Well I'll just File that complaint Right here

I'd like to bring to attention the wildly un-even and poorly managed repsonsibilties of a particular GBATEMP Mod in the IRC channel. And as I have been civil throughout the situation I will leave that Mods name unmentioned, and if it is needed message me.

The reason I was told I was banned, or threatened to be banned before being banned was "Disagreeing with Staff" Which really I wasn't disagreeing with but asking about a situation that I may have potentially wanted to disagree with but did not have enough facts. It was about a former temper, whose shennanigans I quite enjoyed, and that person was banned and I was simply asking what happened.

After asking I was told to stop asking or my attendace in the channel would be an issue. Seriously? I wish everytime someone asked me a question I didn't really want to answer I could ban them, I ultimately was banned I assume because I stated it reminded me of a govenrnment which rhymed with the word Mazi, no vulgarities no nothing just a simple statement and I have heard farrrrrrr worse said in that channel. Simply drawing attention to the fact that the nazis indeed did the same thing, say something they didn't like or ask the wrong question and you could "no longer be here"

However I guess that the channel is a microcosm of the order structure in the US especially right now, where more and more rights, like freedom of speech are being restricted and privacies invaded all in the name of a safer country. I must have been removed for the betterment of everyone in the channel, yet no one to my knowledge had complained about my question.

I was not using any sort of foul language, however we were talking about some topics in which I had negative opinions, GH, Rock Band, some other thing I can't remember, all havng valid points and not just being some random hater. Maybe my ban should have been for "Upsetting the masses with negative opinions that differ from the mainstream"

Then again, I might as well have been banned for "I don't like the look of your face" so to speak.

A week for asking a question, politely. I wonder what happens when I out right disagree with a MOD?

I assume this post will be deleted, and hey maybe I'll be banned from the forums. Mods are always right. And we can't be having anyone bad talking a moderator of any kind, that brings problems, other people might have issues with other mods, and god forbid some people might realize not all moderators are good people, and maybe just maybe people will stop kissing the rear ends of those in any position of power, from mods online to cops to the upper class. By treating them like they are better people than everyone else, and by wanting to be friends/kissing up to and agreeing with everything they say, you further subvert yourself to people who are not always worthy to lead, or manage. Like I said this part has slightly turned into a rant about speaking out against unjust authority in general, but can be brought down to the level of simple moderator/user interactions.

But hey, who can expect change when differing opinions aren't allowed, or when we cannot ask questions.

Well thanks for reading, and I'll see you all again in 1984. Or maybe you won't, big brother is always watching, always editing and deleting.

And for the mod in question. I hope this kind of stuff makes you feel good. I hope that you get your kicks from banning people who don't do what you want them to, who go against what you say, I hope that I made your day that day. True responsibilty and power come not with the ability to weild them but the knowing of when to and when to not use them. Abuse of responsibilty is a sad sad thing, and truly shows the character of those who do abuse it.

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Not sure what happened so I cannot really agree or disagree but if what you are saying is true then the mod in question isn't being fair.

You shouldn't discuss these sorts of things outside of IRC tho...why not make a blog entry instead?
 
Actually, it's against the rules to discuss IRC matter here in GBAtemp! :P

I'm guessing you asked about BoneMonkey or Dr. kupo....the thing is, people here almost started "riot" over his (BoneMonkeys) ban that he deserved on himself! Staff here, are kinda sensitive on BoneMonkey/Dr. Kupo related questions, because we/they became sick of it and don't want to discuss about it anymore..
If I'm wrong about member that got banned, ignore my post....
 
[quote name='JKR Firefox' post='1504827' date='Oct 29 2008, 09:45 PM']Not sure what happened so I cannot really agree or disagree but if what you are saying is true then the mod in question isn't being fair.

You shouldn't discuss these sorts of things outside of IRC tho...why not make a blog entry instead?[/quote]

Yes a blog entry would have been more appropriate.

To the OP .. heard of Godwin's law?

*EDIT*

@TONI

I never really knew those members that well.. but I cant imagine caring that much :P The little I knew of the guy was just him being annoying.
 
