UPDATE: Regarding the recent 3DS banwave

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It appears that users are being banned from 3DS online services, en masse. There's no direct cause right now, and seemingly no linking factor. This post is meant as an announcement for users, to be wary, and that GBAtemp will keep you updated as soon as more info rolls in. If you have been banned, please post in the thread below, and we will try to keep tabs on the situation. To be extra sure, it can't hurt to turn off your 3DS's wireless capabilities, so you might as well do that for now.

Edit 1: it appears that e-Shop access isn't restricted if you are banned.

Edit 2: A caller to Nintendo reported that the company said this ban is due to "unauthorized software usage".

Edit 3: @LinkSoraZelda is collecting info. Contact him if you are banned.

Edit 4: Click and fill this out if you were BANNED.

Edit 5:
[11:28:19 PM] Clector: Curiously the page of that error in Nintendo Support website used to have this:Error Code: 002-0102 Situation: You receive the error code 002-0102 when attempting to connect online. What to Do: If you continue to experience this issue, please contact Nintendo by calling 1-800-255-3700. Representatives are available from 6 a.m. to 7 p.m., Pacific Time, 7 days a week.
[11:28:44 PM] Clector: Now it says this: What to Do: If you are experiencing this error code, your Nintendo 3DS family system has been banned due to unauthorized system modifications, play of unauthorized versions of one or more games, and/or connecting to the official game servers in violation of our terms of service. This ban is effective immediately and requests to remove the ban will not be processed.
Thanks to @Joom

Edit 6: Aurora Wright is taking another poll here

Edit 7: Not a lot is known but

There are bans happening, they are happening in all regions.
All models in the 3ds family seem to be candidates for banning.
There is no indication they will be anything other than permanent.
A game or DLC may end up being a cause but there is no one game or DLC that ties banned users together.
The cause or causes are as yet unknown, though it does seem to be related to modifications. Reports of unmodified consoles being banned are as yet unproven.
The banning is tied to something you can modify, thus you can unban. Doing it while the causes are unknown is likely only going to burn a working token though.
There are semi public tokens out there, Nintendo knows how to browse a forum as well as you so don't be surprised if they also get banned.
It does not seem to be limited to a given base firmware version, it does not seem to be limited to any one custom firmware type. There is some speculation that older hacking methods are not being hit as hard but nothing to confirm this yet.
The data collection could have happened this morning, or it could have been months in the making.
A simple check to see is checking your friends list, by itself it will not ban you.
Some are turning their wifi off. It is doubtful this will be of much use and being banned does not seem to come with any downsides that wifi being off will not also mimic.
You may have escaped a ban thus far but it could happen at any point. It could be that they stop in the future, it has happened on other consoles, but you would be living in hope rather than any particularly well founded logic.
The bans are done on the side of Nintendo's servers rather than your 3ds so there is also that.

If you hack your devices/games then their online functionality may be troubled. This has been known for decades, Nintendo seems to have finally caught up with that.

Please continue to share information with the thread or the links in previous edits.

Update 5/30

HOW TO HELP AVOID BANS (we think)​

If I was to guess from the information we have gathered since the ban wave, it seems likely that they are looking for TitleIDs that don't exist. Homebrew shows up in the activity log as the Download Play app, and fake CIA's show up as just ??????. That last one is what I'm guessing they are looking for.

If you are not banned yet or before you unban yourself, go into your friends list, choose settings, and turn off the option to "show friends what game you are playing." This will prevent you from playing games online with friends, so turn it back on when you wanna game with someone, but ALWAYS keep it off when running custom CIAs. Next, go into system settings -> internet settings -> spotpass, and turn off BOTH options. One is auto download software, the other sends system information to Nintendo. Also, make sure you don't have your favorite title set to something stupid like FBI or any other non-Nintendo CIA.

Its VERY likely that these options are what tipped off Nintendo, but we aren't 100% certain yet. The amount of banned people that had one of these options turned on was over 80% for each. If I was to assume that some of those people overlap, its very possible (but not confirmed) that 100% of banned people in the survey had at least one of those options turned on. I personally had all of them off and I have TONS of reasons for Nintendo to ban me.... yet I am not banned (yet).

