London Terror Attack(s)

[Tigran]

Can you give me even one conservative few that isn't trying to stop the rights of someone else?

 

[CallmeBerto]

I'm assuming you guys are talking about refugees and immigration. You can't blame the French or Germans for trying to do good. There is one clear group of people who are solely responsible for this shit.

Agreed. However doing good while getting the shaft is not being moral and good it's being foolish. If they really wanted to help these people they would have spent money on re-build their cities, land etc. Think about these people don't speak our language, we have completely different cultures what we are doing is really cruel. The first generation of these people will never prosper here. They will be stuck on welfare for 2-3 generations until their children learn our language.

 

[Tigran]

good point and no dout they were brain washed by British born extremists but we all know this is only a prelude of things to come if this dont get sorted NOW!!!

I agree... Which is why we need to find -why- these people are so easily becoming radicalized instead of throwing more mud at muslims.

 

[the_randomizer]

Can you give me even one conservative few that isn't trying to stop the rights of someone else?

Nah, I'd rather just bail because like I said, these debates are a lost cause

Can you give one example of a liberal not throwing a tantrum when people called for an investigation against Clinton? Or an example of a liberal not getting all up in arms when terrorists are called terrorist and not some other PC term?

Bloody hell this is ridiculous.

 

[Tigran]

Sure.. I didn't throw a hissy fit. I thought it was stupid because most of the people who where whining about emails don't even know how they work. (here is a hint.. You can't just magically get rid of thousands of emails).

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Nah, I'd rather just bail because like I said, these debates are a lost cause

Can you give one example of a liberal not throwing a tantrum when people called for an investigation against Clinton? Or an example of a liberal not getting all up in arms when terrorists are called terrorist and not some other PC term?

Bloody hell this is ridiculous.

Also, I'm all for calling terrorists terrorists. Problem is, most people seem horrified to call the recent white terrorists terrorists.

 

[TheDarkGreninja]

Nah, I'd rather just bail because like I said, these debates are a lost cause

Can you give one example of a liberal not throwing a tantrum when people called for an investigation against Clinton? Or an example of a liberal not getting all up in arms when terrorists are called terrorist and not some other PC term?

Bloody hell this is ridiculous.

Now that is something I can get behind!

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Sure.. I didn't throw a hissy fit. I thought it was stupid because most of the people who where whining about emails don't even know how they work. (here is a hint.. You can't just magically get rid of thousands of emails).

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Also, I'm all for calling terrorists terrorists. Problem is, most people seem horrified to call the recent white terrorists terrorists.

May I ask Tigran, what are your beliefs anyways?

 

[Tigran]

My believes are probably considered liberal.

I'm all for liberties for everyone, and equal rights. The problem is most of the religious conservative groups *largest being christian in the USA* is against that, because it gives up their power.

I'm also an Atheist cause there are no gods, or if there are, they are assholes who don't deserve anyone giving them the time of day.

 

[CallmeBerto]

My believes are probably considered liberal.

I'm all for liberties for everyone, and equal rights. The problem is most of the religious conservative groups *largest being christian in the USA* is against that, because it gives up their power.

I'm also an Atheist cause there are no gods, or if there are, they are assholes who don't deserve anyone giving them the time of day.

Same same ha!

 

[TheDarkGreninja]

My believes are probably considered liberal.

I'm all for liberties for everyone, and equal rights. The problem is most of the religious conservative groups *largest being christian in the USA* is against that, because it gives up their power.

I'm also an Atheist cause there are no gods, or if there are, they are assholes who don't deserve anyone giving them the time of day.

Interesting.
I'm a muslim centrist.

 

[WeedZ]

Agreed. However doing good while getting the shaft is not being moral and good it's being foolish. If they really wanted to help these people they would have spent money on re-build their cities, land etc. Think about these people don't speak our language, we have completely different cultures what we are doing is really cruel. The first generation of these people will never prosper here. They will be stuck on welfare for 2-3 generations until their children learn our language.

There's not much we can do for them. You're talking about globalized socialism, which i agree with on some levels. But even that won't be enough. They're in the state they're in because of their culture. I don't agree that allowing them to freely enter the country is necessarily a good idea. I'm just saying it's not their fault that handfuls of bad apples take advantage of this to push a radical Islamic agenda. I'm not going to pretend to have the answers. If it were up to me all organized religions would be banned and, aside from a few that would be catalogued for historic purpose, all biblical text from any dogma would be destroyed.

