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Was just thinking, as I perused the options for buying Resident Evil 7 on my PC. It's digital dload only at a very high price, with physical copies on xbone and ps4 already a lot cheaper (new and used). Screw digital only!

Nintendo is releasing retail games, that don't require activation, subscriptions or internet access to play (single player), and give you full rights of resale. pc, ps4 and xbone have all been creeping in with these offensive, annoying, and (to me) unacceptable practices. Gets worse every year. Only ONE company that isn't pushing hard with that shit and it's Nintendo. Strange, from the company that fights emus and fought game rentals back in the day.

Years, decades down the line, which system do you think will still work. The one with an optical reader and spinning optical disc, or the one with a cartridge/sd card? I'll tell you this...I've seen plenty of failed disc consoles (drive failues), and I've pulled out atari 2600s from like 1979 and they and their carts still work perfectly.
 

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Was just thinking, as I perused the options for buying Resident Evil 7 on my PC. It's digital dload only at a very high price, with physical copies on xbone and ps4 already a lot cheaper (new and used). Screw digital only!

Nintendo is releasing retail games, that don't require activation, subscriptions or internet access to play (single player), and give you full rights of resale. pc, ps4 and xbone have all been creeping in with these offensive, annoying, and (to me) unacceptable practices. Gets worse every year. Only ONE company that isn't pushing hard with that shit and it's Nintendo. Strange, from the company that fights emus and fought game rentals back in the day.

Years, decades down the line, which system do you think will still work. The one with an optical reader and spinning optical disc, or the one with a cartridge/sd card? I'll tell you this...I've seen plenty of failed disc consoles (drive failues), and I've pulled out atari 2600s from like 1979 and they and their carts still work perfectly.
Eventually cart storage will be the better option, but when they became cheap to produce and gets even bigger storage. Blu ray discs are cheap af so no wonder why they keep using those.

By the way, what? You can still resell your ps4 games, what are you talking about?
 

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I hear ya...it wasn't just the right of resale that I was referring to as an annoying practice. But on PC, that option is already gone. That is the future across all platforms unless we fight it and support retail games. Nintendo is strong in retail.
 

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But the carts are expensive :(

I bet devs won't be pushing production on those carts as much as eshop download only titles.:unsure:
That likely depends on what people do. If everyone buys cartridges when possible, it may show companies that carts are still in demand. (This plan breaks down as soon as a popular game is digital only.)
 

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But the carts are expensive :(

I bet devs won't be pushing production on those carts as much as eshop download only titles.:unsure:

what's truly more expensive? the 60 dollar game you can resell, or the 40 or 50 dollar game you can't resell? truly, the one you can resell is cheaper even if it costs more.

Just as an example (and as a zelda collector I'm keeping my BotW Wii U, it's gonna be rare someday due to switch making most of the sales), but my game that cost 50, could be sold for 40+, making my "rental" of the game pretty cheap for having and playing weeks on end.
 

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I'm just saying that companies don't really like when we resell their products cause they don't obtain any of that money.Yes is true that we have right and such, yes carts are in demand. I like carts too, i rather switch my game on the system than have it all hog up space on storage for games that don't have cart forms. But i was just saying that by the way it seems, those carts are expensive and would discourage devs for using them in favor of cheaper items. I dunno how much they care for us and possible demand or reselling. :(

Is just a matter of buying games you want to keep not resell for cheaper purchase of digital only no resell option, sure is bad for us but is a thought how another pov is from dev side of things.
 

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@Gadd You can resell Xbox One and PS4 disks. Most games doesn't even try to pull the "online pass" trick, now publishers try to get people to buy them new with "Day 1" DLCs and similar moves.
 

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@Gadd You can resell Xbox One and PS4 disks. Most games doesn't even try to pull the "online pass" trick, now publishers try to get people to buy them new with "Day 1" DLCs and similar moves.

fight hard to keep it that way, as I said...pc games are now virtually dload ONLY and it sucks big time.
 

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