Hacking Atmosphere-NX - Custom Firmware in development by SciresM

[sj33]

That said, I'd be curious to see if EmuNAND is actually necessary for people on 5.0.2. If we're to believe that Nintendo cannot patch fusee gelee, then EmuNAND is surely only useful for people on older firmwares such as 3.0.0. where software exploits are used.

Unless I'm missing something.

 

[M7L7NK7]

If they start banning people it will be useful

 

[Quantumcat]

If they start banning people it will be useful

How will that make it useful?

 

[M7L7NK7]

I mean if you can boot into a clean nand that has no homebrew

 

[TheCyberQuake]

I mean if you can boot into a clean nand that has no homebrew

If you are banned, it will likely be a console ban which would affect both emuNAND and sysNAND because they have the same console cert

 

[M7L7NK7]

Yeah but if you keep the nand with homebrew offline and use the other for online

 

[MHDestination]

Yeah but if you keep the nand with homebrew offline and use the other for online

Yes, i thought the same.

Keep emunand offline and your (online-)sysnand untouched.
Then Nintendo won't ever detect that your console has homebrew access.

 

[rynsonick]

Yes, i thought the same.

Keep emunand offline and your (online-)sysnand untouched.
Then Nintendo won't ever detect that your console has homebrew access.

is this possible ?
I hope it is.

 

[Quantumcat]

Yeah but if you keep the nand with homebrew offline and use the other for online

If your console gets banned it will affect both your emuNAND and your sysNAND. Having an emuNAND will not stop you from being banned.

 

[M7L7NK7]

I'm meaning so you don't get banned in the first place

 

[minooch_e]

I still don't understand why people don't read..

Fusee Gelee is a REPLACEMENT bootloader, the bootloader lives on your device.. you flash it, you can get banned..

 

[Ericthegreat]

I'm meaning so you don't get banned in the first place

For you and the others on here, who all feel they won't be banned I feel very bad, because ban should be expected.

 

[MHDestination]

I still don't understand why people don't read..

Fusee Gelee is a REPLACEMENT bootloader, the bootloader lives on your device.. you flash it, you can get banned..

Then read again:
Fusee Gelee is NO BOOTLOADER. The Bootloader is read-only and can't be flashed.
Fusee Gelee is a payload that uses a bug in stock bootloader.

It doesn't modify your switch at all.
Everything happens in RAM and is gone after a cold boot.

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If your console gets banned it will affect both your emuNAND and your sysNAND. Having an emuNAND will not stop you from being banned.

It won't magically unban your device.
But using emunand offline would prevent that nintendo sees any modification.

Messing with sysnand instead, is easy to detect by nintendo whenever you connect to their servers.

Therefore:
I won't try hekake. It WILL leave traces in sysnand.
I'm sure everyone that used hekake will suffer under the first banwave.

 

[fatsquirrel]

I won't try hekake. It WILL leave traces in sysnand.
I'm sure everyone that used hekake will suffer under the first banwave.

I have the same hunch.

 

[Tanmays007]

That is exactly what I recommend people to do if you want to enjoy homebrew and still play online. Keep sysNAND updated to the latest version and use emuNAND for homebrew. There is no way afaik for Nintendo to find out that you're been running homebrew/unsigned code. (as long as you don't have pins permanently soldered)

I won't try hekake. It WILL leave traces in sysnand.
I'm sure everyone that used hekake will suffer under the first banwave.

This is definitely possible. For those who already did try it, stay offline and do a complete factory reset before you move on to atmosphere.

 

[NightStorm1000]

You wont be banned for Fusee Gelee alone.
It happens way befor Horizon Even Loads. Nintendo has no Idea if you Booted Fusee Gelee or a Linux on your Switch. Nintendo can only Ban and detect things you Modify in Horizon. And Most of the Time not even this. They bad at this. Have CFW for years now on my 3DS. Played Pokemon online a lot. Still no Ban.

 

[Tanmays007]

You wont be banned for Fusee Gelee alone.
It happens way befor Horizon Even Loads. Nintendo has no Idea if you Booted Fusee Gelee or a Linux on your Switch. Nintendo can only Ban and detect things you Modify in Horizon. And Most of the Time not even this. They bad at this. Have CFW for years now on my 3DS. Played Pokemon online a lot. Still no Ban.

Nintendo can simply check running processes and even memory and easily identify if a CFW is running (since it will most definitely run with modified processes which also have escalated permissions). The fact that they didn't do anything in past isn't any indicating that they won't do anything now.

 

[fatsquirrel]

Nintendo can simply check running processes and even memory and easily identify if a CFW is running (since it will most definitely run with modified processes which also have escalated permissions). The fact that they didn't do anything in past isn't any indicating that they won't do anything now.

DIDNT DO ANYTHING IN THE PAST?
How about a shitload of banned 3dses lol

 

[MHDestination]

Nintendo can simply check running processes and even memory and easily identify if a CFW is running (since it will most definitely run with modified processes which also have escalated permissions). The fact that they didn't do anything in past isn't any indicating that they won't do anything now.

Not only currently running processes. It stores a full history of processes that have been running.

 

[Goloki]

That said, I'd be curious to see if EmuNAND is actually necessary for people on 5.0.2. If we're to believe that Nintendo cannot patch fusee gelee, then EmuNAND is surely only useful for people on older firmwares such as 3.0.0. where software exploits are used.

Unless I'm missing something.

I guess the main reason to have an emuNAND is to be able to update it while keeping the lower firmware on the regular NAND for easier access to Atmosphere. I don't know if a coldboot is possible in 5.0.2, but if it were, it might be made more difficult to achieve in later firmwares. So keeping your regular NAND on a lower firmware does have its advantages.

Of course, the lower your firmware in the first place, the better.