Education/school/learning… whatever

There are times when I despair of humanity. I really don’t want to discuss the current one-and-only public topic. Opinions other than mainstream may not be expressed – if you don’t want to get tared and feathered. The problem is that this topic interferes with absolutely everything and is the reason why I even can write this blog article. What I do want to write about is my personal opinion about education/school in Germany. This is easy and surprisingly short compared to my normal way of writing:

School and children’s education in Germany is a laughingstock!

But that sentence in a big font is totally not like Sinchen. I have to elaborate.

What had been more or less a mildly educated guess in the past… I can now say this with quite some sureness. “Thanks” to the one-and-only public topic I now have some insight into an elementary school.
  • I’ve seen schoolbooks containing ALL answers and solutions – like one would maybe expect in a teacher’s edition (but what for should a teacher need the answers anyway?).
  • I’ve seen the “work” method of the young women that are supposed to be teachers. I got my previous knowledge about/of them by only watching their behavior at the bus stop – which brought me more than a few “mega facepalm” moments.
  • Some years ago I’ve seen how incapable students at university were pulled trough instead of being stopped. A professor asked me to have a look at some written tests in mathematics. He was almost stunned when he showed it to me. He should make as many students pass the test as possible. Anybody who did not pass on the first try could repeat the test some weeks later. To get good results professor repeated the exact same exercises (with different numbers). ¾ of the students failed on the second attempt. He almost had tears in his eyes as he said to me: “I cannot possibly allow such people to become teachers.” I read the test. It was MUCH easier than what I had to do in written “Abiturprüfung” (final school exam in Germany).
Now to the one-and-only topic:
Other countries in lock down: Online school from day 1.
Germany: Nothing → Debating → Nothing → "Maybe we can open schools someday again?"
A friend and myself, we offered the local elementary school to build an isolated system for streaming lessons. Reactions:
  • At first: Nothing
  • Then: Pointing to possible privacy issues (We would have had full control over the server and our privacy policy fits into one line: “We don’t share any data. We don’t keep any data.”)
    • Privacy… yes of course! Then the teacher said: “The children shall prepare a short presentation”. And she asked the parents to film this and upload the result to Dropbox.
    • “If you or the children have questions, contact me on Skype.”
  • Preparing a digital classroom. Sounds good, doesn’t it? Well… the digital classroom is a f…ing collection of internet links! The mails she sent the weeks before did the same. Now we have a site using cookies and certify.alexametrics.com – this is much better!
These girls *ahem* teachers are responsible for educating the youngest and weakest elements of our society. I always felt bad when I had seen them at the bus stop after school – standing together in a group giggling, talking nonsense not paying attention to children as young as six years who were jumping around like mad. There is quite some traffic there. Idiots speeding along the school area as well as mothers driving their tanks SUVs almost into the school building to pick up their offspring(s). Not a reason for the teachers to care for the children and tell them not to jump onto the street!

At least they made some pretty good videos about long division (is this the correct term for the detailed method of writing down a mildly complex division exercise?) and they have a nice handwriting. Sadly they have no idea how to prepare a video before sharing. Oh my… Normalize the audio and don’t force me to crank up volume to an insanely high value in order to understand a word!

I have some more information about other (secondary) schools, even the one I had to visit as a teenager – which was excellent in terms of the teachers' abilities – and is now a place of stupidity.

I'm feeling so desperate. I'm feeling so ashamed. There is no way to ever repair that. But hey: The grades in Abitur keep getting better and better each year.
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*Cannothingsayagainstthis*

Other countries in lock down: Online school from day 1.

Austria is similar to Germany,Sinchen..
Which I personally find much worse:

"They" :shit:ing (excuse me,it is my Opinion) around for the School and "try" to find a "Solution......still..

But they still have NO IDEA what they do with the Kindergarten Kids !!

What sense makes it to get Solutions for the "bigger" Kids" when the next Generation behind is actually "degenerating" ("they" STILL have NO Solution for them,only like "if someone needs care for their Child(s) then open a Group...."

And of course,due the :shit: Virus there is no need for "some" People because no "Care Demand" so,please go home and see for yourself how you "survive the next 4 Months,until September,then maybe we can "need" you again...maybe..."

