I don't have one, actually (my girlfriend does) =] and I was under the impression that the framerates were far more stable on the ps4pro. This isn't true? bummer. And as long as it's not bad upscaling, it's better than the TV doing it. Though my receiver might do a better job of it than the ps4 pro...who knows. VR for my phone is brilliant, at least for por...tion of games. a portion of games. yes. *cough* is ps4 VR that terrible? Or do you just not like VR at all? Anywho, HDR is available on both, so there's not benefit there. and the ps4 pro has heating problems, so that's a negative. I'm lukewarm on it, but I'd rather get a limited edition ps4 pro than a ps4 slim. Maybe one of these days.