Suggestion Something needs to be done about spam.

cearp · Jun 21, 2016

Lately there have been some malicious users spamming the site, but even before, occasionally there is 'generic' spam, like most forums get.
Can we not make the first 5, the first 10 posts of a user hidden and need to be approved by a mod to be shown?
So, other users will see nothing, or simply see 'awaiting moderation'.
And once a mod comes along and looks in the list, they can either approve the user/post or ban them.

It seems other forums have some things like this, why can't we have it here?
Is it too much work or something?

I just hate seeing people post junk here

vayanui8 · Jun 21, 2016

just ignore it and report it. Eventually they'll get bored. Every once and a while theres a serial spammer but its not that often. It may be alot of work for the staff to get rid of them while they're active, but I can guarantee you itd be much harder for them to go through the posts of every new user and approve them. Everyone flipping out over spam just gives them attention and keeps them coming back longer than they would if you just ignored them till they got bored.

vb_encryption_vb · Jun 21, 2016

Im a mod on another site, all you can do.is report the post, all mods get an email. Than someone, logs in, removes, deletes, bans etc. There really is not an automatic system.

WeedZ · Jun 21, 2016

I just got an idea, get the ip and email from his first account. When he reregisters under a new name, send him an email (his original and new) and pm with info you can gather (general location his ip pings to, internet service provider, etc.) stating that his malicious activity has been reported to his isp and cyber crime authorities of some "internet vandalism law". See if that spooks him.

Rizzorules · Jun 21, 2016

We should just avoid paying attention to spam, every time a stupid post or thread is made there are 1000 replies, those threads will be eventually forgotten and erased

XavyrrVaati · Jun 21, 2016

WeedZ said:
I just got an idea, get the ip and email from his first account. When he reregisters under a new name, send him an email (his original and new) and pm with info you can gather (general location his ip pings to, internet service provider, etc.) stating that his malicious activity has been reported to his isp and cyber crime authorities of some "internet vandalism law". See if that spooks him.

With that logic we could just IP ban him. But he's using a VPN.

Kioku · Jun 21, 2016

Rizzorules said:
We should just avoid paying attention to spam, every time a stupid post or thread is made there are 1000 replies, those threads will be eventually forgotten and erased

That's another issue in its own. It seems to escape people to just report and move on. Then there's those that intentionally fuel the fire.

Sicklyboy · Jun 21, 2016

>IP banning

https://pthree.org/2009/03/08/the-sheer-size-of-ipv6/

Now, what about IPv6? Well, to start, it addresses 2^128 possible IPs, which is 340,282,366,920,938,463,463,374,607,431,768,211,456 possible addresses. There are a lot of technical points of interest with IPv6. First, it is NOT backwards compatible with IPv4, which means we'll be living a dual IP stack for some time. Second, 64-bits of the 128 in IPv6 are dedicated to your Ethernet hardware address, commonly referred to as the MAC address. Which means, that your ISP could give you the other 2^64, or 18,446,744,073,709,551,616 unique IP addresses when you sign up for an account.

"IP banning is a sustainable practice."

*Yes, I know IPv6 is not widely adopted yet*

WeedZ · Jun 21, 2016

XavyrrVaati said:
With that logic we could just IP ban him. But he's using a VPN.

That's not even.. what?

His original account ip would be his actual one. Get info on that, tell him you know where he his, who is isp is, and that he's been reported. If he's some kid, as I assume he his, he would be scared that his parents would get a call from their isp or some internet authority. What does that have to do with ip banning?

Kioku · Jun 21, 2016

... And he's back.

Sicklyboy · Jun 21, 2016

WeedZ said:
That's not even.. what?

His original account ip would be his actual one. Get info on that, tell him you know where he his, who is isp is, and that he's been reported. If he's some kid, as I assume he his, he would be scared that his parents would get a call from their isp or some internet authority. What does that have to do with ip banning?

"Original account IP" does no good if he signed up over a VPN. And the point XavyrrVaati is trying to make is why go through the effort of trying to "scare" them when we could just ban them. We have the warning system to "scare" people. Those who actually care tend to shape up after the first warning.

XavyrrVaati · Jun 21, 2016

WeedZ said:
That's not even.. what?

His original account ip would be his actual one. Get info on that, tell him you know where he his, who is isp is, and that he's been reported. If he's some kid, as I assume he his, he would be scared that his parents would get a call from their isp or some internet authority. What does that have to do with ip banning?

He's using a VPN. So we don't have his IP address.

WeedZ · Jun 21, 2016

Sicklyboy said:
"Original account IP" does no good if he signed up over a VPN. And the point XavyrrVaati is trying to make is why go through the effort of trying to "scare" them when we could just ban them. We have the warning system to "scare" people. Those who actually care tend to shape up after the first warning.

I meant for the sake of getting him to stop making dupe accounts. Idk about you, but if someone told me I was using such and such isp based in such and such state, Provence etc. And that they have been notified of a cyber crimes from my ip, I would be a bit shaken.

Also, I just assumed his original account would have his actual ip, he had no reason to proxy before his first ban.

Ricken · Jun 21, 2016

Damn, mods really are busy rn

I'm almost tempted to phish out his real email (I'm guessing he's using temporary emails), but site rules X_X
How many alts has peter made today? he needs to give up

XavyrrVaati · Jun 21, 2016

WeedZ said:
I meant for the sake of getting him to stop making dupe accounts. Idk about you, but if someone told me I was using such and such isp based in such and such state, Provence etc. And that they have been notified of a cyber crimes from my ip, I would be a bit shaken.

Also, I just assumed his original account would have his actual ip, he had no reason to proxy before his first ban.

We don't know his original account. And I doubt that would stop him, he could just pair tor and his VPN together and pretty much make it impossible for us to prove.

Kioku · Jun 21, 2016

XavyrrVaati said:
We don't know his original account. And I doubt that would stop him, he could just pair tor and his VPN together and pretty much make it impossible for us to prove.

This. Seems like Peter is just an alias, used by a disgruntled former temper. We can all guess and speculate, but we know nothing for sure. Eh. It's a bad game of tag.

insidexdeath · Jun 21, 2016

Solution to spam = just report it instead of replying on Peter's threads.

Kioku · Jun 21, 2016

insidexdeath said:
Solution to spam = just report it instead of replying on Peter's threads.

Please, for the love of God.

The Catboy · Jun 21, 2016

Sicklyboy said:
"Original account IP" does no good if he signed up over a VPN. And the point XavyrrVaati is trying to make is why go through the effort of trying to "scare" them when we could just ban them. We have the warning system to "scare" people. Those who actually care tend to shape up after the first warning.

You know what really needs to be done? People need to start getting warnings/suspensions for bumping spam. There doesn't seem to be any real punishment, either that or the same people just don't care and keep doing it.

zoogie · Jun 21, 2016

Maybe we should have mod approval for the first 50 posts like the site that shall not be named.

Sicklyboy · Jun 21, 2016

Crystal the Glaceon said:
You know what really needs to be done? People need to start getting warnings/suspensions for bumping spam. There doesn't seem to be any real punishment, either that or the same people just don't care and keep doing it.

Shhh now it will all be OK

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