Geohot has set a Legal Defense Fund

[blackdragonbaham]

he shall go down,
hacking his property is one thing, but he should have known that delivering the key to the masses wouln't be without consequences. he could've done it at least anonymously. he's just an egoist who pretends to do the right thing for the interests of the community.

 

[antwill]

he shall go down,
hacking his property is one thing, but he should have known that delivering the key to the masses wouln't be without consequences. he could've done it at least anonymously. he's just an egoist who pretends to do the right thing for the interests of the community.

I don't know if he pretends to. But it's either that or he honestly believes it, which is pretty funny if true. It's probably better to give him the benefit of the doubt and say he's pretending though.

 

[Rydian]

LOL pirates complain about games costing so much yet will willingly donate to him?

The hypocrisy is overwhelming.A game is personal entertainment, whereas this lawsuit can set a legal precedent that affects hundreds of thousands of people.

I hope they take everything he has.So if I get egotistical you're going to wish me into poverty?
Do me a favor and go live on the streets for a few weeks and then see if you're willing to post that again.

I know he's an asshole, but he happens to be on the side that fights for our rights as consumers and non-corporate individualsYeah he's doing a bunch of shit that's getting him a lot of attention, and that's what protesters do. If nobody's paying attention to you you can't get crap done. That rap (as terrible as it was) served to get more people watching the case.

QUOTE(qwety @ Feb 20 2011, 01:09 AM) You guys see a hero, I see an obnoxious [censored]. What am I missing here.

The full story. Try reading the case.
http://ia700401.us.archive.org/35/items/go...965.docket.html

QUOTE(jonesman99 @ Feb 20 2011, 02:00 AM)

If it was a computer manufacturer, they wouldn't have any say so in this case. That would be up to the makers of the OS installed on the computers, like Microsoft, Mac(Apple), or Linux.

And in this case Sony has not only removed the ability to install another OS, but this case involves re-adding the ability to do so.



Posting this post right now because of the quote limit...

 

[Rydian]

It's egohotz, what more did you expect? For him to actually pay his own legal fees?

Please read what you post before you post it. Since it seems you're totally unaware, legal fees for a drawn-out case can reach staggering amounts for an individual to go against a company. As mentioned earlier many suits fail simply because the individual can no longer afford the legal fees, while the companies can maintain them for far, far longer.

QUOTE(blackdragonbahamut @ Feb 20 2011, 06:25 AM) hacking his property is one thing, but he should have known that delivering the key to the masses wouln't be without consequences.

He came out on top in all the other cases. The PS3 scene is not his first scene. Anybody remember "blackra1n"? That's geohot's work, and the librarian of congress ruled that jailbreaking phones was not illegal. If there weren't people pushing for it in that case the change would not have been made, and any of you with a jailbroken phone could face fines in the tens of thousands of dollars via the DMCA, like Sony's trying to do to geohot now.

 

[dib]

I'm failing to see why refusing to abide a corrupt legal system and its domination by corporations translates into worshipping this particular defendant. How is any personality trait relevant to being railroaded by said system? I do not see how being obnoxious warrants any of this.

 

[megawalk]

hmmm i want to win the lottery and donate 5 million euro's
(yeah i am desperate)

I hope you do, because a transaction that large would look suspicious and set off some red flags.

hence why paypal rocks
and if that doesn't work 1000 letters of 5.000 euro's

 

[antwill]

LOL pirates complain about games costing so much yet will willingly donate to him?

The hypocrisy is overwhelming.

A game is personal entertainment, whereas this lawsuit can set a legal precedent that affects hundreds of thousands of people.

So what? There's no need for homebrew, or to hack the console, none at all besides people feeling entitled.

Oh you shouldn't have double posted, you should have edited your post like you tell others.

But in regards to your other point. How could you not remember I know that? I know the fees are incredibly high and was making a joke, hence the emoticon. Remember? I'm the one that made that joke that seemed to get to you about wishing he were homeless after all this.

