Price increase amount confirmed for the Switch 2 in the UK, set to come into effect September 1st

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Though we knew all the way back in May that this was coming, the exact numbers remained a mystery for prospective Nintendo gamers in the UK. If you happen to have been living under a rock, let me fill you in. The price of the Switch 2 is set to go up next month. For those of you in the US, Canada, and EU, the exact amount has been known for a few months now, with the US getting the worst deal looking at percentage increase. You can find a reminder of these increases below:
  • United States: $449.99 ➜ $499.99 (11% increase)
  • Canada: CA$629.99 ➜ CA$679.99 (7% increase)
  • Europe: €469.99 ➜ €499.99 (6% increase)
Nintendo have today confirmed the numbers for those of us in the UK, and they're not quite as bad as I was expecting.
  • United Kingdom: £395.99 ➜ £419.99 (6% increase)
The numbers are relatively in line with what was announced for Canada and Europe, showing a 6% increase. As with other regions, these prices are set to come into effect from the 1st of September, giving you a little under two weeks if you're still on the fence about buying before it gets a touch more expensive.

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They are insanely litigious about everything. Also nobody likes when Disney are doing these things either. Like the time they almost sued a man for putting Spider-Man imagery on his sons grave, who loved Spider-Man that much (Only reason they didn't is because he was forced to remove it). That Disney? You really think ANYONE likes it when Disney does it? Do you really think comparing them to Nintendo is doing them any favors? It just proves what I am saying.

One simple example is Nintendo shutting down a fighting competition that was made for charity some time ago, because Smash was going to be played there. Also Emulation is not piracy. People using it to pirate is a completely different thing. Going after them is scummy, especially the way Nintendo does it. I don't know about you, but sending literal goons to your address and making threats to financially ruin someone with a drawn out lawsuit (because legally they have little to no ground and they know it) is as scummy as it gets.

That is what happened with Ryujinx. There was no leaked code in there and there was no support for piracy in any way from the developers of it, yet Nintendo attacked them with all might. Not to mention that, if Nintendo was ever to lose builds and source code of their games, they would snatch up the decomp projects with zero credit and most certainly *pirate* the games themselves. Do not defend them for scummy shit they are doing.

As for prices, outside Japan, pretty much everything is far more expensive. From games, to consoles......everything. They are selling a goddamn Mario themed alarm clock for $110.

No one is forcing you to buy stuff, if you don't like them, don't buy their stuff, but also don't try to play their stuff,
Most people do use emulation for piracy, I never had problems with emulation but what was happening with the Switch was abusive.
The alarmo isn't just a mario themed clock if that's what you were getting to. It's a fun prop and only who wants it, buys. Sony and Microsoft also have their absurd prices on branded products, heck, sony even makes you buy specific headsets or adapter just because (not to mention the whole physical stuff nowadays).

Nintendo is doing what most companies do, it does affect me since I simply like games and buy what I want, so I honestly do not care.
 
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No one is forcing you to buy stuff, if you don't like them, don't buy their stuff, but also don't try to play their stuff,
Most people do use emulation for piracy, I never had problems with emulation but what was happening with the Switch was abusive.
The alarmo isn't just a mario themed clock if that's what you were getting to. It's a fun prop and only who wants it, buys. Sony and Microsoft also have their absurd prices on branded products, heck, sony even makes you buy specific headsets or adapter just because (not to mention the whole physical stuff nowadays).

Nintendo is doing what most companies do, it does affect me since I simply like games and buy what I want, so I honestly do not care.
Most people using emulators to pirate, does not make emulators illegal, nor does it make ethical or justified to make life ruining threats to people developing them. Only 'abusive' things for Switch was what Yuzu devs did. Outright giving TOTK roms to people before game even came out and using leaked code in their emulator. While I do not like that Nintendo went after them, what they did was scummy and illegal, so I will not defend them at all. Ryujinx and pretty much every other emulator they went against was not the case.

