Good Graphics Card that isn't a 8800GTS?

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Yes, you can run Gears on that POS card, Doesn't mean it's good. Can you run Crysis on that card without getting poor results? Poor as in Low Settings with only about 30fps.

No, no I can't.

Did I say I could? All I remember saying its a good card for running TF2, and that you don't need a damn 8800.

Honestly, not all of us have 200/300$ to spend on graphic cards.

(Well... TBH I've never even tried running Crysis)

Even if you did you would get poor settings, Trust me on this. And really you should have an 8800GT at least and not an 8500GT. You have 4GB of RAM( which isn't necessary ) and yet you have an 8500GT which to just doesn't seem logical.
 

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The 8600 Line is a poor attempt at a budget card, at least now that the 8800GT is out. Sure the 8600GTS 512MB is only 180$ vs the 250$ but the performance per price ration is MUCH better on the 8800GT, And the 8500GT is a good BUDGET card. se wat i ded thar?
The power supply in my family computer can't handle the 8800GT, and neither will most non-custom built PC be able to handle it, as manufacturers tend to use weak power supply units. A 60$ 8500GT makes much more sense for the average consumer.

I'm not labeling Harsky as the average consumer per se, but I mean, he is asking for advice on just a graphics card, so I'm assuming his PC is store bought, and giving him advice that is most beneficial to him, not the powerhouse gamer with fat wallets.
 

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Yes, you can run Gears on that POS card, Doesn't mean it's good. Can you run Crysis on that card without getting poor results? Poor as in Low Settings with only about 30fps.

No, no I can't.

Did I say I could? All I remember saying its a good card for running TF2, and that you don't need a damn 8800.

Honestly, not all of us have 200/300$ to spend on graphic cards.

(Well... TBH I've never even tried running Crysis)

Even if you did you would get poor settings, Trust me on this. And really you should have an 8800GT at least and not an 8500GT. You have 4GB of RAM( which isn't necessary ) and yet you have an 8500GT which to just doesn't seem logical.
I have 3GB of RAM, first of all, because I do a lot of video editing. Also see previous post.
 

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The 8600 Line is a poor attempt at a budget card, at least now that the 8800GT is out. Sure the 8600GTS 512MB is only 180$ vs the 250$ but the performance per price ration is MUCH better on the 8800GT, And the 8500GT is a good BUDGET card. se wat i ded thar?

The power supply in my family computer can't handle the 8800GT, and neither will most non-custom built PC be able to handle it, as manufacturers tend to use weak power supply units. A 60$ 8500GT makes much more sense for the average consumer.

I'm not labeling Harsky as the average consumer per se, but I mean, he is asking for advice on just a graphics card, so I'm assuming his PC is store bought, and giving him advice that is most beneficial to him, not the powerhouse gamer with fat wallets.



If they can buy a 250$ Graphics Card they can buy 45$ 450Watt PSU. And if he bought a Dell PC EVEN A 305Watt PSU can handle an 8800GT.


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I have 3GB of RAM, first of all, because I do a lot of video editing. Also see previous post.

Two can play at that game. Look at what I just put up there.
 

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If they can buy a 250$ Graphics Card they can buy 45$ 450Watt PSU. And if he bought a Dell PC EVEN A 305Watt PSU can handle an 8800GT.


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I have 3GB of RAM, first of all, because I do a lot of video editing. Also see previous post.

Two can play at that game. Look at what I just put up there.
A 305W PSU can't handle an 8800GT.

And what am I looking at?
 

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If they can buy a 250$ Graphics Card they can buy 45$ 450Watt PSU. And if he bought a Dell PC EVEN A 305Watt PSU can handle an 8800GT.
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I have 3GB of RAM, first of all, because I do a lot of video editing. Also see previous post.

Two can play at that game. Look at what I just put up there.
A 305W PSU can't handle an 8800GT.

And what am I looking at?

