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AkiraKurusu
AkiraKurusu
Like, take Ghost of Tsushima - there's plenty of markers on the map, showing the locations of enemy forts and villages, shrines, and side quests (among others). I actually LIKE this, since I can decide what I want to tackle next and how much is left to do.
AkiraKurusu
AkiraKurusu
Compare this to, say, Breath of the Wild, which makes the player climb towers and find and pin things themselves - which means it's easy to miss stuff, and gives me no motivation to continue exploring the desolate wasteland version of Hyrule, since I can't just look at my map and decide what I want to do next at any time.
AkiraKurusu
AkiraKurusu
However, if there's too many map markers (Ubisoft's bad at this, as is Bethesda), that's also a negative, since it means there's a ton of repeated missions. Yawn.
The two extremes - flooding the map with markers, or none whatsoever - are both awful. The middle ground's ideal.
AkiraKurusu
AkiraKurusu
Another game that does this well is Marvel's Spider-Man; New York's never crowded with markers, and almost all of the missions are fun to do (except Screwball and Taskmaster).
smileyhead
smileyhead
Now that I think about it, yeah. Some more automation in BotW would've been nice. For example, the towers have map data, so why shouldn't they give you the locations of shrines in the area? Or have the sensor mark shrines you get in the vicinity of, instead of just beeping annoyingly.
Also, there could've been a counter for stables and towns to tell you how many side quests there are in the vicinity.
Julie_Pilgrim
Julie_Pilgrim
I hate map markers, makes me feel like I’m not discovering anything
Julie_Pilgrim
Julie_Pilgrim
Well, not always, they can be done well, like in spider man ps4
Julie_Pilgrim
Julie_Pilgrim
But that game was set in a city, and I don’t wanna find shit in a city
AkiraKurusu
AkiraKurusu
Making some (but not all) markers question marks, instead of just outright describing what's there, could be a nice compromise - I think.
I dunno, I just love map markers, and hate empty maps.
Julie_Pilgrim
Julie_Pilgrim
Another compromise could be giving the ability to turn markers off
AkiraKurusu
AkiraKurusu
...And the ability to turn them *on* in games that otherwise lack them.
I wonder if someone could hack that into Breath of the Wild, alongside disabling stamina and fragility? So I don't have to check an online, external, map in order to find things.
Julie_Pilgrim
Julie_Pilgrim
Since most people don’t like map markers, why put in the effort?
AkiraKurusu
AkiraKurusu
To cater to everyone, instead of just one group.
Julie_Pilgrim
Julie_Pilgrim
Well I think I did find a mod that got rid of fragility, but it was for cemu
ChubSwagLad
ChubSwagLad
Wait, people hate map markers? Why??? They're helpful.
Julie_Pilgrim
Julie_Pilgrim
I want to discover things, not have the game tell me where they are
AkiraKurusu
AkiraKurusu
In Ghost of Tsushima, you could discover collectibles like Mongol artefacts and graveyard crickets and logs and stuff; the major things, like locations and quests and quest objectives (the stuff that's actually important, giving the player motivation to continue playing) got markers.
Julie_Pilgrim
Julie_Pilgrim
Eh, that's the kinda stuff I wanna find tho
ChubSwagLad
ChubSwagLad
Usually the discovering part IS left up to you. But if you need to remember where a certain location is, map markers come in handy. But hey, to each his own.
Julie_Pilgrim
Julie_Pilgrim
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