You also should care...... There is no reason why you shouldn't expect companies to do better than they are doing now. Also being a 'fun prop', does not make it in any way a product that is worth that money. It just doesn't. Nothing about that thing justifies its price. "Fun prop" shouldn't cost even half of that price.

I am aware that both Sony and XBOX have absurd prices, hence why I am not buying their products, or supporting them in any way and am criticizing them at every turn. XBOX has been a complete waste of time for 2 gens in a row now and Sony from my perspective, outside Astro Bot and Helldivers 2, didn't release a single worthwhile first party title at all this gen. Their "Pro" controller is basically a scam, far bigger one than that goddamn alarm clock, I give you that. PS5 Pro is also an overpriced money grab. Hence why I am on PC and never bought and will not buy any Playstation or XBOX.

Only Nintendo stuff I own is DSi XL and N3DSLL that I bought second hand this January and July. Got a good deal on both of them. Nice machines. Naturally jailbroken and all games are 'sourced' in a way you can imagine, however since there is quite literally not a single way to give Nintendo money for those games, I have little qualms about it. They aren't loosing a sale and I certainly will not pay $40 for a 2nd hand 10yo game, from some prick reseller.

Switch does not interest me much in general, but homebrew on Switch 2, once jailbreak happens will be nice. Would be funny to install Linux on it and play my Steam library with FEX and Proton, I am sure, but eh.

It seems we fundamentally have different perspectives on the topic.
 
Most people using emulators to pirate, does not make emulators illegal, nor does it make ethical or justified to make life ruining threats to people developing them. Only 'abusive' things for Switch was what Yuzu devs did. Outright giving TOTK roms to people before game even came out and using leaked code in their emulator. While I do not like that Nintendo went after them, what they did was scummy and illegal, so I will not defend them at all. Ryujinx and pretty much every other emulator they went against was not the case.

You also should care...... There is no reason why you shouldn't expect companies to do better than they are doing now. Also being a 'fun prop', does not make it in any way a product that is worth that money. It just doesn't. Nothing about that thing justifies its price. "Fun prop" shouldn't cost even half of that price.

I am aware that both Sony and XBOX have absurd prices, hence why I am not buying their products, or supporting them in any way and am criticizing them at every turn. XBOX has been a complete waste of time for 2 gens in a row now and Sony from my perspective, outside Astro Bot and Helldivers 2, didn't release a single worthwhile first party title at all this gen. Their "Pro" controller is basically a scam, far bigger one than that goddamn alarm clock, I give you that. PS5 Pro is also an overpriced money grab. Hence why I am on PC and never bought and will not buy any Playstation or XBOX.

Only Nintendo stuff I own is DSi XL and N3DSLL that I bought second hand this January and July. Got a good deal on both of them. Nice machines. Naturally jailbroken and all games are 'sourced' in a way you can imagine, however since there is quite literally not a single way to give Nintendo money for those games, I have little qualms about it. They aren't loosing a sale and I certainly will not pay $40 for a 2nd hand 10yo game, from some prick reseller.

Switch does not interest me much in general, but homebrew on Switch 2, once jailbreak happens will be nice. Would be funny to install Linux on it and play my Steam library with FEX and Proton, I am sure, but eh.

It seems we fundamentally have different perspectives on the topic.
You lost me at the part where going after an emulation group that is profiting from your brand and sharing leaked rom is scummy and illegal. Bruh, If I live with you then I can totally take some your work, submitted it to a different company, cashing in some money and it's definitely fine and dandy, if you try to stop me? well well that's pretty scummy of you and that's illegal btw.
 
You lost me at the part where going after an emulation group that is profiting from your brand and sharing leaked rom is scummy and illegal. Bruh, If I live with you then I can totally take some your work, submitted it to a different company, cashing in some money and it's definitely fine and dandy, if you try to stop me? well well that's pretty scummy of you and that's illegal btw.

While I get where you are coming from, I think you misunderstood what he wrote. What he said was scummy and illegal was what Yuzu did.
 
