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As much as i detest and hate GW myself due to many reasons. The recent developments, as of this past week and today, I'm slowly leaning towards them again, as mad as it seems. Call me crazy I know, but now I think it maybe the right time to purchase a new console again, due to their recent announcement regarding 9.2 firmware support. I can put money on that this 10 game limit that SKY3ds uses will no longer be an issue, as they are still the leading flashcard producer with a larger user base to support.
This is big news, and as such, I've adapted the OP to be frontpage-worthy and I stuck the thread right on there. Thanks for the tip, laiba - much appreciated! 
You are one of the only people who had a legitimate reason to be salty at Gateway. Yours was one of the first and most well-documented bricks reported in the entire scene. YOU have the right to hate Gateway. Few others here can say the same.
So... you don't find poor company practices to be something of concern? If Nintendo did that, I wouldn't trust Nintendo enough to buy a product of theirs again for a very long time even if I didn't have the product in question. No one would be hating Gateway right now if they didn't pull a stunt like they did, simple as that.
As to you question of where we draw the line as far as what's acceptable from a company in attempts to secure intellectual property, picture this: You purchase a great car, similar to one of the top models out the, but for a more affordable price. Turns out, completely unbeknownst to you, the car has some sort of smart engine that was essentially stolen from the top model, and so while you're driving on the highway one day,your car just stops and will never start again, you wont be able to get a refund on your car, and the developer of the nicer car blames you. Now, lets say a small percentage of people that actually bought the nice car also had this problem through no fault of their own. You're really saying that it's the customer's fault for this kind of thing, and they shouldn't you know maybe instead be a little pissed at the company that made the nicer car that put in that BS security feature in their smart engine?
I think in that above scenario, plenty of people would hate the company that made the nicer car even if they don't personally have that car.
To everyone saying that Gateway's recommendation to stay on 4.x if you are on that means that the "new" method means less features.
Not necessarily - I would say its more of a "better safe than sorry" or "If it isn't broken, don't fix it." kinda deal.
True, its possible that the new method differs, but why would you change if your current method works?
Similarly, their recommendation to NOT go past 9.2.0.20 is likely made in the same nature - they 'know' (or I guess claim since we haven't seen proof yet) that their new method works on that version but can't guarantee it'll work beyond that. Again, better safe than sorry.
Its entirely possible that Nintendo will fix it, its also possible that Nintendo will not. Why take a chance?
I also agree with what some posted about entitlement.
Be it with regards to the Gateway line or the SKY3DS line.
While some *claim* they only use the card for homebrew (and some may actually only use it for that), the reality is that most use these cards for less than legal purposes.
You're already getting a better deal than buying games new, and most of you have been 'profiting' off of the system for longer already.
You've already made your money back...
You may just aswell complain that Nintendo is upgrading to the New 3DS and releasing games that won't run on your 3DS/3DS XL.
Forcing you to buy new hardware. It'd be much the same as if one of these flash cards was forced to release a new version.
It seems some have gotten a bit spoiled and comfortable in their pirated luxuries.
Not necessarily - I would say its more of a "better safe than sorry" or "If it isn't broken, don't fix it." kinda deal.
True, its possible that the new method differs, but why would you change if your current method works?
Similarly, their recommendation to NOT go past 9.2.0.20 is likely made in the same nature - they 'know' (or I guess claim since we haven't seen proof yet) that their new method works on that version but can't guarantee it'll work beyond that. Again, better safe than sorry.
Its entirely possible that Nintendo will fix it, its also possible that Nintendo will not. Why take a chance?
I also agree with what some posted about entitlement.
Be it with regards to the Gateway line or the SKY3DS line.
While some *claim* they only use the card for homebrew (and some may actually only use it for that), the reality is that most use these cards for less than legal purposes.
You're already getting a better deal than buying games new, and most of you have been 'profiting' off of the system for longer already.
You've already made your money back...
You may just aswell complain that Nintendo is upgrading to the New 3DS and releasing games that won't run on your 3DS/3DS XL.
Forcing you to buy new hardware. It'd be much the same as if one of these flash cards was forced to release a new version.
It seems some have gotten a bit spoiled and comfortable in their pirated luxuries.
Here's what it all comes down to - one company limits their cart to only 10 games, the other bricked several 3DS'es because users dared to buy clone cards which were cheaper and did the same thing. Pretty sure they're bough very, very naughty and only care about money, which is to be expected in this line of business. That being said, we're not judging character, this is not a popularity contest. If Gateway pulls off 9.0.x support without sacrificing any of their awesome features, then props for them - their product has just gotten a zillion times better. If that does not happen and it works the same as Sky3DS, except without a button to switch games, then... well... great that they're adapting?
