Casuals? Hardcore?

[Jehuty25]

I think hardcore would mean PC gaming. Dunno what hardcore would be for consoles other than going to fighting game or FPS tournaments.

 

[alidsl]

I like to as "you" something, what makes a dance game casual?

You didn't just start playing and know how to do stuff. I see people work at those games to get the top stars.

What makes any shooter hardcore? Once you learn to shoot and hide with some luck, you are set.


Better yet, list ten of each (hardcore and casual) type of games.

Hardcore:

• Call of Duty 1
• Call of Duty 2
• Call of Duty 3
• Call of Duty 4
• Call of Duty 6
• Call of Duty 7
• Halo 1
• Halo 2
• Halo 3
• Halo: Reach

Casual:

• Pokemon Red
• Pokemon Blue
• Pokemon Silver
• Pokemon Gold
• Pokemon etc
• Super Mario Bros.
• New Super Mario Bros.
• Super Mario Galaxy (1 and 2)
• Mario kart (all of them)
• Super smash Bros.

The list can go on

 

[KingVamp]

^ I lol'd

Didn't even notice there was so many CODs.

 

[alidsl]

^ I lol'd

Didn't even notice there was so many CODs.

I missed out COD 5 because it's shit, and I could have been naming pokemon games all day

 

[emigre]

In fairness SMG2 was incredibly easy.

 

[KingVamp]

Look at game stop. They actually have a casual section.

It is funny that there "casual" games on all systems and there is only a small
chunk.

Doesn't even contain all the games you think would be in that section.

*Keeps looking* Ghost Trick is consider casaul on that site...

 

[emigre]

Ghost Trick is casual. Glorified puzzle game just like Catherine.

 

[alidsl]

This is the world according to the veho/alidsl ideal

Casual: Someone who doesn't dedicate and put time into a game (e.g plays minigames and only finishes the story on pokemon)

Hardcore: Someone who dedicates themselves to a game (e.g Completes the sidequests aswell as the actual game (catchin em all))

1337: Someone who goes to the extreme (e.g modding console cases to make them look 1337, only playing the game in Jap, etc)

 

[Veho]

I would just like to add that I had nothing to do with the "1337" category. I agree with the other two. "Hardcore gamer" used to mean someone who invested time and effort into a game. A casual player was one that played for half an hour at a time, didn't feel like learning complex controls or mechanics, and gave up when the game became too hard. It usually didn't have anything to do with the game (although some games didn't lend themselves to extended gaming; people who play Solitaire can be called casual gamers ).

Today you can pick up a console and an M-rated game and hey presto, you're a "hardcore gamer". Bull. Pacman used to be a hardcore game, but a Pacman clone today would be considered a casual game. Tetris. Donkey Kong. Scorched Earth. It seems today that the difference between casual and hardcore gaming is the amount of bullshit you wrap the game in. Shooting cluster grenades at tanks is hardcore, but shooting birds at pigs is the epitome of casual gaming for some reason.

So a hardcore gamer is one that invests time and effort into completing a game, or in infinite-playing games (like Tetris) getting as far into it as possible. This would make hardcore games those that reward extended playing and increase in skills, either with new content, or increasing difficulty, achievements or timing your runs, i.e. stuff that makes playing for more than half an hour worthwhile. This means most "hardcore" games are still hardcore by that definition, but also means a lot of the so called "casual" games lend themselves to hardcore gameplay.

Meh, I got lost in my own ramblings. Anyway. "Hardcore" the way it's waved around now is just a buzzword flounted by kids desperate to look cool and mature, but not as mature as their boring old parents. Parents are, like, casuals.

 

[alidsl]

I would just like to add that I had nothing to do with the "1337" category.

What's wrong with the 1337 category, I just put it there to note the people who have absolutely NO LIFE

 

[Guild McCommunist]

Hadcore gamer: Me.

Casual gamer: KingVamp.

PROBLEM SOLVED.

EDIT: But in all seriousness...

Hardcore gamers are people who play a lot of games across a lot of different genres. Casual gamers don't.

 

[Forstride]

only playing the game in Jap

That doesn't make you "1337," that just makes you an impatient idiot.

On-topic: I classify gamers who play games of different genres and don't limit themselves to one gaming platform. People like PC elitists aren't hardcore gamers. They may be able to play, and emulate nearly every game on their computer (Granted it's a high-end PC), but true gamers play on the actual platform the game is meant for.

Casual gamers, to me, are people who just play a specific kind of game. For instance, people who only play first person shooters, or only play RPGs, etc. And of course, people who only play games like Angry Birds, Fruit Ninja, Farmville, etc.