Another bit of advice: Only run custom CIAs when offline, and after you close them, run a "legit" game like Smash Bros. or something before shutting down or going back online. This way your most recent title won't show up as a fake CIA

Current Theories as to what causes a ban
* SpotPass Settings: 8 users out of 46 users that were banned have SpotPass completely shut off, or SpotPass only (no friends list visibility)
* Firmware Version (Luma, Nintendo): Literally all reports ranged from 10.2+, I can get exact numbers for this if you'd like, but all firmwares were affected.
* Firmware Type (A9LH, B9S): 44 of the 126 B9S users that answered were banned, pattern was mirrored for A9LH users as well.
* Homebrew Titles such as FBI, HBL, Luma Updater, Themely, and freeShop: Literally about 98% of users both banned and unbanned had some combination of these applications installed. However the common ones were: FBI, HBL, LumaUpdater and NTR.
* Save Modification: Equal amounts of users on both sides have reported save modification in some form, either with PKSM or another save editor
* System Transfers: 188 users said that they had not previously system transfered, 61 of those users were banned; 16 users said they transferred from a hacked console, only three of them received a ban; 13 said they transferred from a stock system and likewise were banned. The rest of our sample did not answer this question.
* Activity Log Information: A majority of those who have not been banned have said they had NOT cleaned their activity logs. I can get exact numbers for this too on request.

This information is just what I've found. Like I said, there could be variables or things we haven't even checked for yet. But these are things that I feel should be disproven, at least with the current dataset we have.

  • From the information that we've gathered from some people that have used a packet sniffer such as WireShark, the following data is sent to Nintendo's online gaming servers as soon as the 3DS connects to the internet:
    • Amount of time spent online (timer stops when either the system is disconnected from the internet, or connection drops out, then starts the timer again in a new session when it reconnects to the internet).
    • The game being played and amount of time spent on it during that session.
    • The console's unique hexadecimal ID used in the LocalFriendCodeSeedB, along with it's RSA-signed signature.
    • The console's serial number in which is broadcasted from the SoC and is hard coded in the SoC.
    • Friend Code generated on the Nintendo 3DS system, if one has been generated.
    • Internet connection status (either online or offline).
    • The Nintendo Network ID, if there is one linked to it.
    • Even if the sending of SpotPass Information is switched off, or even hiding your currently playing games. It does not prevent the system from sending currently playing information to Nintendo's online gaming servers, it only hides it from your friends in your friend list (like being invisible on the forum, while mods and admins can still see you). Why? Because even people without a Friend Code on their system have been getting banned too!

  • The following data is NOT sent to Nintendo's online gaming servers:
    • The data from the Nintendo 3DS's Activity Log. Oddly enough, while Nintendo does explicitly state that they collect Activity Log data, they're actually referring to their own server's Activity Log, which always tracks every console's online activity, and keeps a record of them that is stored forever. And is only collected in increments of data through a timer and a currently playing list.
    • Games or apps that have not been played, regardless if they're legitimate or not. You only get tracked when you're online and using that game or app.
    • Using games or apps while offline. Even though it is stored on the 3DS console's Activity Log, that data is NOT sent to Nintendo's online gaming servers.
    • Custom Firmware. Though we can't rule out the possibility of them releasing a 3DS update in the future that adds such function to collect MD5 hashes of files and FIRM data and send them to Nintendo online gaming servers (which would also be updated in a maintenance).

