Hacking Question Is SX OS dead?

[MasterJ360]

Sure it is. There's a reason why Nintendo didn't go after Smealum for making Ninjhax or after SciresM for making Atmosphere.



In Japan, it's illegal to do any sort of mod to your console apparently (including video capture for 3DS), and we know that is BS. As for the UK, they strictly ruled against SX OS due to it having piracy, they didn't rule against Atmosphere.

In the end, people who think that there aren't those who use Atmosphere strictly for homebrew features are just ignorant, and want to believe everyone who hacks are doing the same things as them.

The same thing can be said to those who use SciresM as a scapegoat to exempt atmosphere from piracy when cfw itself enables it especially if you run emulators, it just requires (you) to add a few files to do so. The majority of folks aren't going to admit it that they do. But lets be real here nobody is going to buy an sxos for just homebrew which is why the comparison is laughable so to speak even on legal terms. Do you really think it would change sxos's situation if they didn't use Nintendo's xci code? not at all. They didn't go for SciresM b/c he isn't selling his cfw.

 

[agpixel]

I got a swith in 11.0.1 persant that sx was going to be quickly updated... it's missed

 

[pofehof]

I'm willing to bet that the percentage of people who hack for purely legal reasons is very low

You are making the same generalization which is unfortunately likely wrong. Are you willing to make the same generalization about those who were happy for Ninjhax even though people couldn't pirate 3DS games with it?

it just requires (you) to add a few files to do so

You do realize the same can be said for PCs, right? There's a reason Nintendo can't go after Microsoft, Apple, etc. Problem with SX OS is it's made and advertised with piracy in mind.

But lets be real here nobody is going to buy an sxos for just homebrew which is why the comparison is laughable so to speak even on legal terms.

I have never defended SX OS for solely homebrew. That OS comes with illegal keys that are made for pirating, so anyone who uses it definitely wants to pirate it. I am talking about people using Atmosphere solely for Homebrew.

Do you really think it would change sxos's situation if they didn't use Nintendo's xci code? not at all. They didn't go for SciresM b/c he isn't selling his cfw.

While the selling part is true, I highly doubt Nintendo wouldn't go after SX OS if it was still free, seeing that they go after romsites already.

 

[ombus]

Atmo is not used only for homebrew.
Sxos is not used only for piracy.

 

[Nerdtendo]

You are making the same generalization which is unfortunately likely wrong. Are you willing to make the same generalization about those who were happy for Ninjhax even though people couldn't pirate 3DS games with it?



You do realize the same can be said for PCs, right? There's a reason Nintendo can't go after Microsoft, Apple, etc. Problem with SX OS is it's made and advertised with piracy in mind.



I have never defended SX OS for solely homebrew. That OS comes with illegal keys that are made for pirating, so anyone who uses it definitely wants to pirate it. I am talking about people using Atmosphere solely for Homebrew.



While the selling part is true, I highly doubt Nintendo wouldn't go after SX OS if it was still free, seeing that they go after romsites already.

Yes I am willing to make the same generalization. People like homebrew AND piracy. Not to mention that most people who use emulators are pirating their emulated games. Also, just having exploits available is exciting regardless of what you can and can't do with them.

 

[0x3000027E]

Not to mention that most people who use emulators are pirating their emulated games.

A point that is often forgotten.

 

[EmanueleBGN]

Atmo is not used only for homebrew.
Sxos is not used only for piracy.

Homebrews are against the Nintendo's rules to use its hardware and software.
The difference between Atmosphère and SX OS is this: TX makes profit violating Nintendo's security measures

 

[pofehof]

Atmo is not used only for homebrew.
Sxos is not used only for piracy.

It's more like:

Atmosphere out of the box doesn't support piracy.
SXOS out of the box supports piracy.

People like homebrew AND piracy.

Sure, but not everyone. Also, it's a pretty big assumption to make that people who are using Homebrew are using emulators to play old games. A good amount might simply do save backups, save editing, and cheats, which isn't piracy.

The difference between Atmosphère and SX OS is this: TX makes profit violating Nintendo's security measures

Also the fact that SX OS supports piracy out of the box, whereas Atmosphere doesn't.

