Hacking When was the most recent email response from Team Gateway?

[Dust2dust]

if gateway was going to quit why leave in the brick code? Why not release 2.0b3 with the brick code removed and then call it a day and move on. who cares if someone steals their code if they are no longer in business

On the other hand, why would they care to release a brickcode-free version of 2.0b2 and then quit? How would they benefit from that? I don't think they would do that just out of kindness. That would only benefit the cloners, and remember, Gateway hates the chinese mafia.

 

[DestinyFeather]

if gateway was going to quit why leave in the brick code? Why not release 2.0b3 with the brick code removed and then call it a day and move on. who cares if someone steals their code if they are no longer in business

Because they still get money from it?
If you release a book, you don't suddenly release it for free on the internet because some random is still going to buy it several years onwards.

 

[jrr6415sun]

Because they still get money from it?
If you release a book, you don't suddenly release it for free on the internet because some random is still going to buy it several years onwards.

no one is going to buy gateway when they get up and leave. And if they take their money and run, how can they still sell gateways or get money from it? The only way to keep getting money from gateways is to keep providing updates.

no one is going to buy a book if it's out of date, no updates are provided and not compatible with the device they are using. If the author promised updates (2.0 has only been "days away" for the last 3 months) and then took the money and ran away you think someone several years later is going to go oh lets buy this book what a great idea.

 

[DestinyFeather]

no one is going to buy gateway when they get up and leave. And if they take their money and run, how can they still sell gateways or get money from it? The only way to keep getting money from gateways is to keep providing updates.

no one is going to buy a book if it's out of date, no updates are provided and not compatible with the device they are using. If the author promised updates (2.0 has only been "days away" for the last 3 months) and then took the money and ran away you think someone several years later is going to go oh lets buy this book what a great idea.

Are they? Not condoning their business practices, but I've met plenty of people who've bought a flashcart and don't even understand what a software update is lmao.
If people are still playing and buying games from really old consoles, why would that be any different? At this point, if they don't have an exploit for 7+ what's even the point of them continuing to produce updates? I think they've already saturated their market and bricked their potential customers.

who cares if someone steals their code if they are no longer in business

I can't tell if I should applaud you on your incredible penchant towards sarcasm or whether you are just extremely naive.

 

[Enigma Hall]

How many people buy a Windows 95 book today?

If they don´t release the 2.0 the scene will take over and next year will have another products, like mt card with new fetures, and maybe a custom firmeware and homebrew. How many people will be running 2.0b?

Even gateway team could change name and launch a new product in secret and get profit. Is not a tentation? Sell a huge number of cards and can sell again to the same people. It could happen.

You people need think in all options.

 

[DestinyFeather]

How many people buy a Windows 95 book today?

If they don´t release the 2.0 the scene will take over and next year will have another products, like mt card with new fetures, and maybe a custom firmeware and homebrew. How many people will be running 2.0b?

Even gateway team could change name and launch a new product in secret and get profit. Is not a tentation? Sell a huge number of cards and can sell again to the same people. It could happen.

You people need think in all options.

I don't get your point, the author still isn't GOING TO RELEASE THEIR WORK FOR FREE. And who knows, someone might buy that book if they're emulating '95 on an app like iDOS - for example. Whereas if you released YOUR WORK FOR FREE, you have 100% guaranteed that you are not going to earn money from that - what a smart thing to do.

If they don´t release the 2.0 the scene will take over and next year will have another products, like mt card with new fetures, and maybe a custom firmeware and homebrew. How many people will be running 2.0b?

Even gateway team could change name and launch a new product in secret and get profit. Is not a tentation? Sell a huge number of cards and can sell again to the same people. It could happen.

Hopefully. But to me, it's quite dead.

 

[tHciNc]

The team is still well and truly alive, we are still in year 1 of the whole 3ds flashcart scene, people just complain, give opinions etc when it does nothing except spin the rumor mill, Although no team should give times/deadlines ever unless they are 100% confident they will hit it, as its ever evolving and just creates more doubt. And for those wondering the amount of legit beta testers is in the single digits, if people are that bummed out thinking its over, they are more than welcome to Mod MT's launcher to get multirom and so it will run on GW card... Oh thats right only a handful of people could do that and its the last thing they would bother doing

 

[WiiUBricker]

Gateway is stuck at 72%.

 

[Enigma Hall]

I don't get your point, the author still isn't GOING TO RELEASE THEIR WORK FOR FREE. And who knows, someone might buy that book if they're emulating '95 on an app like iDOS - for example. Whereas if you released YOUR WORK FOR FREE, you have 100% guaranteed that you are not going to earn money from that - what a smart thing to do.



Hopefully. But to me, it's quite dead.

Yes, you dont got my point.
If you think your windows 95 emulator buyers is enogh, ok, but now i prefer the Windows 8 book buyers. The point is, after a time even windows 8 will be old history and the profit will not be enogh. The paralel in this case is, if they don´t release the update gateway will become old history and will be swallow by new options. Then, what is the real reason for this delay? What is the gateway plan? They have a plan?They are trying sell the maximum before the update? They are trying sell the maximum before quit? Possibilities...

