Gaming What's the difference between 360s?

[deathfisaro]

I see there are like core, premium, Elite, and stuff.
360 is the only next gen console thing I don't have access to, (My girlfriend has a Wii but she lives quite far so I might just get a Wii as well, but choosing which model of Wii to get is very simple)

but I found Elite too expensive. If I have 500GB external HDD and Blu-ray player, I figure there's very little merit of large HDD and HD-DVD drive. But what exact difference are there between different models?
Are all models moddable?
Also, are any models obsolete in North America? The cheapest I see in nearby retailers are $499 bundle pack.

I figured instead of buying 4 multi platform games for PS3, I'd just get a cheap model or used working 360 and run backup DVD off it.

P.S. anybody selling modded working used 360 for cheap?

 

[Xbox360]

I see there are like core, premium, Elite, and stuff.
360 is the only next gen console thing I don't have access to, (My girlfriend has a Wii but she lives quite far so I might just get a Wii as well, but choosing which model of Wii to get is very simple)

but I found Elite too expensive. If I have 500GB external HDD and Blu-ray player, I figure there's very little merit of large HDD and HD-DVD drive. But what exact difference are there between different models?
Are all models moddable?
Also, are any models obsolete in North America? The cheapest I see in nearby retailers are $499 bundle pack.

I figured instead of buying 4 multi platform games for PS3, I'd just get a cheap model or used working 360 and run backup DVD off it.

P.S. anybody selling modded working used 360 for cheap?

Core: Comes with a few accessories, no HDD, but very cheap.
Premium: 20GB HDD, comes with all the accessories you need and a 1 month Gold Live! Card
Elite: 120GB HDD, HDMI, Revised MoBo and comes with all the extras Premium does and has stored content on the HDD already, which you can delete if you wish to.

It's defianatly worth it, the 360 is an amazing console, out of all the consoles, handhelds and even my PC, I prefer gaming on it.

 

[deathfisaro]

Thanks for answering, I still need to know about other two

2) Are all models moddable?
Also, 3) are any models obsolete in North America? The cheapest I see in nearby retailers are $499 bundle pack
And new question arose, Revised MoBo means it doesn't get the ring of death?

 

[aslacker55]

Thanks for answering, I still need to know about other two

2) Are all models moddable?
Also, 3) are any models obsolete in North America? The cheapest I see in nearby retailers are $499 bundle pack
And new question arose, Revised MoBo means it doesn't get the ring of death?

2) It depends what dvd drive you get with the 360. There are Benq drive that can't be softmodded and the hitachi v0079 will need to desolder the firmware chip and program it externally.

3) No models are obselete. The revised MoBo puts a new heatsink, but it doesn't mean you won't get the 3 RROD.

 

[deathfisaro]

So if I can get a hold of core with right drive, kill it, get it A/Sed and mod it am I good to go? Gotta start looking for one.

 

[SlyGuy]

I'm holding off on buying one because if it breaks and you've voided your warrenty by modding it, good luck on getting that fixed! Considering 33% of all XBOX 360's (alegedly) are having problems, it's not something I'm willing to risk as of yet.

If they improve their hardware soon, I'll look into it. Then again, they would have to rehack that I'm sure!

 

[deathfisaro]

I'm holding off on buying one because if it breaks and you've voided your warrenty by modding it, good luck on getting that fixed! Considering 33% of all XBOX 360's (alegedly) are having problems, it's not something I'm willing to risk as of yet.

If they improve their hardware soon, I'll look into it. Then again, they would have to rehack that I'm sure!

Wait, so even after I kill it and get A/Sed, it will die again? If that's true, it shouldn'be called after "service". Wow that really turned me down. I seriously wonder why users haven't sued Microsoft already if A/S doesn't fix the RRoD.

 

[SlyGuy]

I'm holding off on buying one because if it breaks and you've voided your warrenty by modding it, good luck on getting that fixed!  Considering 33% of all XBOX 360's (alegedly) are having problems, it's not something I'm willing to risk as of yet.

If they improve their hardware soon, I'll look into it.  Then again, they would have to rehack that I'm sure!


Wait, so even after I kill it and get A/Sed, it will die again? If that's true, it shouldn'be called after "service". Wow that really turned me down. I seriously wonder why users haven't sued Microsoft already if A/S doesn't fix the RRoD.

Sorry, what do you mean by "killing it and getting it A/Sed"? You are going to try and burnout your 360 on purpose and then take it in to be repaired?

 

[deathfisaro]

When I'm not using it, I'll just leave it on forever on some game's title screen (electricity is included in my rent so doesn't matter how much it eats up, of course TV will be turned off) until it gets RRoD,
When I'm awake AND not playing DS AND not playing PSP AND not playing PS3, I'll play it normally.

I'm not aware of how long it will take, but for sure I won't do that during summer, I don't want a radiator running in my living room when it's already hot, and I don't want to buy mediocre games that I know can be run on backups so probably wait until Blue Dragon too. I need a game to play when it doesn't get RRoD fast enough and there's no other game that interests me atm. I'm purely investing in for upcoming multi platform titles like GTA, Assassin's Creed, and whatnot.

Sorry, what do you mean by "killing it and getting it A/Sed"? You are going to try and burnout your 360 on purpose and then take it in to be repaired?

Exactly, so I can be free from "can't get a/sed because modded" hassle, assuming a/s fixes the problem.

 

[Azimuth]

Its hard to purposely get RRoD, even if you leave the 360 on for a long time. I have had my 360 for almost a year now and have left it on for 16hrs straight with no problems. Its just your luck, you might get RRoD at any time.

Getting it serviced on purpose isn't wise, they just stick in another heatsink or give you a refurbished console and theres still a chance it will get RRoD again.

Sooner or later you will void the warranty, so why not do it now?

 

[legendofphil]

It seems that fixed consoles have a much shorter life span.
Mine lasted 8 months then died, repaired (new mobo), lasted 2 months and now its off being repaired again and apprently its going to take 4-6 weeks, last time it was 1 week.

 

[Jiggah]

The easiest way to do this would be to use the towel trick to make sure the board itself flexs and causes the solder to melt, then even if it works, you can return it saying that you'll get occasional TRoDs. Sometimes it'll run fine, sometimes it won't. When they check the board itself, the soldering and the board should have flexed. It's just a thought.

 

[fuuuuuu]

Dont mean to jack the thread but what about 360 backups? do you run them from a HD? or dvd? i i herd the games are dual layered or something like that or are there stripped versions brought out by release groups?

 

[ZeWarrior]

Most games are on DL Disks. They are usually ran from DVDs I think there is one cf that uses the harddrive

 

[deathfisaro]

Meh, if I buy 360 to save money from buying multi platform games but I don't think it's worth the effort. I'll wait until fixed models come out, then the old models price would drop significantly, then I'll grab a working second hand old model for cheap.

 

[lanleague]

The 360 is about to drop in price, but still pass on it. Wait for the new 65nm chips to come out first.

 

[SlyGuy]

What advantage will the new chips hold?

 

[Jiggah]

Less heat, maybe better performance. It could potentially move to a smaller Xbox.

 

[aslacker55]

Improved heat dissipation and less power consumption.

 

[Tomobobo]

As soon as I get my laser for my 360 in, I'm selling it for $300. It's modded.