 

[TheDarkGreninja]

There's not much we can do for them. You're talking about globalized socialism, which i agree with on some levels. But even that won't be enough. They're in the state they're in because of their culture. I don't agree that allowing them to freely enter the country is necessarily a good idea. I'm just saying it's not their fault that handfuls of bad apples take advantage of this to push a radical Islamic agenda. I'm not going to pretend to have the answers. If it were up to me all organized religions would be banned and, aside from a few that would be catalogued for historic purpose, all biblical text from any dogma would be destroyed.

I'd consider that harsh, seeing as how any ideology can be taken advantage of and used to kill people, to pin this all on religion is a little insipid if you ask me.
And it's not like we can ban ideology.

 

[Tigran]

Interesting.
I'm a muslim centrist.

I personally don't care what god people worship, even if I think it's ridiculous. After all my uncle is (or at least was) a very high position in the Atlanta Baptist Association.

However, their personal religion does not have any place in school and laws. Especially when the US constitution specifically says that.

When I worked at a video store (called Video Update) I had no problems when church leaders came in to rent videos. None of my damn business. It did -become- my business however when one threw holy water on my face because I -dared!- to suggest "Pokemon the first movie."

Or that a friend of mine should be killed because he was gay. (Guy wasn't... Feminine as hell.. yes, flamboyant? Yes..but straight). Because why? Some persons Sky Daddy said so!

 

[TheDarkGreninja]

I personally don't care what god people worship, even if I think it's ridiculous. After all my uncle is (or at least was) a very high position in the Atlanta Baptist Association.

However, their personal religion does not have any place in school and laws. Especially when the US constitution specifically says that.

When I worked at a video store (called Video Update) I had no problems when church leaders came in to rent videos. None of my damn business. It did -become- my business however when one threw holy water on my face because I -dared!- to suggest "Pokemon the first movie."

Or that a friend of mine should be killed because he was gay. (Guy wasn't... Feminine as hell.. yes, flamboyant? Yes..but straight). Because why? Some persons Sky Daddy said so!

I couldn't agree more.

 

[WeedZ]

I'd consider that harsh, seeing as how any ideology can be taken advantage of and used to kill people, to pin this all on religion is a little insipid if you ask me.
And it's not like we can ban ideology.

True we can't. But in my hypothetical world people would be entitled to believe whatever they wanted. organizing is what would be illegal. My theory is, we would have nothing to fight over. No conservatives, no liberals, no radicals, no one pushing their views on others, violent or otherwise. But as with any other post here, it's just my opinion.

 

[TheDarkGreninja]

True we can't. But in my hypothetical world people would be entitled to believe whatever they wanted. organizing is what would be illegal. My theory is, we would have nothing to fight over. No conservatives, no liberals, no radicals, no one pushing their views on others, violent or otherwise. But as with any other post here, it's just my opinion.

I'd love to discuss this with you further but I think we've digressed enough.

 

[Ghost]

Ayep... Fox News special snowflake.

Beats a CNN sycophant any day ;O;

Both of these media outlets are trash as they're too biased towards the left or right.

 

[Joe88]

Police have confirmed 6 people have died, 30 injured.
3 of the attackers have been shot and killed by police, 1 suspect may still be on the loose.
They have also said that the suicide vests the attackers were wearing were fake.

 

[Todderbert]

Yeah this is serious but we shouldn't let terrorists manipulate our emotions. That's what they're aiming for. They want to spread hatred in people.

They awake vengance and the idea that terrorism is a cancer that needs to be burned out where its found.

Time to get the M.O.P.

 

[Tigran]

Yeah, that would be lot of help if these where homegrown.

 

[Falconcrest64]

Yeah this is serious but we shouldn't let terrorists manipulate our emotions. That's what they're aiming for. They want to spread hatred in people.

Amen to that,amigo

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I'd consider that harsh, seeing as how any ideology can be taken advantage of and used to kill people, to pin this all on religion is a little insipid if you ask me.
And it's not like we can ban ideology.

Using religion for an excuse for murder is just downright idiotic...people make their own choices,their holy book of choice does not do it for them...