APPLE I HATE YOU

[quote name='Salamantis' post='1407773' date='Sep 18 2008, 02:50 PM'][quote name='Musturd' post='1407768' date='Sep 18 2008, 05:46 PM']Other than getting a mac for small kids, or for Final Cut Pro, why would anyone smart get it?
If you don't want windows, than get linux

I just want a good reason.
Ease of use, to me anyway, does not justify as a good reason, so don't pull that one.[/quote]
http://www.apple.com/getamac/whymac/

Other reasons too, won't name cause I won't start a flame war.
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Summary of that page:

It's shiny, it's generic
It uses C2D (like everything else)
Updates (like everything else)
Camera so you can spam youtube
Wireless... k
Safe for retarded kids and blind grannies
It's simple becuz of bar at bottom!
All the software you need to make you feel hip (and then some! )
It's fun to shell out $3000 for this!!
Our employees look retarded and try to look cool but aren't!
Our genius (a wannabe college drop out clickng in a file moving utility) moves ur porn to your new computer!
We'll help you learn... but were simple... but you still need to learn--the simplicity of the easiness...

[quote name='DrKupo' post='1407467' date='Sep 18 2008, 02:14 PM'][quote name='IBNobody' post='1407452' date='Sep 18 2008, 03:03 PM'][quote name='DrKupo' post='1407269' date='Sep 18 2008, 10:52 AM']Wrong. The base model has two. Two 2.8GHz Quad-Core Intel Xeon “Harpertown” processors. You lose! You also have to buy a case, cables, hd, etc to compete. You just built part of a PC.

In addition to that, you can't pirate the OS. You are trying to BEAT the Mac Pro here, and when I buy a Mac Pro I don't have to steal the OS.[/quote]

Well, that reply was disappointing. I was hoping for something longer. I did all the footwork, and all I get is "you're wrong", without any intelligent discussion on your part?

In that case...

I'm content to being a loser with an extra $2320 in my pocket.
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No, seriously, YOU ARE FACTUALLY INCORRECT. The base mac pro ships with 2 quad core processors. You are wrong! look at the mac pro site, understand that you are wrong, and admit defeat.
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If I am factually incorrect, why does Apple let you order a Power Mac with only one Xeon? Is that not a base system? If not, what would you call it? Wouldn't the second Xeon be extra? I'd call that price gouging. Wouldn't you be better off buying the second Xeon on your own, either immediately, or a few months down the road?

For that matter, wouldn't you be better off just buying the parts separately, buying the OS and other software, and building the system yourself?

EDIT: On second thought... Don't answer that. I don't seem to care anymore.

hehe look what I found:

[quote name='Musturd' post='1408115' date='Sep 18 2008, 09:26 PM']hehe look what I found:
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That's a very big exaggeration, and while I agree that App Store apps get rejected often, it's for the good, since if people make random apps for no reason the quality goes downhill.

[quote name='phoood' post='1407868' date='Sep 18 2008, 05:43 PM']anti-apple diehards boggle my mind more than anything in the world.
maybe it's because they're really poor.

really really poor.[/quote]

Here's a good explanation...

Fight club, after Edward Norton beats the crap out of Angel...
Tyler Durden: Where'd you go psycho boy?
Narrator: I felt like destroying something beautiful.

[quote name='Salamantis' post='1408116' date='Sep 18 2008, 06:27 PM'][quote name='Musturd' post='1408115' date='Sep 18 2008, 09:26 PM']hehe look what I found:
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That's a very big exaggeration, and while I agree that App Store apps get rejected often, it's for the good, since if people make random apps for no reason the quality goes downhill.
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lol. that chart rocks!!!!!!!

[quote name='phoood' post='1407868' date='Sep 18 2008, 06:43 PM']anti-apple diehards boggle my mind more than anything in the world.
maybe it's because they're really poor.

really really poor.[/quote]
Maybe people would rather spend their money on more important things...


Like having sushi every other day

[quote name='IBNobody' post='1408104' date='Sep 18 2008, 09:19 PM'][quote name='DrKupo' post='1407467' date='Sep 18 2008, 02:14 PM'][quote name='IBNobody' post='1407452' date='Sep 18 2008, 03:03 PM'][quote name='DrKupo' post='1407269' date='Sep 18 2008, 10:52 AM']Wrong. The base model has two. Two 2.8GHz Quad-Core Intel Xeon “Harpertown” processors. You lose! You also have to buy a case, cables, hd, etc to compete. You just built part of a PC.

In addition to that, you can't pirate the OS. You are trying to BEAT the Mac Pro here, and when I buy a Mac Pro I don't have to steal the OS.[/quote]

Well, that reply was disappointing. I was hoping for something longer. I did all the footwork, and all I get is "you're wrong", without any intelligent discussion on your part?

In that case...

I'm content to being a loser with an extra $2320 in my pocket.
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No, seriously, YOU ARE FACTUALLY INCORRECT. The base mac pro ships with 2 quad core processors. You are wrong! look at the mac pro site, understand that you are wrong, and admit defeat.
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If I am factually incorrect, why does Apple let you order a Power Mac with only one Xeon? Is that not a base system? If not, what would you call it? Wouldn't the second Xeon be extra? I'd call that price gouging. Wouldn't you be better off buying the second Xeon on your own, either immediately, or a few months down the road?

