U.S. Supreme Court set to overturn Roe v. Wade abortion rights decision

[smf]

It’s not really a debate if you’re planning to exclude one side of it entirely. I think a more appropriate term would be a “wank sesh”, but who am I to judge?

pro lifers aren't a side to a discussion, they are cancer in any discussion which doesn't serve their own agenda.

pro choicers are capable enough of coming to a reasoned debate without their childish antics. But pro lifers will always derail any debate.

 

[SyphenFreht]

pretty much.

no birth control is 100% effective, you accept these terms when you start having sex.

Would you support younger women getting their tubes tied then? A majority of doctors will not allow a woman to go through that process until she is of a certain age, has had children, and often in cases of the woman being married, the husband's consent.

You would think that if people were allowed to do what they think is best for their own bodies and well being, there'd be a lot less abortions to worry about. In fact, according to the sources your platform buddy presented, most abortions recorded through these "surveys" were because of an accident and the mother was not prepared, financially more often than not, to take care of said child.

Maybe if instead of worrying about women's reproductive rights and the actions of, we should worry about fostering an environment where abortions could be avoided, rather than continuing the punishment.

Never, considering I'm planning on avoiding sex until I'm ready to get married and start a family.

You're currently abstaining from sex, but still your opinion on the female body is valid? Where did this idea of bodily entitlement come from?

Oh, wait...

 

[KennyAtom]

Maybe to someone with black/white thinking.

How about, I think the pro lifers should fuck off and let the grown ups have some quiet to have some reasoned debate.

you aren't really making your side look any better with that kind of thinking. Hell, I have a funny Babylon Bee article that corresponds to this.

'Pro-lifers Don't Care About Babies After They're Born', Says Person Who Just Destroyed Free Pregnancy Resource Center - Babylon Bee

It's funny, but also true.

 

[Foxi4]

You said disseminate
verb
spread (something, especially information) widely.

You are arguing in such bad faith that I refuse to have any discussion with you.

If you can't make a point that you actually believe in and just want to troll people with your put downs, then fuck off.

Is it clear enough how little respect you deserve?

I’ve already clarified what I meant. You are disseminating an idea while you’re in the process of examining it. You come across an idea in one post, you discuss it, and now that idea is present in 10-20 posts. Whether that leads to the propagation of that idea or not is another matter. That’s how dissemination of information works. As for your opinion, or respect, both are immaterial - I don’t plan on associating with you or people like you. We’re discussing an issue, that doesn’t mean we’re buddies.

 

[smf]

You would think that if people were allowed to do what they think is best for their own bodies and well being, there'd be a lot less abortions to worry about. In fact, according to the sources your platform buddy presented, most abortions recorded through these "surveys" were because of an accident and the mother was not prepared, financially more often than not, to take care of said child.

There would be less abortions if taxation was raised to financially help the mothers.

I'm not getting into debating whether someone of the opposite sex should be having their tubes tied.

 

[Foxi4]

pro lifers aren't a side to a discussion, they are cancer in any discussion which doesn't serve their own agenda.

pro choicers are capable enough of coming to a reasoned debate without their childish antics. But pro lifers will always derail any debate.

You’re speaking in favour of excluding an entire group of people from the process of discussing national policy, which is their right, if we believe in freedom of speech. That policy exclusively concerns what you also consider to be a right. The irony is somewhat palpable, although not surprising.

 

[smf]

You are disseminating an idea while you’re in the process of examining it.

You can't examine an idea without spreading it? That seems quite limiting.

What you're suggesting sounds like building a strawman.

 

[Foxi4]

You can't examine an idea without spreading it? That seems quite limiting.

What you're suggesting sounds like building a strawman.

I think my clarification is satisfactory. Your objection to phrasing seems like an attempt at dodging the question. To be fair, I’ve lost interest in the answer - I don’t even think you have one. I’m beginning to think that your only aim is to be disruptive, I’m yet to get one straight answer out of you.