You lost me at the part where going after an emulation group that is profiting from your brand and sharing leaked rom is scummy and illegal. Bruh, If I live with you then I can totally take some your work, submitted it to a different company, cashing in some money and it's definitely fine and dandy, if you try to stop me? well well that's pretty scummy of you and that's illegal btw.
You misunderstood. I did not defend them. I think what Yuzu team did was beyond stupid and that Nintendo was right to take them down for it, despite me not really "liking" it because it is in my interest that there are more emulators around. Maybe I didn't express myself properly there.

Reading back, I see why you would misread. By "they" in that sentence, I meant Yuzu team, not Nintendo. They had all legal justifications to take them down........For obvious reasons. I have no idea how did they get so cocky that they think they could not only share ROMs unpunished, but ROMs of a LEAKED UNRELEASED MAJOR game and even brag about it in public.

I don't know if there was ever another instance of a major emulation team doing something so stupid, so brazenly.
 
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You misunderstood. I did not defend them. I think what Yuzu team did was beyond stupid and that Nintendo was right to take them down for it, despite me not really "liking" it because it is in my interest that there are more emulators around. Maybe I didn't express myself properly there.

Reading back, I see why you would misread. By "they" in that sentence, I meant Yuzu team, not Nintendo. They had all legal justifications to take them down........For obvious reasons. I have no idea how did they get so cocky that they think they could not only share ROMs unpunished, but ROMs of a LEAKED UNRELEASED MAJOR game and even brag about it in public.

I don't know if there was ever another instance of a major emulation team doing something so stupid, so brazenly.
Oh sorry, my bad then.

On the other note. Do we know exactly what went down with the Ryujinx? Last time I heard about it was that Nintendo actually came to the dev's house to "discuss". Did the guy speak up about what happened? If everything is kept under wrap then I'd say that is a peaceful resolution.

I know you said Ryujinx and "other emulator" to group them together but I don't think there was any other "innocent" emulator, they always have some kind of catch to them once you actually read about the case.
 
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Oh sorry, my bad then.

On the other note. Do we know exactly what went down with the Ryujinx? Last time I heard about it was that Nintendo actually came to the dev's house to "discuss". Did the guy speak up about what happened? If everything is kept under wrap then I'd say that is a peaceful resolution.

I know you said Ryujinx and "other emulator" to group them together but I don't think there was any other "innocent" emulator, they always have some kind of catch to them once you actually read about the case.
I would be speaking from memory, since it's been a while since it happened, but what went down is pretty much Nintendo "asking" the dev to sell the project to them.

Lead dev is from Brazil and not particularly wealthy as you might expect, so any legal battle to defend is something that he could not afford to do, even when legally, he did nothing wrong. You could say it was 'peaceful', but it's as peaceful as a super power pointing their nukes at you while 'asking' to agree to an agreement.

In case of Ryujinx, there really was NOTHING. They were as clean as it comes. Nintendo simply abused their ability to bankrupt their opposition in this case. Nintendo would have very hard time winning a lawsuit, but that only works if their opponent can actually afford to do so. It's a very standard tactic and a massive flaw in pretty much every judicial system. Those without money will have a reaaaaaaaaally hard time defending themselves against major corporations in the court of law. That is why you will see gofundme campaigns and such popping up, when massive controversy occurs. In this case, the man simply did not want to risk his whole life pretty much on fighting Nintendo and it's something that is hard to blame him on.

When it comes to Yuzu, no actual lawsuit occurred, but that is because that case was really completely unwinnable. Nintendo didn't even need to fight against the emulator at all. Simply attacking them over copyright infringement from the dissemination of the TOTK ROM would be enough to put them down. So they (Yuzu devs) just gave it to them and gave up.

Now, I may be wrong, but from what I understood and saw........Ryujinx really did nothing illegal, unless emulation itself somehow becomes illegal, which very much is not the case (and if it was......well......no emulator would really exist today).

If anyone knows anything more, I would love to hear it.
 
I would be speaking from memory, since it's been a while since it happened, but what went down is pretty much Nintendo "asking" the dev to sell the project to them.

