Joe Biden Wins - Becomes 46th president of the United States

[djpannda]

the only Defence that House Republicans are saying against Impeachment is "why rush this?"
IDK maybe a Seditious Coup?

 

[notimp]

People like this. What proof? What anything? All you idiots do is scream about BIG TECH when decades have gone by with republicans pushing this ridiculous capitalist agenda.

So when big tech basically helmed the gentrification of California, and parts of Seattle singlehandedly ( https://www.npr.org/local/305/2020/...at-the-housing-crisis-advocates-are-skeptical ), and then had to flee to Texas and Virginia so young hopefuls would still find anything aside from gated communities, and when they produced the system (sharing hate scales above other emotions, and above all other content) - we shouldnt recognize that, because they are with the good guys now.

Currently censoring speech with an immanent danger argument.

Look at Apple being with the good guys now:
https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2021...emic-racism-advance-racial-equity-nationwide/

100 Million dollar pledge to move racial minorities into UI design and marketing. Some coders also created.



Let me give you an insight into how rotten this "with the good guys" argument has become as of now. An appologist media studies professor in my parts of the world just claimed, that Twitters decision to ban Trump was rectified, because "they finally understood, that political speech of that office had to be filtered through the channels that are able to handle it, namely media".

I expect the Biden twitter account to be banned soon then?

As well as all congress members outreach and fund raising efforts?

This has reached double morale standards to the point where now even experts are not caring to frame this from a purely partisan position. Stay with the good guys, and you can do no wrong. Go with the bad guys, and we might use 'immanent danger' to ban 70k folks over night. Recourse? Of course none.

'Responsible social behavior'? Only implied, and only after democracy was almost toppled.

But now, that they banned the people promoting a certain hashtag - everyone is so happy, that they have to read less of it - that none of it matters.

When they promoted 'move fast and break things' it somehow was not the democratic process they broke? Because harsh actions, and a few millions in donations still work well enough?

Also active investing is broke, risk capital is more shy than in past decades - because their AI driven tools tell them to be, the average stock holding period has come down to 11 seconds and the solution is - well we dont actually know what 50% of the jobs in five to ten years will be - probably something with 'service' - and app, but equality is so important, we want to give everyone the same chance. And at the same time - probably UBI 'still will be needed' unsure...

So better don't give US people healthcare yet! They still need the motivation.

edit: Seattle is gaining tech workers again. So yay social responsibility - I guess...
https://www.insidehook.com/daily_brief/tech/elon-musk-austin-tech-companies
https://www.geekwire.com/2020/seatt...l-new-tech-talent-ranking-50-leading-markets/

 

[Doran754]

Yep.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/interactive/2021/annotated-trump-speech-jan-6-capitol/

I'm not getting any sound on this video, is it because I clicked free when i went on the website? I'll try and find his speech from the 6th of Jan on youtube. If he specifically tells people to go and storm the capitol then that's pretty damning. 71minutes is a lot of footage to sift through.

edit: No sound at the start, skipped forward sound is fine.

 

[Plasmaster09]

I'm not getting any sound on this video, is it because I clicked free when i went on the website? I'll try and find his speech from the 6th of Jan on youtube. If he specifically tells people to go and storm the capitol then that's pretty damning. 71minutes is a lot of footage to sift through.

edit: No sound at the start, skipped forward sound is fine.

Just read through that whole speech (or at least a large chunk of it- it gets boring reading through the same inflammatory rhetoric repeated over and over in an hour-plus-long speech). He doesn't technically use that wording, but between making statements about how he knows his supporters are going to 'peacefully protest' (peaceful, my ass) there on the 6th, constantly claiming that they will not accept Biden's win and claiming that he and his base will fight for what they believe in, he spells it out in parts.
It's still pretty damning, considering it involves about as much subtlety as someone dunking your face into a vanilla cream pie so that they can't be specifically accused of throwing the pie at you.