I am really pissed on this constantly "Yes,the Virus is to blame for....everthing.BULLSHIT.They had over 4 Months Time to do something but Austria is a cool Country: "We have everthing under Control....
*pure austrian/german sarcasm*

Ein kurzer Überblick über mein Heimatland:

- "Gewählte Verantwortliche"/Medienvertreter haben Anfang Jänner "blöd" und "abfällig" über China gelacht und diese veralbert.
- Bericht im Jänner im ORF " Kann bei uns nicht passieren,wir haben alles im Griff."
- Verantwortungslose ÄRZTE bei Konferenz in Tirol hauptverantwortlich für die rasante Verbreitung...
- Immer noch keine Reaktion der "Gewählten Verantwortlichen"
- "Massensterben in Italien - Gründe laut Medienvertretern und "Gewählten Verantwortlichen" unbekannt.
- Immer noch "alles im Griff" laut....eh schon wissen...Medienvertretern und "Gewählten Verantwortlichen".
- Schweden fragt nach was für "Seuchenvögel" wir da geschickt hätten (Ärzte vom Kongress).
- Langsam dämmert es......
- Italien am Rande der Ausrottung.Gründe immer noch unbekannt laut Medienvertretern und "Gewählten Verantwortlichen".
- Mittlerweile alle Länder rund um Österreich infiziert.
- Angrenzende Länder reagieren mit Grenzsperren/Ein/Ausreiseverbot...Österreich "Wir haben alles im Griff...."

- ÖHA -> Österreichischer Ausdruck für "Hoppala..."

- SOFORTIGE Sperren der Grenzen/Ein/Ausreiseverbote/Städte/Dörfer/Regionen werden unter Quarantäne gestellt.
- ERSTE Tests in Österreich....
- Schutzkleidung/Mund Masken werden an die Bevölk.....sofern "nicht" vorhanden....
- viele Leute sind dumm und unvernünftig,feiern Ihre Geburtstag im grossen Kreis inklusive "Gewählte Verantwortlichen"
- Keine "gewählter Verantwortlicher" hat die Courage zu sagen:"Wir haben zu spät reagiert...."
- ERSTE eingeschränkte Bewegungsverordnung.
- Kindergärten bleiben OFFEN / Schulen geschlossen (Ausnahme ein "Bibliothekar" zur Lehrstoffausgabe)
- NICHT WICHTIGE Geschäfte müssen schliessen.
- Die "Hamster" kaufen das erste Mal fürs erste "eingeschränkte" Wochenende ein - Klopapier und Mehl
- "Wir müssen nun alle Opfer bringen und zusammenhalten" melden Medienvertreter und "Gewählte Verantwortliche".
- Weitere wichtige Institutionen schliessen : Ämter (??)
- Behandelnde Ärzte infizieren sich ebenfalls.Grund: "wahrscheinlich" unzureichende Schutzkleidung...
- Die "angeordneten" Standard Masken sind sinnlos,sie nützen überhaupt nichts.Egal....
- Zum "Einkaufen/Besorgungen machen" sollen öffentliche Verkehrsmittel benützt werden (Klimaschutz ??)
- Todesanzahl steigt unaufhörlich weiter.Grund ? Wahrscheinlich unzureichende Schutzkl....
- AUSGANGSPERREN werden auferlegt und durch Polizei (woher Leute nehmen ???) strengstens kontrolliert.
- Parks und Gärten werden geschlossen - Mindesabstand 1 Meter und mindestens 30 Sekunden Hände waschen.
- "greifende" und sinnvolle Massnahmen 3 Monate zu spät
- (Alleinstehende) Ältere Menschen sind mit Erfolg panisch und verängstigt und haben keine Ahnung was Sie tun sollen.
- Bildungssystem bricht zusammen,hat vorher schon nicht mehr funktioniert und ist jetzt (endlich ?) am Ende
- 560.000 (Tendenz rapide und massiv steigend) Arbeitslose in nur knapp 2 Wochen - Vorkriegszustände.
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- Raum für weitere Ergänzungen
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- Weihnachten 2020 werden gaaaanz viele Leute das ERSTE Mal in Ihrem 'Leben zu schätzen wissen und den wahren Sinn von Weihnachten vielleicht verstehen....:-)

Sorry,I think many is lost on Translation from Google:

A brief overview of my home country:

- "Elected responsible persons" / media representatives laughed "stupidly" and "derogantly" at China at the beginning of January and fooled them.
- Report in January on ORF "Can't happen with us, we have everything under control."
- Irresponsible DOCTORS at conference in Tyrol mainly responsible for the rapid spread ...
- Still no reaction from the "elected responsible persons"
- "Mass deaths in Italy - reasons unknown to media representatives and" elected officials ".
- Still "everything under control" according to .... know anyway ... media representatives and "elected responsible persons".
- Sweden asks what "plague birds" we would have sent there (doctors from Congress).
- It's slowly dawning ......
- Italy on the brink of extinction. Reasons still unknown, according to media representatives and "elected officials".
- Meanwhile all countries around Austria are infected.
- Bordering countries react with border closures / entry / exit ban ... Austria "We have everything under control ...."