 

[boktor666]

People should actually be able to put a nothankyou.jpg on his blog. I mean, he doesn't deserve it. Nuff said. (He is one of the people who brought hacks and cheats to PS3, so no support from this front here, I think (opinon) he should be accused guilty, just to show him not to hack everything)

 

[GH0ST]

Raketenfahrrad said...

0 $ from me because:

1. You are the Julian Assange of hackers who cares too much for press attention

2. Because of you the SHAtter bootrom hack was blown (reason probably 1.)

3. You didn't hack the PS3 this time, fail0verflow did but you were just careless enough to post stuff on your page (reason probably 1.)

In the end you brought yourself in that situation, now stop crying for help and get out of it again... alone!!
February 19, 2011 5:21 PM

Just another funny comment on his blog. Sorry.

 

[Law]

I hope they take everything he has.

So if I get egotistical you're going to wish me into poverty?
Do me a favor and go live on the streets for a few weeks and then see if you're willing to post that again.

I'm fairly certain Urza has already "been there, done that".

 

[Wintrale]

I would've probably donated to the guy if he didn't parade around like some sort of Robin Hood. This whole "I'm completely anti-piracy" thing is really annoying, especially since it's mostly his work that has allowed for all the rampant hacking and piracy that's occured recently. If he was so against piracy, he wouldn't have made sure as many people were able to play around with the hack as possible. At the very least, he would've used his "super epic hacking skillz" to make piracy really hard to achieve (something like the iPlayer DS flashcart, which can't load commercial ROMs).

I actually have a question I'd love for him to answer - say Sony actually turns around and says "Okay, from now on all our consoles will be able to run unsigned code but we're still locking out commercial backups - so go wild with your homebrew and emulators", how long will it be 'til someone hacks them to play commercial backups and what would Geohot himself (or any anti-piracy hacker for that matter) do to stop them?

 

[Rydian]

So what? There's no need for homebrew, or to hack the console, none at all besides people feeling entitled.Then what the hell are you doing on this forum? This forum caters to homebrew, console hacking, and allows talk of piracy. If you don't care about any of these (and seem adamantly against some), what are you doing here? There's many other larger forums that have general gaming discussion. Are you just lying about your views in order to have an argument or something?

Oh you shouldn't have double posted, you should have edited your post like you tell others.

The quote limit applies when posting, editing an existing post doesn't bypass the quote limit last I checked. It's only bypassed when quotes are automerged.

But in regards to your other point. How could you not remember I know that? I know the fees are incredibly high and was making a joke, hence the emoticon. Remember? I'm the one that made that joke that seemed to get to you about wishing he were homeless after all this.Please don't joke about stuff like that...

I'm fairly certain Urza has already "been there, done that".I find it odd he'd say that, then. It's a really disproportionate punishment for being showboating and a glory-seeker.


QUOTE(Wintrale @ Feb 20 2011, 08:25 AM)

At the very least, he would've used his "super epic hacking skillz" to make piracy really hard to achieve (something like the iPlayer DS flashcart, which can't load commercial ROMs).

That's not really possible... the hardware of the iplayer isn't open to anybody, people can't just go make new stuff on a whim. In comparison the custom firmwares and tools and such are open source, and there's tons of documentation out there on them. It's easy for a hacker to find out just what and where to poke to disable any protections.

Think back to the DIOS-MIOS release, the guy released it without any protection against playing game backups because he knew that since he was releasing the source it wouldn't take 10 minutes for somebody to find and disable the protection, then recompile a version that plays backups.

QUOTE(Wintrale @ Feb 20 2011, 08:25 AM)

I actually have a question I'd love for him to answer - say Sony actually turns around and says "Okay, from now on all our consoles will be able to run unsigned code but we're still locking out commercial backups - so go wild with your homebrew and emulators", how long will it be 'til someone hacks them to play commercial backups and what would Geohot himself (or any anti-piracy hacker for that matter) do to stop them?