  • Things that people think what happens with consoles, but really doesn't:
    • "LocalFriendCodeSeedB is transferred to the system upon doing a system transfer". This is false, the LocalFriendCodeSeedB remains on the system and does not move to another system.
    • "The console generates a LocalFriendCodeSeedB upon first startup". Again, this is false, the LocalFriendCodeSeedB is made during the manufacturing process at Foxconn. It is generated at the factory, flashed to the NAND flash memory storage, then created as an account on Nintendo's online gaming server and Nintendo eShop server immediately when being manufactured. It is absolutely impossible to generate a LocalFriendCodeSeedB and be able to connect to Nintendo's online gaming server and/or Nintendo eShop server, even if you knew the RSA generation key for it. You'd end up with Error Code 002-0102 "This console's online services have been restricted by Nintendo" if you even tried (the error can either mean two things: The hexadecimal ID doesn't exist on the server, or the request to access the hexadecimal ID has been denied which in other words... banned). So a LocalFriendCodeSeedB generator will NEVER happen! Because it's not worth doing, if it can't connect.
    • Switching off "Currently Playing" information. Once again, this does not hide your online activity from Nintendo's online gaming server, it only hides it from your friends.
    • Switching off SpotPass. Nope, this too doesn't hide your online activity from Nintendo's online gaming server, it only opts-out of receiving SpotPass data, sorry.

So pretty much the bottom line is, if anyone has been using custom apps and/or titles not installed through Nintendo eShop while online in the past, guess what? You're screwed! And it is only a matter of time before your console's unique hexadecimal ID in the LocalFriendCodeSeedB is banned from Nintendo's online gaming server. This will mean, your console can't access the Friend List or play any online functions in games.

If you have been online while using custom apps and/or titles not installed through Nintendo eShop and haven't been banned yet, that's because Nintendo hasn't caught up to you yet. They're still going through each unique hexadecimal ID's Activity Log on their server, and by Activity Log, I mean the Activity Log on their server, not the 3DS console's activity log. And it will be only a matter of time before you're banned too.

Thanks to @Platinum Lucario @MadMageKefka and @ShadowEO !
 

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What's up with people telling unbanned users to not access the internet? Not having the wi-if on an unbanned console is practically the same as having a banned 3ds lol.


How about because blocking/spoofing/hiding whatever they are using to detect cfw/mods is almost certainly going to be easier than unbanning a permabanned system. Think about it, if you had to choose between a 5/10/15 or even 30 day temporary "ban" and a permaban would you seriously pick the permaban?
 

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Its a valid point. If you are playing legitimate games on an untouched console then your not going to get banned. I personally havent checked mine as I dont use online and if I am banned then oh well..
Too lazy to explain, so I'll let AW do it.
[08:45:23 AM] AuroraWright: Joom for piracy to be the cause they'd need to get your tickets
[08:45:32 AM] AuroraWright: pirated titles are identical except for the ticket signature
[08:45:39 AM] AuroraWright: and they don't get your tickets
 

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Well, I finally decided to chime in on this.
Personally, I have not been banned. I am on 11.4 with B9S installed. I use JKSM on a daily basis and have downloaded and installed games from freeshop. Until yesterday, I've also had the sending of information to Nintendo enabled.
Also, not that it matters but just to give you guys a little more insight, I don'r really play online multiplayer very often, though I do trade Pokemon every now and then. I've never been banned from anything, not because of cheating, not because of the leaked version of Pokemon Moon or because of any other reason.

The first thing I'd like to say is that I've seen a lot of people here hating on Nintendo for banning CFW users. This is completely asinine. Nintendo have been very very liberal regarding online functionality of pirated games in the past, with no countermeasures taken on the Wii, the Wii U, the DS and the 3DS until now. Compared to other companies, that is pretty unusual. Just look at the Xbox 360. Nintendo banning CFW users from their online services is completely justified, as we are violating their Terms of Service, it's that simple.

Secondly, we just need to get more information on this. From what I've read, only American users seem to be affected, right? Maybe it's a trend that will make its way into other regions in the following days or weeks. As for the cause of the bans, instead of focusing on some weird settings like the sending of information via SpotPass, I think we should focus on something different: How intensively have the banned individuals used apps like freeshop? Are we talking about 5-10 downloaded titles or over 100? If I was Nintendo, I would focus on banning the biggest "threats" first and foremost. I am sure we will get that information as time goes on, for now, I guess it's best to keep calm.