 

[djpannda]

so the House Republicans just give up their time to debate against Impeachment. For people not familiar with American politics. Politicians NEVER refuse a chance to spoke and get recognized...
That signifies that Most Republicans don't even want to be seen as opposing the Impeachment

 

[Cryoraptor]

so the House Republicans just give up their time to debate against Impeachment. For people not familiar with American politics. Politicians NEVER refuse a chance to spoke and get recognized...
That signifies that Most Republicans don't even want to be seen as opposing the Impeachment

As much as people like to ridicule politicians, one thing they aren't is stupid. Stupid people aren't able to get people to vote for them. As it stands, regardless of whether you agree with his politics or not, it would take a complete idiot to politically support Trump at this stage. He's acted like a toddler on Twitter, made a complete mess of America's politics and is now trying to undermine democracy by stirring up his die hard fans to commit acts of terrorism. If you support that, you are above all an idiot. Politicians know that, so of course they aren't going to speak against the impeachment. Trump will either disgracefully leave on the 20th or get dragged out by the police. He's lost this one.

 

[Rj.MoG]

So when big tech basically helmed the gentrification of California, and parts of Seattle singlehandedly ( https://www.npr.org/local/305/2020/...at-the-housing-crisis-advocates-are-skeptical ), and then had to flee to Texas and Virginia so young hopefuls would still find anything aside from gated communities, and when they produced the system (sharing hate scales above other emotions, and above all other content) - we shouldnt recognize that, because they are with the good guys now.

Currently censoring speech with an immanent danger argument.

Look at Apple being with the good guys now:
https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2021...emic-racism-advance-racial-equity-nationwide/

100 Million dollar pledge to move racial minorities into UI design and marketing. Some coders also created.



Let me give you an insight into how rotten this "with the good guys" argument has become as of now. An appologist media studies professor in my parts of the world just claimed, that Twitters decision to ban Trump was rectified, because "they finally understood, that political speech of that office had to be filtered through the channels that are able to handle it, namely media".

I expect the Biden twitter account to be banned soon then?

As well as all congress members outreach and fund raising efforts?

This has reached double morale standards to the point where now even experts are not caring to frame this from a purely partisan position. Stay with the good guys, and you can do no wrong. Go with the bad guys, and we might use 'immanent danger' to ban 70k folks over night. Recourse? Of course none.

'Responsible social behavior'? Only implied, and only after democracy was almost toppled.

But now, that they banned the people promoting a certain hashtag - everyone is so happy, that they have to read less of it - that none of it matters.

When they promoted 'move fast and break things' it somehow was not the democratic process they broke? Because harsh actions, and a few millions in donations still work well enough?

Also active investing is broke, risk capital is more shy than in past decades - because their AI driven tools tell them to be, the average stock holding period has come down to 11 seconds and the solution is - well we dont actually know what 50% of the jobs in five to ten years will be - probably something with 'service' - and app, but equality is so important, we want to give everyone the same chance. And at the same time - probably UBI 'still will be needed' unsure...

So better don't give US people healthcare yet! They still need the motivation.

When did I ever say about anyone being the good guys? Apple isn’t good. Neither is google. I’m just pointing out that when the US was told “Restore a saved game to restore the weave of fate, or persist in the doomed world you have created.” They chose capitalism. What were witnessing now is our twilight hours as a super power. There’s no individual I agree with. The absurd tribal mentality “us vs them” or football attitude of win/lose is what’s gotten us here. The mentality of the American people is fundamentally broken left and right. Big tech is only out for themselves and money. President Trump deserves to be arrested for his crimes. And there is no justice in the world. Me disagreeing with one side and pointing out flaws in an argument doesn’t mean I like the other side. Please don’t think I do. My hate runs strong for nearly everyone in politics today. Google and Amazon need to be broken up, reigned in and they need to pay their back taxes. Will they? No. But neither will ATT, Verizon, Nestle, Monsanto, Pilgrim, Sinclair, Viacom or any other corporation. Many of them have committed literal war crimes and Congress just shrugs. The storming of the capital was just a culmination of their own inaction. I don’t approve it but I’m not going to lie and say I didn’t laugh at how scared several congressmen were.

 

[notimp]

When did I ever say

You hinting at big tech not following capitalist motives, I guess.

Just because of association and appearance.

And there goes the argument 'look at what they - in a very real sense - are responsible for', just because of association and appearance. They are with the good guys now. They do tip!