- ÖHA -> Austrian expression for "Hoppala ..."

- IMMEDIATE blocking of borders / entry / exit bans / cities / villages / regions are placed in quarantine.
- FIRST tests in Austria ....
- Protective clothing / mouth masks are given to the people ..... if "not" available ....
- many people are stupid and unreasonable, celebrate their birthday in a big circle including "elected responsible persons"
- No "elected responsible person" has the courage to say: "We reacted too late ..."
- FIRST restricted movement regulation.
- Kindergartens remain OPEN / schools closed (exception: a "librarian" for teaching material)
- NON-IMPORTANT business must close.
- The "hamsters" buy for the first time for the first "restricted" weekend - toilet paper and flour
- "We must now make all sacrifices and stick together," reports media representatives and "elected officials".
- Close other important institutions: Offices (??)
- Treating doctors also become infected. Reason: "probably" insufficient protective clothing ...
- The "arranged" standard masks are pointless, they are of no use at all.
- Public transport should be used for "shopping / running errands" (climate protection ??)
- The number of deaths continues to rise. Probably insufficient protection class ....
- EXIT BARRIERS are imposed and strictly controlled by the police (where do people come from ???).
- Parks and gardens are closed - minimum distance 1 meter and wash hands for at least 30 seconds.
- "effective" and sensible measures 3 months too late
- (Single) older people are panicked and scared with success and have no idea what to do.
- Education system collapses, has not worked before and is now (finally?) At the end
- 560,000 (trend rapidly and massively increasing) unemployed in just under 2 weeks - pre-war conditions.
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- Room for further additions
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- Christmas 2020, a lot of people will appreciate the FIRST time in their life and maybe understand the real meaning of Christmas .... :-)

And as @KleinesSinchen absolutely correct says,this "Girls" becomes Teachers/Pedagogue (Pädagoginnen).
I have seen such "Pedagogue LIVE on Stage" and I can tell you: You will not know what is going on there and what happens to little Kids there.....

Yes,I am also very pissed on this Topic......

Thank you.
 
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"I’ve seen schoolbooks containing ALL answers and solutions – like one would maybe expect in a teacher’s edition (but what for should a teacher need the answers anyway?)."
Is this not normal around you?
I think most books had such things here for about as long as I can remember. They would occasionally spread a rumour that the answers there were sometimes wrong (I did once hear of some having a certain pattern, or say 5 answers to 4 questions in the book to catch out the copy them down set) and only theirs (which if you were paying attention came out of the same pile).

It is also why you are told show your working.

As for why teachers need the answers. The teacher theoretically has nothing to prove so not much is gained by them potentially spending a minute or two deriving the answers. It is no different to them having books in the first place rather than creating the exercises themselves.
 
@alexander1970
Thanks for the comment and the information/opinion about Austria.

To clarify: I did not want to discuss anything directly related to the virus. The virus just gave me the "opportunity" to get a better insight into the school system. The virus made the problems and deficits in policy of education in Germany more visible. Those problems existed before, but now I can see them with my own eyes, directly, undisguised.

As an insider when it comes to child care you have (and have had before the one-and-only public topic) firsthand information. We discussed this in PM and some of this was shocking!

@FAST6191 "Spending a minute or two deriving the answers." You are very optimistic. I have no doubt this is true for YOU. You could pretty much do this with everything in the schoolbooks (and honestly this should be true for any adult reading through a book of the 4th grade)
But in reality… those girls… nope! Not a chance.
As for having books instead of creating exercises: Why not both? Some of my teachers were pretty hard-working in that direction. And the schoolbooks don't only contain exercises. There can be explanations, maps, figures.
 
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80% of it is rote memorization.
"Learning" outdated stuff for the sake of it.

Had a very annoyed teacher once, as pupils merly memorized, instead of actually *grasping* the topic at hand.

Sad state of affairs indeed.

Also this (german):
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PxsOnBqy2Cc&list=PLK4C8g4vpj7UGdqVTnLDHtdQsC3nzs-vL&index=1
 
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