Gaming Why Switch has no backwards compatibility (and other possibilities/workarounds)

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It's not likely a portable gaming device in 2016 has no TouchScreen.
When was the last Nintendo released without some TouchScreen option ?
WiiU had Touchscreen. 3DS had TouchScreen.

TouchScreens are cheaper and popular today ... more than they have ever been.

And you think Nintendo releases a portable gaming device without TouchScreen ?

Not going to happen.

If they do ... they made a HUGE mistake.
There is no proof or disproof at this time of the tablet having a touchscreen. Saying it 1000x times doesn't make you more right.
 

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Do you think it will have a TouchScreen ?
If I had a say in either way I want to believe it will. However there is also evidence that it wont because of Nintendo wanting to stray as far from any connection with the Wii U as possible. They've gone as far as addressing that it is a purely a one screen experience at all times, who is to say they wont remove touchscreen to solidify that statement?

http://gonintendo.com/stories/267431-nintendo-confident-that-consumers-won-t-confuse-switch-for-3ds
 

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The 2 screen thing for the WiiU was a failure.
Better not do that again !
Not nessesarily.

The DS was a Dual Screen system which become the 2nd most highest selling system of all time, having two systems combined with touchscreen was such a unique experience at the time they really brought it home.

The Wii U for its time had already lost steam due to Apple entering the market years ago with its iPad and desensitizing the market. On top of its confusing name and lack of marketing gives it more than one reason to blame it on its unique control scheme.
 
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Cause NO backwards compatibility with physical 3DS carts I will not Switch on (buy NX).
3DS has big and great library. I want it on a big screen. Citra Emulation then. Sorry "Big N", dissapoint with you.
 

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If the system is going to be portable, how on earth to people expect Wii U backwards compatibility. And the same can be said for 3ds games, as both that and the wii u use two screens, one of them being touch enabled. It's very clearly shown that the Switch will only have 1 screen on at a time, either on the portable device or plugged into the dock and on the TV. I just don't see how people expect them to make the switch backward-compatible with those.
It just makes no logical sense in how they would go about making the system backwards compatible with the latest two consoles.

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Cause NO backwards compatibility with physical 3DS carts I will not Switch on (buy NX).
3DS has big and great library. I want it on a big screen. Citra Emulation then. Sorry "Big N", dissapoint with you.
How do you expect them to make a game that runs on two screens run on one screen?
 

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I think Nintendo will be trying to distance themselves as much as they can from previous console/handhelds to reinvent themselves, its all about market share and sales and moving foward, the cartridge idea will also slow down the hacking of the system which will work in their favour for game sales, as long as the price of the console is not over $300 I think it will sell well and if there is heaps of exclusive games then they are on a winner, i just hope this thing has a better battery life than what the Wii U controller had...
 
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Well...they will be porting certant wiiu games on it.Idk if its going to be a 9th gen console or not since we haven't seen any brand new exclusive games on it that wont be on the wiiu.Also Sony are releasing the pro soon and Microsoft are releasing the Scorpio next year which are confirmed to remain 8th gen consoles.They wont have any 9th gen exclusives since a regular ps4,Xbox one will still be able to run the same stuff without upgrading since they both remain 8th gen consoles,so its unwise for Nintendo to force there hand this early.They are pretty much going to force Sony and Microsoft to rush the ps5 and Xbox 2 and before you know it everyone will already be screaming pcmasterrace because of these company's making us waist money on useless versions of consoles we already own when you could of just waited for there 9th gen counterparts instead.
 
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the cartridge idea will also slow down the hacking of the system
This is exactly why Nintendo stuck with cartridges with the N64 while Sony and Sega moved on to disc based media. That didnt end up doing them favors and people forget how quickly flashcarts were made for the DS but despite that it was one of the most successful systems of all time.

Hacking/pirating has nothing to do with them moving to cartridges.
 

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This is exactly why Nintendo stuck with cartridges with the N64 while Sony and Sega moved on to disc based media. That didnt end up doing them favors and people forget how quickly flashcarts were made for the DS but despite that it was one of the most successful systems of all time.

Hacking/pirating has nothing to do with them moving to cartridges.

