4/04/09 R.I.P 360

[quote name='raulpica' post='1876296' date='Apr 4 2009, 05:37 PM'][quote name='Prime' post='1875797' date='Apr 4 2009, 03:06 PM'][quote name='raulpica' post='1875687' date='Apr 4 2009, 01:00 PM'][quote name='Prime' post='1875567' date='Apr 4 2009, 01:09 PM'][quote name='raulpica' post='1875550' date='Apr 4 2009, 12:01 PM']Wait a bit... 2 Red Lights?

Something isn't quite right. It should be either one or three.

Have you tried to get the secondary error code?[/quote]

No, it is overheating problems.

My plan of action is to send it to argos because I bought a warrenty from the argos along with my 360. Then use the License transfer when I get my new 360.

Really sucks
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Overheating is NOT technically RROD. "RROD" is when a physical damage happens to the motherboard. If it only overheats, then everything is probably still in place.

Lemme understand... You can play fine for a while and then it does 2 Red Lights?

BTW, if you're sending it to Argos, I hope everything goes fine for you, otherwise remember that you can always PM me for repair advices
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No i cant play fine, I turn it on and it automically goes to two red rings.

Argos wouldn't take it back i think, they said contact microshit. So I'm making a repair form thing
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Oh man. Never seen something like that. Do the fans start spinning like uber-fast crazy as soon as you start it?
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Come to think of it my friend had the same thing, he got 3RROD for like two minutes. Switched it off, turned it back on and instant 2RROD followed by mad fan speeds. He sorted it by doing the standard 3RROD bolts/ thermal paste fix.

Isn't MS supposed to cover RRODs for 3 years?

Wow, only 1 year... I guess these next-gen consoles have really low life expectancy. Both my Gamecube and PS2 are alive after 5 years.

[quote name='Pizzaroo' post='1878362' date='Apr 4 2009, 11:56 PM']Wow, only 1 year... I guess these next-gen consoles have really low life expectancy. Both my Gamecube and PS2 are alive after 5 years.[/quote]
It's just the 360.

[quote name='War' post='1876387' date='Apr 4 2009, 07:20 PM']Isn't MS supposed to cover RRODs for 3 years?[/quote]

3 RRODs not 1 or 2.

[quote name='raulpica' post='1876296' date='Apr 4 2009, 06:37 PM']Oh man. Never seen something like that. Do the fans start spinning like uber-fast crazy as soon as you start it?[/quote]

Yeah

[quote name='Prime' post='1879533' date='Apr 5 2009, 07:49 PM'][quote name='raulpica' post='1876296' date='Apr 4 2009, 06:37 PM']Oh man. Never seen something like that. Do the fans start spinning like uber-fast crazy as soon as you start it?[/quote]

Yeah
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Whoa, you could actually be in luck. It should be a really easy repair. You'd just have to do the X-Clamp fix on the CPU.

Here's what happened in your 360.
The motherboard flexed to the point that the thermal sensor under the CPU "says" that the 360 is overheating. This is not the case.
The Thermal Sensor is also sensible to pressure, not only temperature. If it's not pressed enough on the CPU, or if it's pressed too much against the CPU, it'll just simulate overheating.

Why has Microsoft put a Thermal Sensor sensible to pression under the CPU...? Maybe they put it as a warning if there was something wrong with the X-Clamps? Dunno.

Just changing the Thermal Paste and doing a good and equal tightening should suffice.

[quote name='raulpica' post='1879547' date='Apr 5 2009, 06:57 PM'][quote name='Prime' post='1879533' date='Apr 5 2009, 07:49 PM'][quote name='raulpica' post='1876296' date='Apr 4 2009, 06:37 PM']Oh man. Never seen something like that. Do the fans start spinning like uber-fast crazy as soon as you start it?[/quote]

Yeah
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Whoa, you could actually be in luck. It should be a really easy repair. You'd just have to do the X-Clamp fix on the CPU.

Here's what happened in your 360.
The motherboard flexed to the point that the thermal sensor under the CPU "says" that the 360 is overheating. This is not the case.
The Thermal Sensor is also sensible to pressure, not only temperature. If it's not pressed enough on the CPU, or if it's pressed too much against the CPU, it'll just simulate overheating.

Why has Microsoft put a Thermal Sensor sensible to pression under the CPU...? Maybe they put it as a warning if there was something wrong with the X-Clamps? Dunno.

Just changing the Thermal Paste and doing a good and equal tightening should suffice.
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I'm not even going to try to fix it. I'll end up breaking something or not even fix it. I've heard people can end up doing more damage to their 360 (turns to 3 rrod) by trying to fix it.

lol, my bro fixes those. He has a 100% fix rate (he leaves a movie going for like 12hours or something) and he provides a warranty.

I followed this and fixed 3 out of 3 (well 4 out of 4 - as I bought 3 off eBay for ~$50 each and fixed 1 friends)


and for those that get OPEN TRAY when you have a DVD in it, I did this and fixed it (Lite-On dvd if it makes a diff):
Took out DVD
Unscrewed 4 screws and took apart DVD
Blew it out with compressed air (something looked like it flew out - not sure)
Put back together.
*This lasted about 4 days and same problem occurred
I slightly unscrewed the 4 screws of the dvd and it worked again for about a week
Then I got the OPEN TRAY issue, I took out the disk and shook the 360
*not like a maraca but more like Jiffy Pop Popcorn and the problem never came back

Hope this helps someone

[quote name='Commadore64' post='1881490' date='Apr 6 2009, 01:30 PM']I followed this and fixed 3 out of 3 (well 4 out of 4 - as I bought 3 off eBay for ~$50 each and fixed 1 friends)


and for those that get OPEN TRAY when you have a DVD in it, I did this and fixed it (Lite-On dvd if it makes a diff):
Took out DVD
Unscrewed 4 screws and took apart DVD
Blew it out with compressed air (something looked like it flew out - not sure)
Put back together.
*This lasted about 4 days and same problem occurred
I slightly unscrewed the 4 screws of the dvd and it worked again for about a week
Then I got the OPEN TRAY issue, I took out the disk and shook the 360
*not like a maraca but more like Jiffy Pop Popcorn and the problem never came back

Hope this helps someone[/quote]
Lol, I don't see how that would help with broken solderings :/

3 phone calls (one lasting 15 minutes), 1 week later I have my warranty sorted. It is getting shipped to Microsoft soon.

UPS man just came and went. ^__^