From my perspective the timing of this ban wave is very peculiar. Is it a panic reaction to sighax? Or was this timeframe chosen because of the impending release of the N2DS XL? Now, that second point may seem like a bit of a conspiracy theory but hear me out: As soon as I've read that there was a ban wave happenning, I checked both my O3DS and N3DS XL if I was affected. After I saw that I wasn't banned (yet), I thought about what I would do if I would have been, or if I would be banned in the future, and I came to the conclusion that I'd just go ahead and buy a N2DS XL since they're very cheap and good looking anyway, so I could use that to play my legitimate titles online. I am 100% sure that I wasn't the only one who thought about this as a possible solution.


TBH, I had more points that I wanted to write about here but I've really got to mow my lawn now, smell ya later.
 

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Still not banned as of an hour ago. Frankly I don't even care if they do ban me, since I never go online anyway. It's simple, people... either keep your system stock and enjoy online, or mod it and stay offline. I understand that this banwave sucks, but did you honestly not see it coming eventually? The problem here is that we've all been spoiled for so long, being able to have online with CFW. But that party is over now, folks.
 

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Checking to see if any big news has happened, it seems it hasn't
Haven't checked my 3DS since last night, and likely won't until this slows down

Someone mentioned a few pages ago (and by that, I mean 20-30 pages ago, haha) that they unbanned their 3DS by removing all CFW and Homebrew related things from their 3DS, and then going online. As unlikely as that seems, if the banning is an automated process, it's entirely possible that it works both ways
So, an unbanned 3DS getting detected for whatever is causing the bans results in said 3DS getting banned. But, assuming banned 3DS consoles still send data to Nintendo, if said console has all homebrew stuff removed, and then sends data to Nintendo reflecting that, it is possible the automated ban process notices this banned 3DS no longer fits the criteria for being banned and it automatically lifts the ban?

Also, would removing all homebrew stuff to essentially turn one's 3DS back into a "normal" 3DS require a NAND backup from before the console got CFW? I think the friend who installed CFW for me did a NAND backup of my console as part of the CFW process, but I have no idea if he kept it (hopefully he did, since it is an important thing to have)
I'd be willing to abandon 3DS homebrew, at least until Nintendo stops supporting the 3DS or these ban waves stop entirely
 

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Ight calm down guys.instead of fighting let's try and get the support of the big hackers like smealm and other people if they have not gone into it
We haven't heard anything from them yet, and I don't think they've got any motivation to help us out either.

Checking to see if any big news has happened, it seems it hasn't
Haven't checked my 3DS since last night, and likely won't until this slows down

Someone mentioned a few pages ago (and by that, I mean 20-30 pages ago, haha) that they unbanned their 3DS by removing all CFW and Homebrew related things from their 3DS, and then going online. As unlikely as that seems, if the banning is an automated process, it's entirely possible that it works both ways
So, an unbanned 3DS getting detected for whatever is causing the bans results in said 3DS getting banned. But, assuming banned 3DS consoles still send data to Nintendo, if said console has all homebrew stuff removed, and then sends data to Nintendo reflecting that, it is possible the automated ban process notices this banned 3DS no longer fits the criteria for being banned and it automatically lifts the ban?

Also, would removing all homebrew stuff to essentially turn one's 3DS back into a "normal" 3DS require a NAND backup from before the console got CFW? I think the friend who installed CFW for me did a NAND backup of my console as part of the CFW process, but I have no idea if he kept it (hopefully he did, since it is an important thing to have)
I'd be willing to abandon 3DS homebrew, at least until Nintendo stops supporting the 3DS or these ban waves stop entirely
If you got banned, and unban yourself, even by replacing your current nand with a "Clean" one will only make you waste your time. Nintendo already knows YOUR CONSOLE has been compromised and will re-apply the ban on the newer nand.
 
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Well, I finally decided to chime in on this.
Personally, I have not been banned. I am on 11.4 with B9S installed. I use JKSM on a daily basis and have downloaded and installed games from freeshop. Until yesterday, I've also had the sending of information to Nintendo enabled.
Also, not that it matters but just to give you guys a little more insight, I don'r really play online multiplayer very often, though I do trade Pokemon every now and then. I've never been banned from anything, not because of cheating, not because of the leaked version of Pokemon Moon or because of any other reason.

