Hardware remanufactured Xbox 360 jasper from GameStop

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I’ve heard if GameStop refurbishes a Xbox it means it was a rrod Xbox 360, is this the same with mine I’ve bought it from my friend it’s an elite jasper v2 is there anything I should be worried about? Mines has a sticker that says it’s GameStop remanufactured.
 

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probably not. I think most refurbished systems work better than an original, untouched unit, because a person went in there and fixed the defect instead of a machine.
 
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Wouldn't stress about it, Jaspers are the least likely to rrod. They fixed the issue with them and they weren't a problem going forward. You got the best version of phat you could get when it comes to rrod.
 
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rrod occurs due to a few things. the dvd drive, according to the lead engineer, was forgotten about when it comes to heat, so both cpu and gpu are essentially boxed in. and, the fan tunnel/shroud has gaps in it. neither of these things were fixed with any phat 360. what has been done is that the chips are smaller, so they dispense less heat. another issue is that the solder is lead free to conform to green laws. lead solder has a higher melting point I believe, so it should last longer. however, the melting point of solder is far above what the system would reach by several hundred degrees. the solder joints develop cracks from the constant heating up, then cooling down. the fan abruptly stops, just like the ps3, when you turn the system off, so it doesn't continue to cool the system down. they fixed this with at least rest mode on the ps4. however, turning off a ps4 is an abrupt stop as well. I don't know about the xbox one as I've never owned one. this is only for rrod, so if you had another problem, it's probably fine either way.
 
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The fact remains that I'm giving accurate information. Jaspers fixed the rrod problem. I have never heard of one rroding if you have feel free to provide proof.

New Jasper-based Xbox 360s solve the RRoD problem. ... Microsoft's new Jasper-based versions of its Xbox 360 have finally arrived, with the hope that the 65-nanometer version of the console's graphics chip will not suffer the overheating 'Red Ring of Death' problems that have dogged past versions of the 360.Dec 1, 2008

https://www.techradar.com/news/gaming/jasper-based-xbox-360s-beat-rrod-problems-489725

According to survey data from SquareTrade, widespread Xbox 360 problems -- yes, we're talking about the "Red Ring of Death" -- are on the decline.

According to the data collected in an independent survey, the introduction of the "Jasper" chipset in the later part of 2008 could be the catalyst, possibly having "solved" the red ring problem. The study backs up Microsoft's Aaron Greenberg's claim that rampant hardware issues are a thing of the past. Of course, this isn't much comfort for early adopters and current owners who are still having problems, red ring or otherwise.

https://www.destructoid.com/stories...red-ring-problems-on-the-decline-147082.phtml
 
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even slims suffer from hardware failure except in that case the power button turns red, not rrod. it was not solved until slims technically, because the rrod display doesn't even occur with them.
 

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sure, jaspers are less prone, but you act as though they can't get it at all. the rrod was not fixed. I've heard of jaspers overheating just like xenons and falcons.
 
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prove it

I seriously doubt you have multiple friends that told you they got rrod on a jasper, maybe 1 but one person doesn't proof it's a serious issue. I just flat out don't believe more than one said they got rrod.
 
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I don't know why you're trying to act as though jaspers get rrod, unless you own one, and are just trying to convince yourself. it's less prone, yes, but you act as though it doesn't happen. the fan shroud gaps are still there, it's still boxed in by the dvd drive. I mean have you ever actually opened a phat 360. you'll see where the problems are. just because they made the chips smaller doesn't mean squat.
 
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Dude I've provided 3 links, you've provided what you say. I don't believe you for a second that more than one friend told you they got rrod on a jasper, maybe one but that doesn't prove anything like I said a ps5 can overheat if it's left in the desert.
 

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A refurbed console from GameStop doesn't automatically mean RROD, it just means they couldn't sell it in its current condition so they sent it back to the warehouse. It could've been DVD drive issues, broken controller, broken case/drive tray, etc. I've even seen employees charge a refurb fee and send it to the warehouse if it was dirty.
 

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indeed. it could be anything. I had to send in my original switch, which according to Nintendo, the nand got corrupted. they weren't able to retrieve my saves, but since it was legit, they sent me a replacement, a refurbished console. it works very well (had it for like 2 years). it's also hackable without a modchip, so I'm keeping it even though I have no interest in entering the switch scene. it's currently on the headboard of my bed in its own dock. I have a Mario and animal crossing switches plugged in, which are the ones I use.
 

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prove it

I seriously doubt you have multiple friends that told you they got rrod on a jasper, maybe 1 but one person doesn't proof it's a serious issue. I just flat out don't believe more than one said they got rrod.

kek, I got a RROD jasper standing under me table :')
You're full of shite.

Idk where you got your facts from matey but I've personally seen and repaired plenty of RROD Jasper boards.
Linking to articles from 2008 when the Jasper boards where brand new isn't going to help your case.

The whole cause of the vast majority of RROD on the 360 is the solder composition they used.
Chips heat up and cool down many times, the BGA eventually becomes brittle and it only takes 1 connection to snap to get a RROD.

Jaspers are less prone to RROD but it still happens, this includes the same thermal related issues that plague the earlier gen 360's.
 

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sandungas, a dev/mod on psx place is who told me about the fan shroud having gaps (never heard of it before). he has pictures in one of the threads on there, and it affects all phat 360s. it's not something they would've fixed if it was refurbished. it's more diy. I never did it to any of my systems though. that's why he's so passionate about heating with the ps3 and its syscon. he told me it's because of the heating problems with the 360, since he owned one before the ps3. I'm assuming he got rrod, but I don't know which model.

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another member mentioned doing that mod, because he knew about it as well. there's not a lot of info on it, when I tried looking it up.

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I found the conversation: https://www.psx-place.com/threads/replacing-thermal-paste.19391/#post-131722

this and downward
 
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kek, I got a RROD jasper standing under me table :')
You're full of shite.

Idk where you got your facts from matey but I've personally seen and repaired plenty of RROD Jasper boards.
Linking to articles from 2008 when the Jasper boards where brand new isn't going to help your case.

The whole cause of the vast majority of RROD on the 360 is the solder composition they used.
Chips heat up and cool down many times, the BGA eventually becomes brittle and it only takes 1 connection to snap to get a RROD.

Jaspers are less prone to RROD but it still happens, this includes the same thermal related issues that plague the earlier gen 360's.

Mod or not don't tell me I'm full of shit you've never been wrong in your life? That was my understanding and I showed links to back it up.

My first post I told OP is still correct, it's the least likely phat to get RROD. I never said it was impossible.
 
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By linking articles from a decade ago?
Smart :')

I'm not going to respond anymore I don't care what you have to say, ban if you want I don't really care.

Godreborn I appreciate your apology, I also apologize.
 

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