I'm sure Nintendo will have tightened up on the exploits used on the 3ds/Wii u, but in saying that no everyone is a hacker and Nintendo has always been aimed at a younger audience for games than say PlayStation/XBOX

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Well they will be porting certant wiiu games on it.Idk if its going to be a 9th gen console or not since we haven't seen any brand new exclusive games on it that wont be on the wiiu.
In the video there was a new Zelda which we all know about and what looked like a new Mario galaxy, but yeah wait till January and I'm sure more game info will come out before their launch in march
 

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I'm sure Nintendo will have tightened up on the exploits used on the 3ds/Wii u, but in saying that no everyone is a hacker and Nintendo has always been aimed at a younger audience for games than say PlayStation/XBOX
Not everyone has to be a "hacker" in order to have an exploit. As long as they foolishly allow for an internet browser and some storage media to be inserted it will eventually get cracked.

Its foolish to think any system out there is unhackable, people said the same thing about Denuvo.
 
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I'm In the video there was a new Zelda which we all know about and what looked like a new Mario galaxy, but yeah wait till January and I'm sure more game info will come out before their launch in march
Yea but who knows if they won't port them to the wiiu aswell.We will see though eather way.
 

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If the system is going to be portable, how on earth to people expect Wii U backwards compatibility.
My best friend played Wii U games on his Wii U while on a plane ride. He just plugged the system into an outlet and played from the gamepad.

Don't act like it's so impossible.
 

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My best friend played Wii U games on his Wii U while on a plane ride. He just plugged the system into an outlet and played from the gamepad.

Don't act like it's so impossible.
Not impossible for all wii u games, but again.
How would you put a disc in a portable device.
That would make no sense to do, and thus physical copies would be a no go and it wouldn't be fair to WiiU users if they gave free digital copies of physical games for WiiU ported to Switch. Plus there would be no good way to prove your ownership of the game without it being easy to trick the system (if they had some way to read a disc and then give you a digital game people could just share the disc around). They probably will re-release WiiU games for switch, but you have to realize not all games supported playing only from the gamepad.
If you look at it from any logical standpoint there really would be no good way to have free backwards compatibility.

Edit: It would be possible for eShop purchases, but any physical copy would not work in any good way.
 
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Not impossible for all wii u games, but again.
How would you put a disc in a portable device.
That would make no sense to do, and thus physical copies would be a no go and it wouldn't be fair to WiiU users if they gave free digital copies of physical games for WiiU ported to Switch. Plus there would be no good way to prove your ownership of the game without it being easy to trick the system (if they had some way to read a disc and then give you a digital game people could just share the disc around). They probably will re-release WiiU games for switch, but you have to realize not all games supported playing only from the gamepad.
If you look at it from any logical standpoint there really would be no good way to have free backwards compatibility.

Edit: It would be possible for eShop purchases, but any physical copy would not work in any good way.
I wont argue that backwards compatibility is not going to happen due to how different the architecture is but its definitely possible to port games and I do acknowledge there are games which are impossible to play on the gamepad alone (Splatoon for example.)

The best we can hope for is for ports to be made and digital owners who own it previously on the Wii U could pay a small update charge to send it over similar to what they did for Wii VC to Wii U VC.
 

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nintendo is making ports of their wii u games... and the DS and 3DS can be splited in the screen, I think nintendo will emulate them. also as I know the nvidia shield tablet k1 can emulate most of GC and Wii games at nice framerate... so I think the NS will include VC from NES to Wii and from GB to 3DS... VC will print money to nintendo.
also imagine in the future with the scene, maybe we could have games from other systems like psp and dreamcast... and maybe ps2... just imagine an all in one system.
 

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And the same can be said for 3ds games, as both that and the wii u use two screens, one of them being touch enabled. It's very clearly shown that the Switch will only have 1 screen on at a time, either on the portable device or plugged into the dock and on the TV.

How do you expect them to make a game that runs on two screens run on one screen?

the DS and 3DS can be splited in the screen, I think nintendo will emulate them.
Look at DS Virtual Console on the Wii U
The Wii U doesn't accept cartridges, and although it does have two screens, the case with off TV play on just the Gamepad shows it is indeed possible to do the same with 3DS despite only one screen

Of course, there is the matter of the touchscreen... which Nintendo is refusing to confirm
And as for Wii U backwards compatibility... Mario Kart and Splatoon have possible sequels or enhanced ports, so the same can't be said for the Wii U games
 

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Is it even legal to have shown gameplay like that if it won't/can't run it. If Bethesda won't port Skyrim then why bother showing?
It qualifies as a "tech demo", I'm guessing. You aren't showing the games off, you're showing the limits of what the hardware can do. Though, here in the real world, they're doing both. Pretty sure they're hoping and wanting Bethesda to put some games on the switch, because the western games like bethesda make are becoming far more popular in japan.
 

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