The first thing I'd like to say is that I've seen a lot of people here hating on Nintendo for banning CFW users. This is completely asinine. Nintendo have been very very liberal regarding online functionality of pirated games in the past, with no countermeasures taken on the Wii, the Wii U, the DS and the 3DS until now. Compared to other companies, that is pretty unusual. Just look at the Xbox 360. Nintendo banning CFW users from their online services is completely justified, as we are violating their Terms of Service, it's that simple.

Secondly, we just need to get more information on this. From what I've read, only American users seem to be affected, right? Maybe it's a trend that will make its way into other regions in the following days or weeks. As for the cause of the bans, instead of focusing on some weird settings like the sending of information via SpotPass, I think we should focus on something different: How intensively have the banned individuals used apps like freeshop? Are we talking about 5-10 downloaded titles or over 100? If I was Nintendo, I would focus on banning the biggest "threats" first and foremost. I am sure we will get that information as time goes on, for now, I guess it's best to keep calm.

From my perspective the timing of this ban wave is very peculiar. Is it a panic reaction to sighax? Or was this timeframe chosen because of the impending release of the N2DS XL? Now, that second point may seem like a bit of a conspiracy theory but hear me out: As soon as I've read that there was a ban wave happenning, I checked both my O3DS and N3DS XL if I was affected. After I saw that I wasn't banned (yet), I thought about what I would do if I would have been, or if I would be banned in the future, and I came to the conclusion that I'd just go ahead and buy a N2DS XL since they're very cheap and good looking anyway, so I could use that to play my legitimate titles online. I am 100% sure that I wasn't the only one who thought about this as a possible solution.


TBH, I had more points that I wanted to write about here but I've really got to mow my lawn now, smell ya later.
People from Europe, Australia and Japan has been banned as well.

People without Freeshop ever installed has been banned too.

If you're not banned yet, you'll probably be soon.
 
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Smea isn't going to do shit about this, nor does he have any reason to. He works on stuff strictly in userland, and anything to do with CFW/A9LH/B9S is of no concern to him.
 

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Someone mentioned a few pages ago (and by that, I mean 20-30 pages ago, haha) that they unbanned their 3DS by removing all CFW and Homebrew related things from their 3DS, and then going online. As unlikely as that seems, if the banning is an automated process, it's entirely possible that it works both ways
So, an unbanned 3DS getting detected for whatever is causing the bans results in said 3DS getting banned. But, assuming banned 3DS consoles still send data to Nintendo, if said console has all homebrew stuff removed, and then sends data to Nintendo reflecting that, it is possible the automated ban process notices this banned 3DS no longer fits the criteria for being banned and it automatically lifts the ban?

Also, would removing all homebrew stuff to essentially turn one's 3DS back into a "normal" 3DS require a NAND backup from before the console got CFW? I think the friend who installed CFW for me did a NAND backup of my console as part of the CFW process, but I have no idea if he kept it (hopefully he did, since it is an important thing to have)
I'd be willing to abandon 3DS homebrew, at least until Nintendo stops supporting the 3DS or these ban waves stop entirely
I think you're talking about my post
I have to tell you that the source of that are dubious at best (a latin america facebook page), and so far I have seen no confirmation of this working.
I would wait for more information
 

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At this rate we either just wait a week to see how things are or just keep pressing the panic mode in this huge thread, b/c nothing has changed since the wave started
we dont know the accurate cause
 
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i've been reading that for some their miiverse is banned as well. my miiverse still works though. are there different kinds of bans?
 

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So ONLY CFW users have been banned and any ordinary 3DS have yet to be confirmed as banned, correct?
Also, from what I understand, most people have been using Doodlebomb on the most recent firmware... I myself do not have any CFW, but I have freakyhax to access Homebrew for save editing. Have another other entrypoints been tested?
 

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Hulo here~
Got my 2 3ds banned old and new with b9s, luma, fbi etc spotpass was on aand.. uh thats it. Tried to unban and it did not work even with public lfcs x) cant access eshop either nor my nnid profile lol.
 

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