Lead dev is from Brazil and not particularly wealthy as you might expect, so any legal battle to defend is something that he could not afford to do, even when legally, he did nothing wrong. You could say it was 'peaceful', but it's as peaceful as a super power pointing their nukes at you while 'asking' to agree to an agreement.

In case of Ryujinx, there really was NOTHING. They were as clean as it comes. Nintendo simply abused their ability to bankrupt their opposition in this case. Nintendo would have very hard time winning a lawsuit, but that only works if their opponent can actually afford to do so. It's a very standard tactic and a massive flaw in pretty much every judicial system. Those without money will have a reaaaaaaaaally hard time defending themselves against major corporations in the court of law. That is why you will see gofundme campaigns and such popping up, when massive controversy occurs. In this case, the man simply did not want to risk his whole life pretty much on fighting Nintendo and it's something that is hard to blame him on.

When it comes to Yuzu, no actual lawsuit occurred, but that is because that case was really completely unwinnable. Nintendo didn't even need to fight against the emulator at all. Simply attacking them over copyright infringement from the dissemination of the TOTK ROM would be enough to put them down. So they (Yuzu devs) just gave it to them and gave up.

Now, I may be wrong, but from what I understood and saw........Ryujinx really did nothing illegal, unless emulation itself somehow becomes illegal, which very much is not the case (and if it was......well......no emulator would really exist today).

If anyone knows anything more, I would love to hear it.
That's why I said if we know exactly what happened. All of what you just said is just head canon.

You can't say nothing in this case. At the end of the day, it's still a software that enable the vast majority of its user piracy of current hardware. If the owner comes to your house to ask you to stop or even just a letter then im sure stopping is the respectful thing to do. Especially if it's a developer we're talking about. I'm also a dev and I had my share of asking for other devs to stop what they were doing and others asking me to stop what im doing. It's actually very peaceful. All interactions were always something like this:

"Hey, im a dev of xxx, I worked hard on this project, what you're doing right now is hurting me financially, can you stop? Thanks"
"Thanks for contacting, I really respect your work, didn't realize it'd be bad for you. I'll stop now"

I'm paraphrasing but it always went down like that, no friction at all. You might think that they can "well, what im doing is legal so fk you" but NO DEVELOPER will ever say that, not the one that actually worth their salt. Even if Nintendo is an indie company or just another lone developer, the dev has a high chance of respectfully stop. This is me also head canon but it's probably a combination of both respect and fear of retaliation since again, what you're doing (emulation) is not exactly legal (more below)

You seem to misunderstanding something. Emulator was never legal. Everyone in the internet using that argument always reference the Sony case against some cheating device back in the 90s which has nothing to do with today emulation. It's a grey area where the status quo is being kept by both the emulator's devs and the hardware companies. They only tolerate each others. I suggest watching a video by a lawyer on youtube called Moon Channel or something where he breaks this down perfectly.

Most ppl use emulator for piracy, i'm sure no one would argue with this, but we don't have the actual data or specificly these hardware company don't have that data cause these emulator don't have telemetry (or even if they have it it's impossible to determine if the user uses a valid copy of the game, only the hardware manufactor can do it) so it's a stalemate for them. But looking at things lately, there will appear some idiots that will break the current state and enable the final blow to the emulator scene.
 
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That's why I said if we know exactly what happened. All of what you just said is just head canon.

You can't say nothing in this case. At the end of the day, it's still a software that enable the vast majority of its user piracy of current hardware. If the owner comes to your house to ask you to stop or even just a letter then im sure stopping is the respectful thing to do. Especially if it's a developer we're talking about. I'm also a dev and I had my share of asking for other devs to stop what they were doing and others asking me to stop what im doing. It's actually very peaceful. All interactions were always something like this:

"Hey, im a dev of xxx, I worked hard on this project, what you're doing right now is hurting me financially, can you stop? Thanks"
"Thanks for contacting, I really respect your work, didn't realize it'd be bad for you. I'll stop now"

