The Jontron Drama

[endoverend]

I don't really care about his beliefs, but why risk subscribers and reputation for something as dumb as politics? Are you really doing all that much good by tweeting about politics? Can't entertainers just stick to making content? Not that they shouldn't express their beliefs, but in a situation like this it prompts one to ask whether it's really worth it.

 

[ShadowOne333]

Being popular on youtube is not much different from being popular on 'tv' these days. You have no idea what you're talking about.
This isn't 2001 anymore. Get with the times grandpa.
What platform someone uses to get themselves 'out there' has absolutely nothing to do with their intelligence. You're a random nobody so really "Amazing how a person who eats cheetos and mcdonalds all day posting on GBAtemp thinks he has a valid opinion on topics which are way above him."
Get outta here you monkey.

Coincidentally i've never really liked Jontron. Though I have no real opinion on what he said since nothing he stated seemed really outlandish.

You seem to be missing the point.
It is not the fact that he is a celebrity of some sort or that he gets his "opinion" out there through the means he knows. It's because he is someone who makes a living out of posting gaming videos on YouTube, and as such, should stick to what he knows.

The fact that he knows nothing about politics, racism, terrorism or other important topics is clearly seen by his absurd and idiotic comments on those subjects.

His biggest issue is finding a fucking Star Coin in New Super Mario Bros., he obviously knows next to nothing about the actual topics he brings up.

Seriously guys, what could you expect of him? An in depth research and discussion? Heck no. These kind of people who think that just because they are famous are entitled to a word in any topic should simply be ignored.

Only one of two things will come out of this: He either raises viewers a bit due to the drama, or loses people. And I expect the second due to his ignorant comments.

 

[The Catboy]

Only one of two things will come out of this: He either raises viewers a bit due to the drama, or loses people. And I expect the second due to his ignorant comments.

IDK, we live in a world where someone could make poorly thought out and stupid comments, but still become the president ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Our current culture has become an extreme on both sides. Either people are looking to extremely offensive or looking to be extremely offended. There's no middle ground anymore.

 

[linuxares]

I got to ask, isn't Japan really xenophobic? How is that a model society?

 

[ShadowOne333]

IDK, we live in a world where someone could make poorly thought out and stupid comments, but still become the president ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Our current culture has become an extreme on both sides. Either people are looking to extremely offensive or looking to be extremely offended. There's no middle ground anymore.

Yeah sadly that's how it is :/

 

[DarthDub]

He argued against some streamer named Destiny. I honestly thought they were talking about the game at first.

 

[The Catboy]

I wanted to use an actual clip for this, but fucking copyright laws ruined that for me. So here's the quote that I wanted a clip for!
"You sound smart like Hugh Grant the movie star, but you're stupid like Hugh Grant the person!"
American Dad - Killer Vacation

 

[Rockhoundhigh]

Jesus, I've heard he's said some awful stuff before but this. It's just pathetic.

 

[Xexyz]

I don't know how you can defend this stuff, this is legitimately white supremacist BS.

In regards to black people

• Well I don't know if these arguments can hold up decade after decade. There is like, 18 year old people who are committing a disproportionate amount of crime and they were born after me. So how do you explain that? Is that Jim Crow? Nobody wants to get into the realistic things... They just want to blame whites more and more.
  
  
• I don't understand why it is anyone else's responsibility but their own. Do they not have agency?
  
  
• The UK didn't have Jim Crow, France didn't have Jim Crow. We still have Muslim riots over there. In sweden, they didn't have Jim Crow. There are riots in the streets of Stockholm.
  
  
• So Jim Crow is one aspect of it here in America but in the rest of the western world, we don't have these same precedents and there is still disproportionate crime in those communities.
  
• You can't make the argument that whites would be okay with them becoming a minority in the country their ancestors built if it doesn't apply to other countries.
  
  
• Wealthy blacks also commit more crime than poor whites, that's a fact.
  
  
• But we've been hearing this single mother thing for decades. It's getting a bit tired. That's why you're seeing this rise in "nazis".

On Japan

• Nobody would ask Japan if it was okay if Japan became a minority Japanese nation.
  
  
• I disagree I think it [Japan] is a model society.
  
  
• How many terrorist attacks are in Japan?

On being white

• What is so offensive about white people saying they'd like to preserve their demographic majority?
  
  
• In terms of a demographic majority, I don't think a nation can exist without one. This truly multicultural every single person is a different race or religion. I don't know if that's really sustainable long term.
  
  
• (On Irish/Italians being discriminated against) Being irish or people not liking the irish or italians doesn't make them not white. It just makes them not liked. Perhaps they had some undesirable traits. I heard the Italian Mafia made the rounds. But that would have been a good argument to restrict italian immigration!
  
  
• It's clear that whites are not allowed to speak up against their demographic um... oblivion.
  
  
• They're [whites] are not being killed, they're being displaced. You are the same guy who says that Europeans displaced the native Americans but apparently, when other people do it to white Americans, it's okay because fuck white people.
  
  
• Why is it when the chinese were trying to colonise tibet, why was that a save tibet situation but when it's white people... I'm using an analogy to try to give a parallel situation so you can see the hypocrisy.
  