 

[Guild McCommunist]

On-topic: I classify gamers who play games of different genres and don't limit themselves to one gaming platform. People like PC elitists aren't hardcore gamers. They may be able to play, and emulate nearly every game on their computer (Granted it's a high-end PC), but true gamers play on the actual platform the game is meant for.

But most games are meant to be played on the PC if they have a PC version available! Also, does this apply to multiplats, where they're made for one system and ported to the others? Am I not a hardcore gamer if I play Super Mario All-Stars and not the original Super Mario Bros. games?

EDIT: Also on that note...

What about Perfect Dark XBLA? I loved the N64 version but the XBLA version is better in every way.

What about Ocarina of Time 3D? I've never shown much love for it but it still has better graphics and THREEE DEEEE over the original. Hell, even Ocarina of Time on the VC. I can play it without having to dust off a N64 and blow into the cartridge and I don't have to bring out the third hand to use that terrible controller. I can instead mold my hands around the plastic glory of a Gamecube controller.

I'm not even part of the PC master race but I do consider probably the best platform for gaming. They keyboard/mouse allows unique games to be played on it, you can always use a gamepad if you want, and it probably has the best exclusives. Oh, and I can look up porn on it too. That's always a huge plus.

Steam deals help too. And the fact that you'll only be paying for multiplayer games since you can just pirate any single player game on the system with relative ease.

EDIT: But this is more of a PC vs. consoles argument and not a hardcore/casual argument, so sorry for digressing.

 

[emigre]

If we're talking about porn, is it hardcore or software? Because as a hardcore mature gamer who only plays hardcore mature games, I only watch hardcore barely legal porn.

 

[kingsucksalot]

what ever happened to just playing games now people went out and made types of gaming and what not,
hardcore casual how about just somebody who plays games ?

 

[KingVamp]

Hadcore gamer: Me.

Casual gamer: KingVamp.

PROBLEM SOLVED.

I truly lol'd.

For the record, I never classify myself as a casual gamer nor hardcore gamer.

...Just a gamer.

inb4someoneaskwhat'sagamer.

 

[prowler]

what's a gamer

 

[_Chaz_]

what's a gamer

A miserable, little pile of secrets.

 

[alidsl]

Hadcore gamer: Me.

Casual gamer: KingVamp.

PROBLEM SOLVED.

This is Guild:

But that means (according to guild) I'm hardcore

 

[Frederica Bernkastel]

only playing the game in Jap

That doesn't make you "1337," that just makes you an impatient idiot.

What if the game is exclusive to Japan? Am I an impatient idiot for playing Boktai 3, which is never going to be localized (due to poor sales in the west)?

On-topic: I classify gamers who play games of different genres and don't limit themselves to one gaming platform. People like PC elitists aren't hardcore gamers. They may be able to play, and emulate nearly every game on their computer (Granted it's a high-end PC), but true gamers play on the actual platform the game is meant for.

By PC Elitists, do you mean those who prefer PC gaming due to all it's perks? And are you implying that consoles such as the Microsoft Xbox, Sony Playstion 3, or Nintendo Wii don't have emulators? What about re-releases and remakes -- are you a casual gamer for playing Ocarina of Time 3D?

Casual gamers, to me, are people who just play a specific kind of game. For instance, people who only play first person shooters, or only play RPGs, etc. And of course, people who only play games like Angry Birds, Fruit Ninja, Farmville, etc.

So lemme get this straight, a casual gamer is anyone who plays a single type of game, or on a single platform? ....Or people who play popular simplistic games? Am I a casual gamer for playing Quake Live in a web-browser, for playing Chaos Rings on an iPod Touch, or for playing Angry Birds on an Android Phone?

Sure, I'm pulling a strawman here, (and this is just an example of one of these silly self-righteous self-justifying posts that try to define what the casual/hardcore split is), but my point is: People are too specific with these kinds of things; it's a form of prejudice, only the difference is that instead of discrimination being based on your skin colour, religion or even gender, it's based on what types of games you play and what you play them on. In the above post, I've deliberately picked examples of different types of games on different platforms to show how ridiculous this attempt at categorizing gamers is. Don't get me wrong, I'm not denying there's a difference between people who play lots of popular mainstream titles, people who play lots of indie/unheard-of games, and people who play the occasional game of Spider Solitaire or Farmville; just trying to branch all of that into Hardcore/Casual is just silly. A game's a game, if you play games you are a gamer. End of.