 

[Hayato213]

It's more like:

Atmosphere out of the box doesn't support piracy.
SXOS out of the box supports piracy.



Sure, but not everyone. Also, it's a pretty big assumption to make that people who are using Homebrew are using emulators to play old games. A good amount might simply do save backups, save editing, and cheats, which isn't piracy.



Also the fact that SX OS supports piracy out of the box, whereas Atmosphere doesn't.

It is because SciresM doesn't support piracy, most developers that does homebrew/CFW work doesn't support piracy, it is not worth legal hassle from Nintendo.

 

[Cylent1]

Atmos IS a enabler of piracy just as much as TX is. Prove me wrong!

 

[pofehof]

Atmos IS a enabler of piracy just as much as TX is. Prove me wrong!

Without extra files, you can't pirate games on Atmosphere. Without extra files on SX OS, you can pirate games.

 

[Hayato213]

Without extra files, you can't pirate games on Atmosphere. Without extra files on SX OS, you can pirate games.

You should really do your research, SciresM doesn't support piracy that why there is no patches included with vanilla Atmosphere, Rei support warez that why he includes patches with ReiNX, SX OS has them build into the OS or homebrew/backup won't even boot.

 

[pofehof]

You should really do your research, SciresM doesn't support piracy that why there is no patches included with vanilla Atmosphere,

How does that disprove what I am saying? SciresM doesn't support piracy, so Atmosphere out of the box doesn't support piracy. Trying to say Atmosphere supports piracy because other people make patches for it is like trying to say Windows OS supports piracy of video games out of the box.

 

[Hayato213]

How does that disprove what I am saying? SciresM doesn't support piracy, so Atmosphere out of the box doesn't support piracy. Trying to say Atmosphere supports piracy because other people make patches for it is like trying to say Windows OS supports piracy of video games.

That is up to the developers to be honest, SciresM never supported piracy so he will never include any patches with any of the Atmosphere builds, someone creating a CFW doesn't mean they have to support piracy, homebrew is one thing and piracy is another. That why Gary Browser is in jail and SciresM isn't.

And beside you have to look who is behind the CFW/CFW pack work, like Rei he support warez that why he includes ES patches for the backup, Kosmos developers use to include patches when at one time and then decided to completely remove it from their release so it is up to the developers.

 

[pofehof]

That why Gary Browser is in jail and SciresM isn't.

Yes, this is why it's safe to say that Atmosphere doesn't support piracy, but SX OS does. People who believe Atmosphere supports piracy are simply projecting themselves.

 

[Cylent1]

So the whole argument here is how TX enables piracy but Atmos doesnt?
Am I missing something?

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When all the switches have to all of a sudden have to rely on the Core/Lite chip to even have homebrew with Atmos, do you honestly think Ninty won't care?

 

[pofehof]

So the whole argument here is how TX enables piracy but Atmos doesnt?
Am I missing something?

That was the argument from page two/three.

When all the switches have to all of a sudden have to rely on the Core/Lite chip to even have homebrew with Atmos,

You still have unpatched Switches which will never get patched. I do not know how the modchip works, but I assume that it doesn't come with files needed to pirate on its own.

 

[Nerdtendo]

It's more like:

Atmosphere out of the box doesn't support piracy.
SXOS out of the box supports piracy.

Sure, but not everyone. Also, it's a pretty big assumption to make that people who are using Homebrew are using emulators to play old games. A good amount might simply do save backups, save editing, and cheats, which isn't piracy.



Also the fact that SX OS supports piracy out of the box, whereas Atmosphere doesn't.

Spend more than like... 10 minutes on this, or any other homevrew-centric forum and you will see that it is not a big assumption. It is likely a bigger assumption to state that most people who hack their consoles do not load emulators. That's the big shtick that makes people want to hack their consoles in the first place.

 

[pofehof]

That's the big shtick that makes people want to hack their consoles in the first place.

Even if that is the case, doesn't change the fact that Atmosphere doesn't support piracy out of the box, whereas SX OS does.

 

[Cylent1]

You kiddos keep on telling yourself that Atmos doesn't enable piracy while you pirate on your Atmos
Scires is a enabler by just creating Atmos!