Bold

A 305Watt PSU can handle it. But it won't run on full power but it will defitnely run
 

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Is that not what I said in my post like a page and half back. Just take my word for it. If you are on budget, get a last gen card. If you want decent gaming and somewhat future proof get the 8800 GT. If it's just for TF2 meaning you aren't thinking about crysis, gears, etc. then grab the 7900gs.

The 7900GS is DX9 only, but it's faster than the 8600GT. The 8600GT only has DX10, even then it's absolutely unplayable.
 

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Is that not what I said in my post like a page and half back. Just take my word for it. If you are on budget, get a last gen card. If you want decent gaming and somewhat future proof get the 8800 GT. If it's just for TF2 meaning you aren't thinking about crysis, gears, etc. then grab the 7900gs.

The 7900GS is DX9 only, but it's faster than the 8600GT. The 8600GT only has DX10, even then it's absolutely unplayable.

A 7900GS can get Medium on crysis with about 50fps
 

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I might add the X1900 series from ATI looks good, too. It has the advantage of AA+HDR for games like Oblivion, I don't believe you need to worry about that for Source games though, but it's a thought.
 

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If they can buy a 250$ Graphics Card they can buy 45$ 450Watt PSU. And if he bought a Dell PC EVEN A 305Watt PSU can handle an 8800GT.
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I have 3GB of RAM, first of all, because I do a lot of video editing. Also see previous post.

Two can play at that game. Look at what I just put up there.


A 305W PSU can't handle an 8800GT.

And what am I looking at?

Bold

A 305Watt PSU can handle it. But it won't run on full power but it will defitnely run
Unfortunately, thats not how graphic cards work. You'd get BSOD.

But whatever. I'm quitting this "debate", as its useless. If Harsky has 300$ to spend on graphics and take his PC on the next NASA space trip, let him.
 

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If they can buy a 250$ Graphics Card they can buy 45$ 450Watt PSU. And if he bought a Dell PC EVEN A 305Watt PSU can handle an 8800GT.
QUOTE said:
I have 3GB of RAM, first of all, because I do a lot of video editing. Also see previous post.

Two can play at that game. Look at what I just put up there.


A 305W PSU can't handle an 8800GT.

And what am I looking at?

Bold

A 305Watt PSU can handle it. But it won't run on full power but it will defitnely run
Unfortunately, thats not how graphic cards work. You'd get BSOD. That's windows for ya, really though you won't. You'll just get a warning from the Nvidia control panel telling you how the card isn't running on full power until you upgrade the PSU

But whatever. I'm quitting this "debate", as its useless. If Harsky has 300$ to spend on graphics and take his PC on the next NASA space trip, let him.

Bold.
 

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On top of this, is your computer running AGP or PCI-e. If it's like 3-4 years old, it might need an AGP card, which throw out the whole debate of 8 series altogether.
 

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if it's agp nothing beats an nv40 (geforceFX6800) plus you can flash or soft mod it to a perfect quadroFX4000 if you're into 3d modelling/rendering(gelato)/animation

nevertheless nomater what you choose i'd suggest to get a 2nd handed. 99% it will either work or won't work and will save you a lot of money
 

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Harsky...I play Team Fortress 2 on a ATI Radeon 9250SE 128MB. Besides the occational crash due to overheating, I've been still dishing out the pwnage...save your money
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if it's agp nothing beats an nv40 (geforceFX6800) plus you can flash or soft mod it to quadroFX4000 if you're into 3d modelling/rendering(gelato)/animation

nevertheless nomater what you choose i'd suggest to get a 2nd hand. 99% it will either work or won't work and will save you a lot of money

Wtf? An X1950XT kills that card. And wtf you cant soft mod a card into another card.
 

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or for an AGP slot, an x1950pro is probably the best.

oh, and a c2d (e6600) and the 8800GT draw just over 200W from the mains, so a 305w card theoretically could run it, but the voltages on the 12V rail probably would be to little.
 

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