

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[mcchase]

i dont mean to sound too rude and i completely agree maxternal needs a wii u. but could we not donate to someone in the uk and then have them ship it over to maxternal?? as the wii u is about 190 pounds here maybe a little more. it would save a nice chunk of money and im sure it would come to no more of a total of 250 pounds (im having a rough guess)

CupOfSorrow mentions in the post that buying a console in the 'states and shipping it over to Costa Rica is preferable. Being as Costa Rica is in the continent of America much like the USA we can presume shipping would be cheaper from the USA than it would be from all the way here in the UK in Europe; furthermore I believe (though certainly don't quote me on this!) that the USA has lower VAT on purchases than here in the UK, which means the console should be cheaper to buy initially anyway.

 

[jammybudga777]

CupOfSorrow mentions in the post that buying a console in the 'states and shipping it over to Costa Rica is preferable. Being as Costa Rica is in the continent of America much like the USA we can presume shipping would be cheaper from the USA than it would be from all the way here in the UK in Europe; furthermore I believe (though certainly don't quote me on this!) that the USA has lower VAT on purchases than here in the UK, which means the console should be cheaper to buy initially anyway.

sorry i didnt actually notice that part of the message (im still half asleep lol). and ye thats a good shout i think your right about the VAT so would be cheaper and probable be less time for it to be delivery

 

[marcan_troll]

Guys, let's be realistic here. At the glacial speed at which this project has been moving, if we were to release the Wii U mode exploit, it would take 3 years before a viable, legal homebrew ecosystem existed (and by then nobody would care and we'd have had 2.75 years of piracy).

I appreciate the effort and congratulate Maxternal and co. on getting as far as they got, but getting SMP Linux running (which is still a long way off - the trickiest issues around SMP are with coherency, locking between cores, interprocessor interrupts, etc., and not just turning the other cores on) isn't going to convince us that there is enough developer interest in Wii U mode homebrew. I do encourage you to keep going if you're interested in learning (and I'm sure this will be a great learning experience for all involved), but please do not expect me to go "oh, sorry, I was wrong, here's the Wii U exploit" the minute 'cat /proc/cpuinfo' shows 3 CPUs. I would've been impressed if it happened within 2 weeks, maybe a month, but it's been 6.5 months to code a trivial exploit and get basic Linux brought up (nevermind actually getting SMP to work). I appreciate your perseverance, but you have to realize that this doesn't demonstrate that there is enough developer manpower to make homebrew useful.

Maybe the 30c3 talk will gather more developer interest.

 

[Deletedmember331810]

He is doing it practically by himself... At least you had help...

 

[marcan_troll]

He is doing it practically by himself... At least you had help...

And that is commendable, but one person alone isn't going to be able to get a homebrew ecosystem up and running. It just proves my point that there isn't enough interest.

Remember, ~30 people have access to the Wii U mode exploit, including many veteran Wii homebrewers, and nobody seems interested enough to work on it.

 

[jammybudga777]

and more to the point his done most by himself and with no wii u console in his presents (this could be a main hold up as to why its taken a while).
and also what is it you would expect to come out of people being interested in making homebrew?!?! i only see the use for emulators and maybe making media players around the homebrew scene or even somebody to make there own game. but other then this i dont see what other homebrew would be approached (other then acts piracy)

 

[marcan_troll]

and also what is it you would expect to come out of people being interested in making homebrew?!?! i only see the use for emulators and maybe making media players around the homebrew scene or even somebody to make there own game. but other then this i dont see what other homebrew would be approached (other then acts piracy)

Go look at Wiibrew for examples.

The problem is that most of those ideas have now moved onto platforms other than traditional game consoles which are already open or easier to hack or more ubiquitous, which is (I conjecture) why interest has waned.

 

[Deletedmember331810]

Appreciate all of your love and support, Mr. Martin.

 

[jammybudga777]

[/quote]The problem is that most of those ideas have now moved onto platforms other than traditional game consoles which are already open or easier to hack or more ubiquitous, which is (I conjecture) why interest has waned.[/quote]

ok ye point taken i suppose i was kinda going by my own interests by saying about media players and emulators. and i no times have moved on and all/most programming have gone to phones/android exc. but i thought that maybe with the extra power (3cores exc) that maybe there would be abit more of an interest to use the full power of the console weather it be for piracy or genuine homebrew

 

[jammybudga777]

also no offence too nintendo but this console seems like its gonna be abit of a failure in console sales and game sales. they have released a console with vertually no games on it ..... lol so would piracy be such a bad thing??? if nintendo dont pick up sales soon i can see it falling apart. so with an exploit this would probable mean quite a few more sales but would obviously be a downside on the game developers profit

 

[JoostinOnline]

Go look at Wiibrew for examples.

The problem is that most of those ideas have now moved onto platforms other than traditional game consoles which are already open or easier to hack or more ubiquitous, which is (I conjecture) why interest has waned.

Not for me. I'm half-assing just as many homebrew apps as I did back when Wii homebrew was still popular.

 

[jammybudga777]

its kinda simular to "dealing" (lol). the top dudes have something of interest and something that is much needed by the smaller dude and with out it being passed on or down to the other guys theres no rotation or room for making progress.