Hey, Uber even has a tipping option in app now - I hear! So people show less guilt and use it more. Amazon has their charity initiatives, Apple will finance an entire wing of startup schools for black entrepreneurs. (And mostly designers and marketing people, to fill it up, so it doesnt look so empty. Until the businessmodels of the future arrive.)

 

[Rj.MoG]

You hinting at big tech not following capitalist motives, I guess.

Just because of association and appearance.

I accidentally pressed post. Please go and read my updated reply

 

[notimp]

I accidentally pressed post. Please go and read my updated reply

Didnt want to press you to do that.

Just interested in making sure, their responsibility doesnt fall by the wayside, now - that they have banned some extremists from their services.

Because thats the issue of claiming social responsibility vs actually living it. For some reason thats important to me.

 

[The Catboy]

This makes me laugh. Biden is a bit of a weirdo, but Trump has had, how many, tens of sexual assault accusations? What's the comparison?

Creepy actions is where I draw the line. Both of them have done creepy things and that’s something both of them need to be criticized on. To ignore one’s actions in the favor of the other is a disrespect to their victims.

 

[Cryoraptor]

Creepy actions is where I draw the line. Both of them have done creepy things and that’s something both of them need to be criticized on. To ignore one’s actions in the favor of the other is a disrespect to their victims.

I agree, I was more making the point of 'Trump supporters claim Biden is a creep/perv/pedo but look at how many sexual assault allegations Trump has received over the years'.

 

[Plasmaster09]

I agree, I was more making the point of 'Trump supporters claim Biden is a creep/perv/pedo but look at how many sexual assault allegations Trump has received over the years'.

It's like the tu quoque argument, except it actually works because there's evidence of Trump's actual sexual assault (including some rather disgusting comments like that infamous "grab 'em by the [censored]" line that make it clear he's not in any way ashamed of it) while Biden is just kind of a weird, out of touch sorta-unintentionally-creepy old man.

 

[djpannda]

New York City moves to end contracts with the Trump Organization
..ouch... That Was a really important source of income and more importantly FAME for Trump...

 

[chrisrlink]

even if trump doesn't get impeached once he's out hes a sitting duck for the NY DA regardless he won't run again cause once he's convicted of these crimes piling up it's game over for his career in politics

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after some research it scares me to oposite is true what were the founding fathers thinking not allowing a criminal to be forbidden to run that makes no fucking sense

 

[Plasmaster09]

even if trump doesn't get impeached once he's out hes a sitting duck for the NY DA regardless he won't run again cause once he's convicted of these crimes piling up it's game over for his career in politics

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after some research it scares me to oposite is true what were the founding fathers thinking not allowing a criminal to be forbidden to run that makes no fucking sense

Because the definition of "criminal" is a bit fuzzy.
However, someone that's pulled as much shit as Trump has shouldn't be able to run for ANY position of power. (Arguably, considering the stuff he did before taking office and even before his campaign, he should never have been allowed to run in 2016!)

 

[chrisrlink]

also seems treason is the only crime that prevents a person able to vote or hold any office any level of government now i wonder if he pardons those terrorist from the capitol insurgence could he be charged with treason after leaving office? part two of the definition of treason is rendering aide (in this case a pardon) to a enemy of the union

 

[Cryoraptor]

he won't run again cause once he's convicted of these crimes piling up it's game over for his career in politics

I think his career in politics is done regardless. Losing a re-election is bad enough but with the way he handled it, that's a death sentence. After he's left the white house he'll do his best to disappear from the face of the Earth and will run as far from accountability for his actions as possible.

 

[chrisrlink]

not if they nab him at 12pm on the 20th pretty sure NY DA is hurrying to charge him at 12pm and the feds are on notice to arrest him before he even steps out the front door of the WH pretty sure his fat ass can't run that fast he's no Sonic that's for damn sure

 

[ghjfdtg]

I think his career in politics is done regardless. Losing a re-election is bad enough but with the way he handled it, that's a death sentence. After he's left the white house he'll do his best to disappear from the face of the Earth and will run as far from accountability for his actions as possible.

I doubt that. He already stated he is gonna build his own media. As much as i would like him nuked from earth we will have to deal with his shit for years to come.