  
• Do you consider the european colonisation of Africa a bad thing? (Destiny replies that it's complicated). It's only complicated because it's whites.
  
  
• If white people go to south africa and colonised there, it's the white people encroaching on the African's land and they should give it back.
  
  
• There is a clear divide in the way that people think. White people tend towards the Libertarian side and at least the first generation Mexicans vote heavily for government handouts. (Destiny mentions that red states take more govt handouts than blue states). These states (Southern red states (Alabama, Loiusiana)) have high non white populations.
  
  
• There is an absolute disproportionate of crime committed to whites by nonwhites. There's no arguing that that's just FBI statistics. But white people are not allowed to address this because it's called racist by people like you.
  
  
• In historically white countries, it is seen as a moral imperative that whites don't resist their own displacement. If they resist it, they're racist. You can see this in every white country on planet earth. The status quo thinks that the only logical conclusion to the country, to atone for the sins of the white past is to keep letting in people from the third world until white people are a minority.
  
• When white people are aggressed against in their own nations by people that are not white, they are told constantly, check your privilege. You colonised us, you owe us this land blah blah blah.
  
  
• That is not true that they (irish/italians) were not considered white people.

On Trump

• Trump is a reaction to the retarded identity politics of the left for at least the last 4 years.
  
  
• I don't recall Trump ever saying anything explicitly racist.
  
  
• When you have these illegals coming up and being so bold to say "try deporting me Trump", that's a sign of a problem.
  
  
• Nobody wants to become a minority in their own country. Why is it bad if they (whites) remain a majority?

Mexican immigrants

• Ay yi yi dude you're just virtue signalling. Not all Mexicans are going to go on welfare but a lot of them are going to commit crimes. The El Salvadoreans are going to create the MS13 gangs.
  
  
• These days the confederate flag has been banned, they're burning american flags in the streets. It's a changing nation. And I think immigration policies that haven't been the smartest are partially to blame for that.
  
  
• What do you call a large number of people from one specific place, coming in, setting up their ethnic enclaves and then waving their own flag inside of our nation? There are large swathes of them who want to break parts of America back into Mexico.

Europe

• I mean who in Europe is causing riots currently? It is all interconnected (to the US) dude because Europeans are the ones who founded this country and Europe is having similar problems. So if you look at the parallels, you can understand.
  
  
• Btw, Europe and America it's not different, even though you say it's different, it is not. They're all facing problems coming from a similar part of the world.
  
  
• When people, lets say the French, see an influx of islamic migrants who come in and say, you don't give us good enough handouts. You're being racist to us and then they're rioting. It's all intertwined, it's the same situation but they speak a different language. That's like you saying a man ate a sandwich in France and a man ate a sandwich in America is not the same situation.

Other musings

• Why does an economy have to keep growing forever? People don't need gadgets all the time.
  
  
• Are people getting along better? It seems to me that people are screaming more recently.
  
  
• We've gotten rid of discrimination in our western countries. If you don't think we've gotten rid of discrimination, you're living in a fantasy land.
  
  
• This oppression in America, it doesn't exist.

 

[Aurora Wright]

I guess blacks have the violence gene and the crime gene, like LGBT people have the suicide and mental illness genes. /s

 

[Dork]

are you people women? this is the type of stupid gossip you see in those tabloids at the fucking grocery store

also all of those who think he should just stick to video games, you have no respect for anyone and you don't know shit about anything

 

[jimbo13]

I got to ask, isn't Japan really xenophobic? How is that a model society?

Japan has one of the highest education levels, life expectancy, GDP, personal income etc. Nearly any metric you can gauge general quality of life Japan is generally excelling.

On that note who gives a shit if they don't embrace/want multilculturalism.

Dear liberals with a foreigner fetish, Multi-culturalism is not the only model in which a society should function, Not everyone wants multiculturalism in fact it seems to turn every place where it is encouraged in to a fucking cesspool.

If Immigrants were so great they wouldn't need to flee a shitty country to flee the people you are importing.

 

[Kioku]

Forget it..

 

[SonicCloud]

Today! On the Internet! : Youtubers with superiority complex!

*slowly leaves*

 

[aljpn91]

white male here, came at me bitch
Edit: how can a mixed race dude be a white supremacist lol

 

[bi388]

There are people in this thread discrediting Jon and his views because he makes a living off of video games and such, and thats not really ok. Everyone has the right to voice their opinions and use their platform as long as they are not clearly intending to get their followers to harm others. But seriously, the things he said seem so incredibly ignorant. But I will still watch his content.

 

[aljpn91]

imo he's just a concerned citized that doesn't want to see his coutry get raped by refugees
at least he doesnt care about political correctness and isn't afraid to speak his mind

 

[Kioku]

imo he's just a concerned citized that doesn't want to see his coutry getting raped by refugees
at least he doesnt care about political correctness and isn't afraid to speak his mind

If you're not Politically Correct you're wrong... The general consensus of this messed up world...

 

[Sonic Angel Knight]

Ummm who is jontron?

 

[linuxares]

Japan has one of the highest education levels, life expectancy, GDP, personal income etc. Nearly any metric you can gauge general quality of life Japan is generally excelling.

And YET you forgot to answer my question... I guess you need to be liberal to be able to read I guess.