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O3DS died of juic-err "water" damage (r.i.p since yesterday) and I want to upgrade to N3DS since my b-day is this October. It's OCTOBER 2015. Likely all new N3DSes (lol) are above 9.2 so I lose GW and CIAs.
Wat do.
EDIT: Canada BTW
 
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https://gbatemp.net/threads/n3ds-xl-firmware-by-version-number.381479/
Follow this thread, check the serial number, make sure it's a guaranteed 9.2 or below one before buying.
Problem.
It's a gift (read: Lottery) which I doubt I can get a return receipt for, but I can try. Anyway, I don't see any special bundles (e.g. 9.2 MH4U edition) and both black and red have been reported to be 9.4+ now.
At this point most systems will have a firmware above 9.2. You should work off the assumption that any serial number not on this list will be above 9.2.
 

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about 2 weeks ago i got a red new3ds at a local walmart in ont, canada. The serial code matched a 9.0U. The link the previous person provided was a lot of help. It takes a bit of digging but there are still plenty of n3ds 9.2/below out there
 

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about 2 weeks ago i got a red new3ds at a local walmart in ont, canada. The serial code matched a 9.0U. The link the previous person provided was a lot of help. It takes a bit of digging but there are still plenty of n3ds 9.2/below out there
Near Hamilton? It's not where I live, just the nearest Walmart.
 

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Problem.
It's a gift (read: Lottery) which I doubt I can get a return receipt for, but I can try. Anyway, I don't see any special bundles (e.g. 9.2 MH4U edition) and both black and red have been reported to be 9.4+ now.
Well, there's still hope. You can always sell it new unused on eBay, craigslist or similar, and buy another console for the money.
 
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Well, there's still hope. You can always sell it new unused on eBay, craigslist or similar, and buy another console for the money.
Moral issues aside (I wouldn't mind it of course, but...) a gift is one of those things where turning around and selling it makes you a bit of a douche. I'll go for the more innocent-looking... "return" ;)
 

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Moral issues aside (I wouldn't mind it of course, but...) a gift is one of those things where turning around and selling it makes you a bit of a douche. I'll go for the more innocent-looking... "return" ;)
Well, if you sell it and buy an identical model on 9.0-9.2, no one will be able to tell the difference :P
 

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Why don't you ask for a "credit" for your birthday instead, and source it second hand where you can ask what the firmware or serial number is?
"Hey, can I get $230 in Walmart gift cards, pleeeeeaaase?"


Oooh, question: Any chance of NAND modding a broken 3DS like mine?
 
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Go put it in rice for 3 days, worked when mine got water damage.
If you don't mind paying a little extra (for me $60 more) you can try eBay for a 9.0-9.2 firmware 3DS.
 

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Your getting System NAND confused with Emulated NAND.
Currently Gateway needs the System NAND to be 9.2 or below in firmware, and can spoof up to 10.1 3DS, 9.5 N3DS.
Oh ok thanks it's all still new too me

is there anywhere I can get that information in one place so I'll be able to understand your explanation thoroughly?
 

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Your getting System NAND confused with Emulated NAND.
Currently Gateway needs the System NAND to be 9.2 or below in firmware, and can spoof up to 10.1 3DS, 9.5 N3DS.
I have searched about what you said a bit and I have a question does my New 3DS XL needs to be below 9.2 System NAND for the gateway I linked to work? or does a System NAND of 9.5.0 will also work? or am I still confused about this matter?
 

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I have searched about what you said a bit and I have a question does my New 3DS XL needs to be below 9.2 System NAND for the gateway I linked to work? or does a System NAND of 9.5.0 will also work? or am I still confused about this matter?
Sysnand 9.2 and below will work. Sysnand 9.5 will NOT. What you got confused was emunand. You use sysnand 9.2 to exploit the system and then install an emunand that can go no higher than 9.5 as of now. If it was an old 3ds you could install emunand higher than 9.5. Gateway only works with sysnand 9.2 and below. So yeah. If anything look for a sysnand of 9.2 and below.
 

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Sysnand 9.2 and below will work. Sysnand 9.5 will NOT. What you got confused was emunand. You use sysnand 9.2 to exploit the system and then install an emunand that can go no higher than 9.5 as of now. If it was an old 3ds you could install emunand higher than 9.5. Gateway only works with sysnand 9.2 and below. So yeah. If anything look for a sysnand of 9.2 and below.
so does that mean I cant use my gateway at all or I just cant use amuNAND because my sysNAND is 9.5.0?

if I cant use emuNAND now does it mean I will never be able too or someone will probably figure that out?
 
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so does that mean I cant use my gateway at all or I just cant use amuNAND because my sysNAND is 9.5.0?

if I cant use emuNAND now does it mean I will never be able too or someone will probably figure that out?
As of this moment, what is your sysnand? turn off your console completely (not sleep mode), then turn it back on, and open settings and on the bottom right corner of the top screen it should tell you your firmware version. This is your SYSNAND. If it says anything above 9.2, then you're screwed. And you must wait until someone exploits systems that are at firmware versions 9.3 and above. If it does say 9.2 or lower, say like mine says Ver 9.2.0.0-20E, then it is supported. You can use your gateway, I recommend going to their website and downloading the manual and whatnot.

Emunand is basically a copy of your sysnand. Long story short, it is what people with firmware versions 9.2 and lower use to prevent irreversible damage to their 3ds. First, you need to have a system with firmware 9.2 and lower like I mentioned above. Once you satisfy this requirement then you can use gateway. If not, then you can't.

Think of it like an onion, emunand is the outermost layer and sysnand is the inner most layer. If you mess up your emunand, you can just peel off that layer and try again. But if you mess up your sysnand, you're done since there are no more layers. Also you need to be able to have the right sysnand first before you can use the emunand in the second place. In this case sysnand 9.2 AND LOWER. So check that first. If your 3ds has sysnand 9.2 and lower then we can talk. If not, then you're better off buying a Sky3DS.
 
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