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Let me save you the suspense; the Switch 2 won't get hacked

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itnA said:
First of all, I have no background in Computer Science or Cryptography, but I think Mr. FernandoRocker probably also doesn't have any Background in those Topics either, but if you know better and I'm talking out of my ass. Please, do correct me. This is also going to be my only Response because this Thread is just useless and only going in a Circle with People saying "NO, THE SWITCH 2 is UNHACKABLE" and "No, it is."

Technically, that's not true. It is authentificated/signed with post-quantum cryptography but it's still encrypted in another way.

In your other post:
"Regular/typical encryption like RSA can be decrypted with quantum computers. The algorithm used in RSA encryption is the kind of encryption that a quantum computer can easily defeat."

You make it sound like it's easy and that it's common practice, while it isn't.
Even the strongest Quantum Computers can't break RSA when its in the RSA-2048 Range or higher.
NIST is deprecating RSA in 2030 and disallowing it in 2035, but from your posts it doesn't seem like you are a Fan of looking into the Future and are only living in the "here and now", so why even mention it lol

Also:
The BCT was never an Attack Vector, even in older Consoles. Hackers looked for other entry points, this could maybe change Jailbreaks for older Generation Hardware in like a Century when people will have Quantum Computers for personal use. (If at all), or if for some Reason a big Company decides to jailbreak Nintendo Consoles lmao.

Seems like you only look into the future when it proves your point, not the other way arround.

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This doesn't change anything, hackers always used other Attack Vectors.
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I saw a video about Quantum computer, being able to decrypt any RSA encryption. While it is true that it can, we don't have the power to do it yet. [Sticking out random numbers just to give you an idea of what they were saying], they said that to decrypt any RSA-512 encryption, we would need a Quantum PC that could work with 300 Qbits simultaneously, but right now, we can only make it work with 60 Qbits or so.
So, while Quantum PC do have the POTENTIAL to crack anything, they don't have it yet.
 
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I saw a post claiming a hacker already hacked the switch 2 and tons of donation were poured. In the end he bought a house hahahahaha
 
Noctosphere said:
I saw a video about Quantum computer, being able to decrypt any RSA encryption. While it is true that it can, we don't have the power to do it yet. [Sticking out random numbers just to give you an idea of what they were saying], they said that to decrypt any RSA-512 encryption, we would need a Quantum PC that could work with 300 Qbits simultaneously, but right now, we can only make it work with 60 Qbits or so.
So, while Quantum PC do have the POTENTIAL to crack anything, they don't have it yet.
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Yeah that's what I meant, I forgot to add the "to-date", thanks for pointing it out.
 
Space_Goddess_Samus said:
this shit here gives me headache......why fight and cry about this? it eventually will get hacked, even if it takes 10-20 years.
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Because the ultra-fast hack of the Switch is the equivalent of the episode where Squidward tastes crabby patties for the first time in his life and becomes obsessed with them and their taste.

Nintendo games are good, even excellent in some respects, and the rise in game prices + the poor state of Pokémon games makes you want to see if the console will be hacked quickly or not, so I can understand.

The question is, yes, it will certainly be hacked sooner or later, maybe in 20 years. The thing is, everyone here and on the internet secretly hopes that it will be sooner rather than later, for reasons that everyone likes to hide.

Edit : Does anyone know if Team Fail0verflow still exists?
 
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People always forget to account for human mistakes. Specially in big projects with tons of people involved. Nothing is 100% safe and like some people said, it is only a matter of time and the amount of effort by the community.
I'm pretty sure, there's a lot of people trying to be the first. right now.
The hacking scene throughout the years always pulled a very skilled and sometimes unthinkable solutions.
 
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Let's see what you'll mostly play on Switch 2 if it's hacked... Switch 1 games and a few Switch 2 exclusives.

Hell, I actually really want a Switch 2 OLED as it'll make a superb Switch Pro.
 
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Any end-user with no background in computer hardware and security really shouldn't be making suggestions that something is unhackable. That is just plain lunacy. They don't know how the technology works in the first place, so they can't suggest they know it can't be cracked.
 
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DiscostewSM said:
Any end-user with no background in computer hardware and security really shouldn't be making suggestions that something is unhackable. That is just plain lunacy. They don't know how the technology works in the first place, so they can't suggest they know it can't be cracked.
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Anything is hackeable if you have enough TIME AND MONEY.

But some security can be unhackeable on the practice because the time and money needed may be prohibitive. that is a security principle.
 
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DiscostewSM said:
Any end-user with no background in computer hardware and security really shouldn't be making suggestions that something is unhackable. That is just plain lunacy. They don't know how the technology works in the first place, so they can't suggest they know it can't be cracked.
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I actually do have a bit of background in this so here is my 2 cents.


As long as someone has physical access to something it wont remain secure forever. However it can get to a point where its so complicated and expensive it will be borderline impossible for the average person to pull off. Or if does happen its so far in the future nobody really cares anymore. There is also the modern trend of companies gladly paying for an exploit and fixing it before its publicly known.


In regards to the switch 2.

Hardware wise Unless there's another major mistake from Nvidia I don't see any traditional methods being viable ever again. Manufactures have gotten good at defending against modchips and RGH attacks. Now sure its probably susceptible to laser attacks or precise EM pulses. But lets be real almost none of us will ever have access to that sort of equipment to pull that off.


Software wise Its looking like another xbox 360 and xbox one situation. Where unless Nintendo themselves ship a bug in a firmware its not getting hacked wide open. Its not impossible to write 100% secure code just very difficult. So what i think will happen is

1. A bug is introduced in a new firmware version or discovered in the exsting ones. Horray we have an entry point and then Nintendo patches it out meaning a small subset of people can make use of it like the ps4 has been for years now.

2. A bug is finally discovered years from now and Nintendo is never going back to fix it. Yay we finally did it but we could be 2-3 console generations in the future.

So in short I think we'll prob find a firmware exploit at somepoint. But the scene won't be nearly as widespread as the switch 1.
Which honestly is for the better IMO. We don't need people mass pirating with an emulator and posting on social media in broad daylight less we incur the wrath of nintendo's legal department and they take advanatge of the state of politics to BS some horrible laws into being made.
 
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