I'm paraphrasing but it always went down like that, no friction at all. You might think that they can "well, what im doing is legal so fk you" but NO DEVELOPER will ever say that, not the one that actually worth their salt. Even if Nintendo is an indie company or just another lone developer, the dev has a high chance of respectfully stop. This is me also head canon but it's probably a combination of both respect and fear of retaliation since again, what you're doing (emulation) is not exactly legal (more below)

You seem to misunderstanding something. Emulator was never legal. Everyone in the internet using that argument always reference the Sony case against some cheating device back in the 90s which has nothing to do with today emulation. It's a grey area where the status quo is being kept by both the emulator's devs and the hardware companies. They only tolerate each others. I suggest watching a video by a lawyer on youtube called Moon Channel or something where he breaks this down perfectly.

Most ppl use emulator for piracy, i'm sure no one would argue with this, but we don't have the actual data or specificly these hardware company don't have that data cause these emulator don't have telemetry (or even if they have it it's impossible to determine if the user uses a valid copy of the game, only the hardware manufactor can do it) so it's a stalemate for them. But looking at things lately, there will appear some idiots that will break the current state and enable the final blow to the emulator scene.
Headcanon? That is...... what happened.... If you think otherwise, find information yourself, ig.

"Respectfully" asking is a myth and you are giving Nintendo too much credit. Besides that, there is exactly zero legal or moral argument you can make against people creating emulators to perfectly recreate and simulate targeted hardware. Besides that, emulators are critical for game preservation and making these games playable once hardware used to run it stops working, which is inevitable.
You are also making an argument that emulators hurt sales, linking it to piracy, but that was......proven to be false. You can find EU studies that prove that video game piracy does not lead to loss in sales. Those that pirate, were never customers in the first place. And that is for piracy itself, emulators being possible to use for that.....is not very relevant. Not only do I not agree, but you are just wrong.
Also it is very disingenous to claim that I am making up headcanons, while presenting something that is far less likely, with Nintendo's known and factual history of litigious actions and patent trolling (like they are doing with Palworld). Also, I don't think it's your place to speak on behalf of devs, like they are a monolith or like you know them. I know of cases where devs would be fine even if their games were pirated, just so that they could be enjoyed by another, so what you speak there collapsed on that merit alone.

I am not misunderstanding anything. You are just woefully misinformed and uninformed on legality of it in general. Emulators and emulation is legal. Precedents have been set decades ago. They always were legal. At worst they are in an untested legal gray zone, but illegal.......ABSOLUTELY NOT. Everyone is using that argument because there are cases that set precedent. Even without that case, there is zero laws that forbid emulation. Cases where emulators break the law is only when it's coming shipped with console BIOS, firmware and encryption keys ('illegal' is a misnomer, merely in the gray zone, because this part is untested) that must be sourced either by yourself from your console or pirating of course, however emulators do not provide those........ever......... Now, if they were happened to be reverse engineered, there would be zero legality issues with shipping those out, because of laws regarding reverse-engineering. If you think you can claim THAT is illegal, that would pretty much destroy countless pieces of software if it were the case......which is not.

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There is nothing to argue about emulation itself. It is legal. What most people use it for, is not relevant for legality of emulation and emulators themselves. "Final blow" without some insane astro turfing and new laws, cannot do anything to emulators. As I said already, only thing that must be tested is encryption. Nintendo does not wanna mess with that, because if they lose, they are completely fucked.

I do not understand why do you give Nintendo such massive benefit of the doubt, when their history has proven that when dealing with legal actions, they are not nice, kind or at all respectful. I also do not understand why do you think developers at all make any decisions regarding this matter. They almost never do. They shut down a charity event for fucks sake.......They are KNOWN to be petty and litigious. The whole business with Palworld should have informed you that they NEVER play nice.

Besides that, do you really think just because they 'asked nicely' would make Ryujinx devs to just GIVE THEM THE WHOLE THING or even stop working on it? Something they spent years working on, just......giving it away...... You are being naive.
 

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