OK so I have been at this for about a day. I finally got my wii downgraded to 3.2 in order to run preloader and cioscorps. i thought by now things would be working but surprise, surprise, they arent. I followed the directions given by softmii to get my wii to the point of runing cioscorps ( i dont want themes) but the games still will only load in gamma. As of this point I cannot even boot games from gamma, as these were my last steps: Please bear with me.... the directions from softmii said to install various IOSs to get to the point where the downgrader cold run. CHECK. it then said to down grade. CHECK. update shop channel. CHECK. then it said to install preloader. CHECK. then it said to install CIOScorps and cMIOS. CHECK. now here is where i ended up still with a stock disc channel. A temper via the site chat basically told me the ppl over at softmii are somewhat retarded and their directions are fucked up. he said that CIOSCORPS had to be installed prior to preloader so that preloader can "patch" the CIOSCORPS wads. some crap like that..... he then said to uninstall preloader by installing sysmenu 3.2 (v289 as I have NTSC-U). SO I installed the Mario Kart Update (thinking it would overwrite the renamed sys file made by preloader), i then ran the V289 wad I got from the system repair disc found at hackmii. Currently my wii is now pretty much the way it was when I bought it + all the hacked channels. Gamma is installed but no longer runs backups...... My question is: WHERE DO I GO FROM HERE????? I want to get to the point where my wii can run GC and Wii games from Disc channel and also have preloader. Ive googled and Ive tried over and over but I cant get this stuff sorted >.< HBC TP hack and Gamma was cake but this last stretch of hacks has really done a number on me, HALP! thanks for checking my post and i hope its not too noob as perhaps i over looked something even though i red several versions of the directions i needed, and followed them as closely as possible and looking up contradictions accordingly.... thanks again.