 

[smf]

You’re speaking in favour of excluding an entire group of people from the process of discussing national policy, which is their right, if we believe in freedom of speech. That policy exclusively concerns what you also consider to be a right. The irony is somewhat palpable, although not surprising.

I do believe in freedom of speech, I am not going to have any of you idiots arrested for your views.

It seems you have a lack of understanding of what freedom of speech is. Which is unsurprising and also why it would be better, if you kept your mouth shut. Better to stay quiet and have people think you are stupid, than open your mouth and prove it.

 

[SyphenFreht]

you aren't really making your side look any better with that kind of thinking. Hell, I have a funny Babylon Bee article that corresponds to this.

'Pro-lifers Don't Care About Babies After They're Born', Says Person Who Just Destroyed Free Pregnancy Resource Center - Babylon Bee

It's funny, but also true.

Hardly anything from BabylonBee is credible. Almost as bad as that HLI article your bro tried passing off as legitimate.

There would be less abortions if taxation was raised to financially help the mothers.

I'm not getting into debating whether someone of the opposite sex should be having their tubes tied.

I do believe in freedom of speech, I am not going to have any of you idiots arrested for your views.

It seems you have a lack of understanding of what freedom of speech is. Which is unsurprising and also why it would be better, if you kept your mouth shut. Better to stay quiet and have people think you are stupid, than open your mouth and prove it.

Goes along with my personal idea of "Everyone should have a choice, not everyone should have a platform to speak on"

I agree to a point. I'm not big on taxes, another convo for another thread, but if taxes were actually put back into the system in a fundamental way, like job training, better daycare, financial assistance, etc, you wouldn't have as many abortions "out of convenience" or to "avoid responsibility".

 

[tabzer]

Having a fundamental believe that ignores the pain and suffering of another group of people, that your decision impacts without any consideration for them, shows a lack of distinct lack of empathy for them.

A lack of empathy for someone is a clear indicator that you will take pleasure in their suffering.

People struggle between their moral values and the reality of people's conditions all of the time. You project way too much.

 

[KennyAtom]

There would be less abortions if taxation was raised to financially help the mothers.

A little off topic, but taxes are already too high. We shouldn't raise it more so the government can fumble and spend the entire tax money in 0.3 hours. (A little exaggerated, but they spend trillions in hours. Too damn fast, and they already steal money from us, why should they get to steal more?)

 

[KennyAtom]

Hardly anything from BabylonBee is credible. Almost as bad as that HLI article your bro tried passing off as legitimate.

It's a satire site, genius.

Also what the fuck is HLI

 

[smf]

I think my clarification is satisfactory.

No, it makes no sense. I think you either meant to say decimate or you just don't know what disseminate meant.
But either way, you're trying to front it out.

Which is a real sign of weakness.

 

[smf]

I’m yet to get one straight answer out of you.

You ask the kind of questions that a school bully asks to get ammunition on their victims.

I'm yet to get one straight question from you.

 

[smf]

A little off topic, but taxes are already too high.

Well then, you have a choice.

 

[SyphenFreht]

It's a satire site, genius.

Also what the fuck is HLI

Oh boy, how could have I ever missed that?

"It's funny but true"
"It's not credible"
"It's satire!"

Ok fine, it's satire. Still doesn't make it true, genius.

It's one of the sites HeWhoPlacedMeUponHisIgnoreList tried pushing to prove his agenda. Apparently people don't understand that you can't quantify a small, specifically sought out portion of Americans and compare it to the ~4 billion women global wide without gross inaccuracy.

 

[KennyAtom]

Well then, you have a choice.

I agree, a choice to not have abortion nor high taxes.

 

[smf]

People struggle between their moral values and the reality of people's conditions all of the time. You project way too much.

You & jonathan have failed in every single post to show any consideration.

 

[smf]

I agree, a choice to not have abortion nor high taxes.

You can have abortion, or high taxes.

Whatever happens, cutting abortion will increase taxes. It's the unintended consequences that get you.