How could geohot do anything in that case? It's between Sony and other people. It's like you asking me what I can do to stop your sister from dating some guy. I'm not involved in that situation at all. Yes geohot could release mods that didn't allow game backups, but then people would just make and use ones that did, and geohot has no way to force other people to use his (and while he can disable the backup playing on the other tools, people could just use the versions he didn't modify). He's not having any sort of control in that situation.

 

[antwill]

So what? There's no need for homebrew, or to hack the console, none at all besides people feeling entitled.Then what the hell are you doing on this forum? This forum caters to homebrew, console hacking, and allows talk of piracy. If you don't care about any of these (and seem adamantly against some), what are you doing here? There's many other larger forums that have general gaming discussion. Are you just lying about your views in order to have an argument or something?

Oh you shouldn't have double posted, you should have edited your post like you tell others.

The quote limit applies when posting, editing an existing post doesn't bypass the quote limit last I checked. It's only bypassed when quotes are automerged.

QUOTE(antwill @ Feb 20 2011, 07:42 AM)

But in regards to your other point. How could you not remember I know that? I know the fees are incredibly high and was making a joke, hence the emoticon. Remember? I'm the one that made that joke that seemed to get to you about wishing he were homeless after all this.

Please don't joke about stuff like that...

Oh, my mistake I never knew there was a quote limit, but it did seem like you've quoted longer than that before. Also there's a thing called a community, you know. And before when I joined this forum (read as: way before you did.) I used to use it to tell me when new games were being released so I knew what to buy when. Back in '06, there was barely any good release sites for Australians anyway, and it was handy going off the recently dumped list to know what to import or judge when AUS would get them. I just figured I'd stick around after that.

And I can joke about whatever I feel like, and geohot being homeless is funny, how will he afford things to hack then. xD

 

[Rydian]

You can only post 5 quotes per post, or the system doesn't let you. If posts are automerged then more can be in a single post, and it seems I can ignore the quote limit when editing my post in the news forums (thanks to somebody in the shoutbox for pointing it out).

 

[[M]artin]

HA! This cocky asshole again? I'd rather donate to Sony.

 

[Slyakin]

So... Now this asshole is asking us for our help? For, the billionth time? We gave him fame for hacking the iPhone. He stole the fame for hacking the PS3.

Naah. I'd rather see him jailed.

 

[antwill]

artin]
HA! This cocky asshole again? I'd rather donate to Sony.

But then how will Geohot afford Lionel Hutz to defend him!?

 

[[M]artin]

artin]
HA! This cocky asshole again? I'd rather donate to Sony.

But then how will Geohot afford Lionel Hutz to defend him!?

LOL

But guys, let's be serious here. Using your wads of cash to make a paper-mâché dildo and shoving it up your ass is a better use of your money than giving it to Georappa the Rappa over here.

 

[retKHAAAN]

I don't think the "anti-GeoHot" people here quite understand the concept of legal precedent...

At this point it doesn't matter what you think about the dude. I personally think he's a tool, especially after his little battle rap...

What this case boils down to is consumer rights. If Sony wins this case it'll set a precedent for all other companies to jump on. Who knows what that could turn into... Individuals getting sued for owning flash carts? Individuals getting sued for installing CFW of any sort on their property? Apple could use the legal precendent set by this case to start suing individuals for jailbreaking their ipods/iphone/ipads. Might as well shut this site down if Sony wins.

 

[antwill]

I don't think the "anti-GeoHot" people here quite understand the concept of legal precedent...

At this point it doesn't matter what you think about the dude. I personally think he's a tool, especially after his little battle rap...

What this case boils down to is consumer rights. If Sony wins this case it'll set a precedent for all other companies to jump on. Who knows what that could turn into... Individuals getting sued for owning flash carts? Individuals getting sued for installing CFW of any sort on their property? Apple could use the legal precendent set by this case to start suing individuals for jailbreaking their ipods/iphone/ipads. Might as well shut this site down if Sony wins.

Oh I quite understand, and really I don't think you understand that you don't have a right to be installing CFW or homebrew in the first place. It all boils down to you feeling entitled to something that shouldn't be. Or do you think every console owner feels the way you do? Because you're wrong if you do.