For that matter, wouldn't you be better off just buying the parts separately, buying the OS and other software, and building the system yourself?

EDIT: On second thought... Don't answer that. I don't seem to care anymore.
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The base specification is the one listed on the page, not the absolute lowest you can go. Also, you still lose. You didn't include a hard drive, let alone a case.

Also, they are called Mac Pros.

True:


AND, not me but true:

When you run iDVD application the first error message you get is ‘Your Macintosh does not have a supported SuperDrive. Please note that while you will be able to work with the iDVD application you cannot Burn a DVD disc’ Guess what when you buy a Macbook you would expect the preinstalled softwares to be compatible with the available hardware and if you dont have a specific hardware why would you expect a software which cannot be used?

Click to expand...

one thing that always gets on my nerves (before i say it i do love mac osx) Windows has its fucking roots in mac os, when microsoft made office for mac they had full access to the OS source code and a dodgy agreement meaning microsoft could have released it as the next version of windows without any modifications what-so ever, its no coincidence that elements from spotlight and finder are more aparent in Vista then any other os apart from mac itself, indexed searching (vista new feature) guess what i have had that on my mac for years.... who Really is the OS that tries to show new things that the other has been doing for years, in the case of vista vs. mac osx its mac os thats been doing it for much longer then vista.

Nuff said

[quote name='littlestevie' post='1408283' date='Sep 18 2008, 10:54 PM']one thing that always gets on my nerves (before i say it i do love mac osx) Windows has its fucking roots in mac os, when microsoft made office for mac they had full access to the OS source code and a dodgy agreement meaning microsoft could have released it as the next version of windows without any modifications what-so ever, its no coincidence that elements from spotlight and finder are more aparent in Vista then any other os apart from mac itself, indexed searching (vista new feature) guess what i have had that on my mac for years.... who Really is the OS that tries to show new things that the other has been doing for years, in the case of vista vs. mac osx its mac os thats been doing it for much longer then vista.

Nuff said[/quote]
That's funny that you mention that spotlight point. You know "time machine" or whatever apple calls it, has been on Windows since ME in 2000. Guess how long it took apple to implement -- longer (too lazy to actually calculate). I'm a fan of the cached search, but really it's not a big a deal as system restore. At least in my opinion.

[quote name='Musturd' post='1408293' date='Sep 19 2008, 12:58 PM'][quote name='littlestevie' post='1408283' date='Sep 18 2008, 10:54 PM']one thing that always gets on my nerves (before i say it i do love mac osx) Windows has its fucking roots in mac os, when microsoft made office for mac they had full access to the OS source code and a dodgy agreement meaning microsoft could have released it as the next version of windows without any modifications what-so ever, its no coincidence that elements from spotlight and finder are more aparent in Vista then any other os apart from mac itself, indexed searching (vista new feature) guess what i have had that on my mac for years.... who Really is the OS that tries to show new things that the other has been doing for years, in the case of vista vs. mac osx its mac os thats been doing it for much longer then vista.

Nuff said[/quote]
That's funny that you mention that spotlight point. You know "time machine" or whatever apple calls it, has been on Windows since ME in 2000. Guess how long it took apple to implement -- longer (too lazy to actually calculate). I'm a fan of the cached search, but really it's not a big a deal as system restore. At least in my opinion.

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having said that to make a complete disk image of your install directory requires 3rd party software on a pc, where its built into diskutil the HDD manager.

i will take that fair call with "time machine" but didnt ME only do local copies? this has the option to backup over the internet to remote storage

EDIT: this isnt ment to sound like a flame, i use BOTH windows and mac for different tasks i dont prefer mac over windows but i dont prefer windows over mac either, they are equal for 2 different hardwares and different purpose, for instance my company devs iphone apps - need OSX this is a financial requirement otherwise we dont make money on that market, other things tho, like audio editing, garage band does a better job then cubase SX, its things like that each os has its strengths and weaknesses

OK
You have a justified reason for running a Mac OS, congrats.

Most people don't.
I no longer need to flame war you. <-- I just invented a verb "to flame war"

As for audio, I like garage band if I feel the need to fool around, but audacity beats it in editing :yayds: (which is cross-platform anyway, so whatever)

Musturd, you're an idiot.
Sorry.

[quote name='Gore' post='1408426' date='Sep 18 2008, 11:57 PM']Musturd, you're an idiot.
Sorry.[/quote]
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I need reasons

With all the "justifying" using Mac OSX, and putting your (dumb) rant in your sig as if it meant anything.
More reasons could be found if I cared more.

[quote name='Gore' post='1408440' date='Sep 19 2008, 12:01 AM']With all the "justifying" using Mac OSX, and putting your (dumb) rant in your sig as if it meant anything.
More reasons could be found if I cared more.[/quote]

My sig was too empty, but other than that; Touche

I've had that happen before too, at radioshack they were supposed to call me, however they ended up calling a wrong number so I never got the message my ipod was in

[quote name='Gore' post='1408426' date='Sep 18 2008, 08:57 PM']Musturd, you're an idiot.
Sorry.[/quote]
Second.

How about less insults? Thanks.

Why are you all getting so anal over stinkin' computers, anyway?
That, I will never know...

Anyway, more discussion without flames and rudeness please.