Yeah, I know. It's coming up to a year already (Jan 2015) it will be and has the time gone quick.
Well I'll be damed.....they found a kernel exploit...very...impressive...I hope that they still only require the card to be inserted to boot into EmuNAND so I can put multiple copies of Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire on my multiple 3DS's with one GW. This is the most exciting month in the 3DS hacking scene ever
If the company disclosed that if you used unauthorized or unlicensed software or hardware, it could potentially cause serious negative repercussions, then it is purely and solely the responsibility of the consumer who makes a conscious decision to use their device or purchase in a way other than that which was originally intended by the manufacturer.
We knew what the risks were the first time any of us decided to mod our consoles. We accepted the risk that came along with the exploits that have been made available.
I guess no one else sees the irony of expecting honor and virtue and ethical behavior from any company whose entire existence is based on intellectual property theft.
That would be like getting mad at the kid selling bootleg DVDs of movies that are still in theaters after your DVD player bricks.
We knew what the risks were the first time any of us decided to mod our consoles. We accepted the risk that came along with the exploits that have been made available.
I guess no one else sees the irony of expecting honor and virtue and ethical behavior from any company whose entire existence is based on intellectual property theft.
That would be like getting mad at the kid selling bootleg DVDs of movies that are still in theaters after your DVD player bricks.
We're not sure of the nature of this tech, gtaking112. For all we know, they might just be emulating a cartridge, which means no enhanced features whatsoever.
If it is a kernel-level exploit though, I can't help but wonder what that means for ssspwn. For all intents and purposes, that'll give everyone an option to use homebrew on 9.0.x, rendering smealum's work... obsolete, really.
If it is a kernel-level exploit though, I can't help but wonder what that means for ssspwn. For all intents and purposes, that'll give everyone an option to use homebrew on 9.0.x, rendering smealum's work... obsolete, really.
So is there any reason why this would not work on anything between 4.6 through 8.0 firmware? It has to be either 4.5 or 9.0/9.2? Just curious since sky 3ds also has it so it only works on 9.0 firmware on up.
Well, not necessarily obsolete.
I'd say it that it would just offer another alternative route.
Alternatives are good.
This. Competition breeds better products, better support, better prices, and a better end-user experience.
No, they wouldn't.
Nintendo have already bricked consoles. They intentionally fucked up region changed Korean wiis with 4.2 and gave you a nice 003 unauthorised device detected.
But as it's Nintendo, they got a free pass.
Everyone complaining not to support Gateway because of the bricks, should not even have a 3ds as Nintendo has done the same thing in the past. But Nintendo, so they get a free pass for it.
Something else to note.
With everyone saying they found the same method that SKY3DS is using.
While again this is possible - I would say they have found / are using a different method.
SKY3DS cards are functional on *ALL* versions.
Gateway specifically mentions 9.0~9.2 and while that doesn't "prove" anything per se, I think that they would not have been so specific if their new version also worked on v5~v8 devices.
We'll just have to see when they update though.
With everyone saying they found the same method that SKY3DS is using.
While again this is possible - I would say they have found / are using a different method.
SKY3DS cards are functional on *ALL* versions.
Gateway specifically mentions 9.0~9.2 and while that doesn't "prove" anything per se, I think that they would not have been so specific if their new version also worked on v5~v8 devices.
We'll just have to see when they update though.
Although one of them has shown excellent support while we still don't know about the other.
The other also started a bit rough, introducing the card with DRM stuff from the start. I guess we still don't know if it's because of limitations they faced, so they should get the benefit of doubt.
If I saw MT-Card or Sky3DS or any of the other imitators coming out with a brand-new exclusive feature, say, GBA support, or DSiWare support, THAT would be about the only thing that could redeem them as not being knock-offs of the original.
From what I've read Gateway has had its rough spots as well in the past.
It sounds like the argument people have when a new MMO hits the market.
"GAME X will be the next WoW killer!"
Game releases and people migrate to the new game.
Shortly after they run out of content as they blaze through all of it.
"GAME X doesn't have enough content! I'm going back to WoW!"
Forgetting all about why they left in the first place aswell as forgetting the time and effort it took blizzard to get to the point where they are today.
Sorry to say, but you can't "fake" years of reputation and effort. So obviously any new upstart will have to prove itself first.
And proving yourself rarely is a smooth process, mistakes are made and obstacles are to be overcome.
dsiware support would be possible? Don't think even ds flashcarts have dsiware support.
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