Avengers 4 Spoiler

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  1. zestiva
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    Captain Marvel saved Iron Man in the Universe

    Thor killed Thanos

    Five years later , the Ant Man returned

    Avengers cross to the past to collect unlimited gems

    In 2012 (Avengers1) , Hulk get time gem from Ancient One

    Captain America deceived Hydra to get the space gem (Captain America say Hail Hydra) , Captain America VS past Captain America

    But because a mistake , the space gem was taken away by Loki , Captain America and Iron Man cross back to 1970 to take the space gem at that time

    In 1970 , Captain America meets Peggy , Iron Man meets his father , Stan Lee guest a officer

    Thor sees his mother , gets the reality gem , and takes away the Mjolnir hammer from the past

    Black widow sacrificed herself to get the soul gem

    The plan was known by past Thanos , past Nebula disguised as future Nebula return , as a Trojan Horse

    Hulk use new Infinity Gauntlet resurrect all ash lifes

    The past Thanos brought the army cross to the present

    Captain America + Iron Man + Thor VS Thanos

    Captain America use Mjolnir hammer

    All the resurrected heroes came on to help fight the enemy

    Iron Man grab infinite gems and install them on nano-steel gloves , turning Thanos and his army into ash (I am Iron Man !)

    Iron Man unable to withstand the power of gems , dead (Dr. strange see The only way to win)

    Thor joined Guardians of the Galaxy

    Captain America cross to 1970 life with Peggy

    Finally Old Captain America crossed back , give his shield to Falcon , Falcon inherits Captain America
     
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  2. Snugglevixen

    Snugglevixen Princess of Cuddles

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    How does the movie go about explaining all the obvious time paradoxes?
     
  3. zestiva
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    no explaining
     
  4. Rioluwott

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    Warning: Spoilers inside!
     
  5. Snugglevixen

    Snugglevixen Princess of Cuddles

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    On your lap.
    So he creates another paradox by staying in the past.
     
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    Warning: Spoilers inside!
     
  7. Snugglevixen

    Snugglevixen Princess of Cuddles

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    On your lap.
    Captain America is Trunks.
     
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    Did anyone else find it weird that when Capatain America used Mjolnir, it had lightning? I thought the lightning came from Thor not the hammer?
     
  9. Cyan

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    - I was sad Howard Stark is not played by Dominic Cooper.
    well, the gem is from 1970, right? so Howard is old. but then, Roger sees Peggy Carter, not aged.
    she looks the same as when she played Agent Carter during WWII. so, Howard is old but carter is not?
    Maybe I didn't see well and she wasn't young?


    - one thing I liked is the way they explain time travel. this is what I always thought.
    if you go to the past, this is not the past, but your future, doing things in the past can't undo the present because it's not your past anymore. "that make sense" she said!
    but I didn't like the fact that he stayed in the past, and is old from the same timeline at the end, breaking that idea of not affecting the present.
    The "present" as we know it, always had Carter live alone. we even seen her before she dies, when Roger meet her and she spoke like she is surprised to see him alive and talk about valkyrie war (last time she saw him).
    She has Alzheimer, but the museum is full of videos of her life without steeve.

    If he stayed in the past and it's the same timeline from "our present" (all the MCU chronology is the present's current timeline) then she would remember living with him, valkyrie wouldn't be the last time they saw, they would be married.
    In captain america civil war, carter says "roger saved the man who will finally become my husband", so she didn't marry Roger. unless she married another man but lived with roger? or married both?

    Also, as she also stated (forgot which movie) he can't have a calm life, he needs to be a hero. If he stayed in the past, he wouldn't be able to not act as a hero and would have helped so much that his secret identity wouldn't be that secret, and SHIELD/HYDRA/Other would have noticed he was alive, even if not playing hero.
    it was nice to see him stay for her, but breaks chronology they force to keep consistent.


    Maybe I forgot things or didn't analyze correctly.

    I'm now waiting for Agent of shield's next season on May 10th. I wonder if it'll be 5 years later too, or right after Decimation event. They waited for avengers4 so it's probably a sequel.
     
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    chinese media interviewed the director by telephone
    https://ent.qq.com/a/20190429/007983.htm

    In a Chinese Q & A, the Russos also doubled down on that when they were asked what time Cap goes back to meet Peggy. (The answer is obviosuly the 1940s, not just because the cars there are pristine 1940s models but also because it makes NO sense for him to go back and marry anyone but "his" Peggy):

    Peggy Carter was probably already married and in her mid 40s in 1970, in that case what year was it that Captain America went back to dance with her?
    A: We can't answer it for now, this is a story that happened in an alternate reality. Maybe it will be revealed in the future.
    Could this be their launchpad for reintroducing Cap further down the line in another reality? Could we see him jumping through other versions of the MCU timeline? Could he even look different (to get around Chris Evans wanting to leave the role)? The possibilities are endless when you're this vague.

    And even more interestingly, if this suggestion of such causal inter-dimensional travel is indeed true, could this be the key to introducing the concept of mutants and the Fantastic Four to the MCU? If so, that's huge!
     
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  11. AsPika2219

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    RIP.... I am.... IRONMAN.... :cry::cry::cry: Also RIP..... Black Widow.... :cry::cry::cry: Thanks for everything! :creep:
     
  12. leon315

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    the next one who post spoilers is as good as the manure i expelled every day.

    just let TC know that i dodged the 1st post, to avoid to give him satisfaction.
     
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