Thats the thing, I was asking because I hadn't been here in a while and was wondering what happened, I didn't even want to disagree so much, if they got banned they got banned it happens. I posted here, because well, I haven't been able to get a hold of the Mod , I have been polite, mostly just asking when the ban was done, but they are usually away. However the more time spent in ban mode, the more irratating it has become, especially if its seems like you were banned for an unjustified length, or at all.

The whole deal could have been avoided with a simple general answer, like so and so was banned from the forums for insert reaso, or banned from IRC for being overly crude and swearing to much or whatever.

PS Blog posts speak volumes.

"Just because some people do not is not any reason to debate. Again, the issue here is simple: Follow the rules or see yourself out. Don't like it? Don't come in. You can always go back to EFNet. For some of you, that's what we prefer you do forever. "

I like the appreciation shown towards the members. Prefering people not come to the site/channel is kind of reverse of want you generally want. You want people to visit here, sure some are jerks and get banned, but "For some of you, that's what we prefer you do forever. " seems aimed at existng members.....nice.

I hope your bans and suspensions aren't personal. Because personal can start to make petty offences look like they could be punishable for a week, and no offence, "For some of you, that's what we prefer you do forever. " reeks of personal.
 
Well this is rediculous, after being told by another IRC mod that my ban was for 1 week, I returned after a week and a half, just to be rebanned because I was never told directly.

I am on the brink of a perma ban for something this small and petty and its rediculous.

This mod who banned me makes it more and more clear that he is a petty bully who gets his rocks by banning people he doesn't like. Cause now this just smacks of personal, and once a mod starts using bans for personal ends he is abusing the mod powers.

So I am glad the temp staffs a mod who is willing to ban a person permanently for a minor infraction, an infraction that could be argued was not an infaction at all.

In the year I have been posting here, and the good six months where i was a regular in IRC I never once had a problem with any of the mods, and was booted once and banned for 15 minutes because my foul language got a bit excessive one time, most other times I would get warned and that would be the end of it because if I was being warned due to me being a jerk more than likely. But this time I was banned, and I disregarded a warning about disagreeing with mods, because quite frankly as I beleive in free speech, I feel I should be able to disagree with mods decisions or atleast ask about them......that doesn't seem like something that too far out of line.

No other issues. Now I am close to being perma banned for this? Something so small, so stupid, so petty. If this is how this person moderates this channel he shouldn't be moderating at all, but I was informed by him that my "Opinions were irrelevant"

I'd like to point out, that through all of this I have been nothing but polite and respectful. I haven't even used foul language and I curse like a sailor. The reason being, I know I am in the right and he was just being a jerk and abusing his power, and all I need to do is cuss at him to get perma banned I am sure.

I'd eventually like to here from someone regarding this, because this is rediculous, I am not able to use the IRC channel for asking some questions, not swearing not spamming. NOT BREAKING ANY OF THE LISTED RULES. Unless "Disagreeing with a mod" is an actual rule, cause if it is then my nazi comment was well founded. Note I didn't even call him a nazi, just stated that if tempers cannot have their own opinions then it is indeed truely like nazi germany.

Not once has he been able to justify nor tell me why I was banned in the first place. Just that I am not allowed to disagree with mods, if tempers opinions don't matter than I am sadly disappointed in the staff of a website I once loved visiting.

Just to wrap up this mods general attitude towards regular members, in a blog post he stated that for some of the members he wished the would leave and never come back, he believes that tempers disagreeing with a mod is wrong, and that members opinions do not matter. That seems pretty backwards in regards to how a staff generally runs a site.

The day I go to work and act this way towards my reps would be the day I no longer had a job. And as one manager to another "manager", sir you have an awful attitude, you abuse the powers of authority that have been given to you and you are doing a shitty job in general.

If I get perma banned from the Channel for asking questions politely I will really be disappointed in this site. For a website who is powered by the community, it would be a shame to find out they were okay with a mod banning members of that community for stupid reasons.

This guy seems to be ban happy, see his post in the trade forums. I didn't know mods and staff were allowed to call people jack asses. He prays that a user sees a suspension soon and is permanently banned from the trading forums. Someone says something this guy doesn't agree with and ban is the first response.
 

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