 

[arlips]

we are still in year 1 of the whole 3ds flashcart scene

The thing is, the 3DS flashcart "scene" is going to be stagnant/over pretty soon unless someone finds (and actually proves/uses) another exploit that can run on current official firmware. It's not going to be like the DS Lite where flashcarts could run wild on a system that didn't have firmware updates. Unless someone finds a way to softmod any 3DS, the scene is already pretty much at maximum capacity. <4.5 units are getting rarer and rarer and I wouldn't be surprised if flashcart sales have already slowed to a crawl.

 

[DestinyFeather]

Yes, you dont got my point.
If you think your windows 95 emulator buyers is enogh, ok, but now i prefer the Windows 8 book buyers. The point is, after a time even windows 8 will be old history and the profit will not be enogh.

The point is, people would rather die than give up their work for free. Case in point: copyright law expiring 70 years after the life of the author. Not exactly applicable to this, but the same idea: people are greedy and want to eke every bit of money they can out of it and if you think otherwise that's probably just you because the phrase 'the money makes the world go around' has some root in truth.

You might want to encourage other people to pirate your work (in this example, the book) but that's your decision and obviously not everyone else's decision.

Don't get me wrong, I'd love nintendo to give up their work for free as well but that ain't happening.

The paralel in this case is, if they don´t release the update gateway will become old history and will be swallow by new options.

There is no parallel at all in this case. Firstly, we are discussing here the author ENCOURAGING people to pirate their works nothing to do with any new options whatsoever- i.e. I am referring to this point made here:

who cares if someone steals their code if they are no longer in business

An exquisite display of sarcasm? Naiveness? Who knows?

if they don´t release the update gateway will become old history and will be swallow by new options

I don't understand how this relates to the removing the anti-brick code.
And in any case, I'd argue against this point that nobody has revealed anything new whatsoever and even if they did reveal something new it's going to be based on a firmware several firmware versions behind - exactly what you said, old history.

 

[groit]

The thing is, the 3DS flashcart "scene" is going to be stagnant/over pretty soon unless someone finds (and actually proves/uses) another exploit that can run on current official firmware. It's not going to be like the DS Lite where flashcarts could run wild on a system that didn't have firmware updates. Unless someone finds a way to softmod any 3DS, the scene is already pretty much at maximum capacity. <4.5 units are getting rarer and rarer and I wouldn't be surprised if flashcart sales have already slowed to a crawl.

Learn some faith.

 

[DestinyFeather]

The thing is, the 3DS flashcart "scene" is going to be stagnant/over pretty soon unless someone finds (and actually proves/uses) another exploit that can run on current official firmware. It's not going to be like the DS Lite where flashcarts could run wild on a system that didn't have firmware updates. Unless someone finds a way to softmod any 3DS, the scene is already pretty much at maximum capacity. <4.5 units are getting rarer and rarer and I wouldn't be surprised if flashcart sales have already slowed to a crawl.

This. In between bricking of 3dses which could potentially run your cart I don't know how the scene going to survive for much longer.

Which is bad for people like myself since you're not even halfway to proper cart support yet (by extension, emulation) and it has already ended with a whimper (rather than a bang).

 

[Enigma Hall]

No no, i´m not talking about brick code. What i´m talking is about the possibilities behind the delay, and what should happen if they dont release the 2.0 at all.

If the atualizations stop before the product reaches this maximum capacity is a loss to who had buy it. After is ok, if you buy a product with a last atualization about two years ago but doing all you need and expect, you had made a good buy.

 

[lambstone]

Well. My extra mSD cards arrived. Now I have a total of 8 cards. That should hold me for a while until/if 2.0 final comes out. If it doesn't I'll just get a MT card in half a year.

 

[ndstuff]

It's a common practice among flashcarts makers to suddenly disappear and come back after a while with the same product under a different brand so that you guys pay twice.

 

[RocketRon]

i've send them a email and still heared nothing about them. It's out and over for gateway users. The birds have been flying out.

 

[dragonmaster]

cause they didnt reply in your email it is over,well patince is a virtue in the old gba days 6months or more were needed in order to release an update but nowdays there is no patience .the scene was built upon their exploit so dont be ungratefull,see ps vita still baby steps...

 

[cabal_man]

Not normally one to bitch but... perhaps gateway would get the release done sooner if they weren't having to waste their time reading/deleting/answering all these inane emails people are sending them.

It will be done when it is done. They have no remit to deliver version 2 by any sort of deadline OR to remove their brick code so I imagine they will take their time and make sure they do a good job of it. I would imagine they are working to make a new brick code which is safe for gateway users, impossible to remove and breaks all the clones. They have already shown they want to protect their interests so I don't think we will see a release until they are sure they can. Why else would there be such a delay when we've already seen a demo of a near finished product?

A more optimistic viewpoint would be that they are working on new features.... perhaps related to the new encryption? Personally I think this is unlikely.

Anyway! Either wait patiently or take your business somewhere else. Really tired of reading people posting crap about gateway being finished or gateway re branding. We will just have to wait and see.

 

[ndstuff]

cause they didnt reply in your email it is over,well patince is a virtue in the old gba days 6months or more were needed in order to release an update but nowdays there is no patience .the scene was built upon their exploit so dont be ungratefull,see ps vita still baby steps...

except that they didn't discover the exploit