Zotac 9800GT just for reference:notnarb said:Why waste your time with the agin 9800gt when you can get a 4830 which generates the same amount of heat, uses the same amount of power, and gives around the same performance (although the 4830 can be clocked much higher with simple overclocking utilities) for 20 dollars cheaper (for you silly Canadians at least, here in the states it can be had for 75, half the price of your 9800)DSGamer64 said:Why waste your time with crappy ATI cards that require more power and generate more heat? For 150 bucks you can get a 9800GT 512MB graphics card from Zotac on Newegg.ca, thats the card I am after and has great reviews on it too.
source: http://www.neoseeker.com/Articles/Hardware...iews/msi9800gt/ which is a little outdated as the 4830 has dropped in price significantly since then and the 50 dollar rebates have all expired for the 9800, leaving the after rebate price around where the 4830 is before rebate. The reviewer also had a stock 4830, a better overclock can be obtained with one with a new fan, such as the sapphire version of the card.
But I will agree with you, OP should get a newer, more efficient card (both the 9800 and 4830 are a step up from the 3870), unless of course he has a reason for needing 1GB of video ram
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?...N82E16814500080
The prices vary though by brand, yes the 4830's in general might be a bit cheaper depending on the brand, but I think dollar for dollar, the Zotac 9800GT is one of the best budget gamer video cards on the market in terms of specs, however you really do have to look at the detailed specs of both models. The cheapest 4830 is 123 CAD, made by PowerColor, the 9800GT has a higher core clock but the 4830 has more stream processes (640 vs 116), those are the only two spec details that I see which sets them apart. The Zotac card is smaller in size though so if you are going for a smaller form factor case like me, while both would fit just fine, the Zotac won't risk me running out of room for other cards and I can still get high performance and possibly a bit of overclocking.