Next gen EA games will skip the Wii U due to Frostbite Engine

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They won't but okay.

They'll sell units and they'll do well but it's not gonna push it to Wii levels of success.

Nothing was going to push it to Wii levels of success--that was a lightning in a bottle moment much like PS2--just like the PS4 and Durango won't, either.
 

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I really hope this doesn't turn the Wii U into Dreamcast 2 (Sega make Dreamcast 2.)
But I strongly doubt this will kill Nintendo as whole or that EA will continue doing this. Eventually one of the companies are going to crack or people are going to start losing money.
 

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But like I said, when Nintendo does, people still don't develop for it because they "can't compete with Nintendo's sales of games."

EA is mad because what, Mass Effect 3 didn't sell well, neither did Madden or their other games? Well no shit they didn't, why would they? Only a moron would think they would sell well considering how half assed they were. EA released Mass Effect 3 on the WiiU around the same time the trilogy was going on sale on the other consoles. Madden was late, Need for Speed was late.

This is just EA being stupid, making stupid business decisions, and pinning the blame on someone/something else.

Implying that the games sold badly because of EA and not because the Wii U is doing badly.

okay.
 

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On the topic of Wii U CPU, I don't think it's weak when played to its advantages, but the engine likely isn't optimised for it. Wii U CPU is clocked lower but still perform on par with x360 cpu due to slightly modern desgin, more threads, more/fast cache and out of order execution processor. So frostbite engine is a CPU heavy engine, Wii U has work arounds trying to be on par with current gen CPU, but the engine isn't optimised for Wii U and may struggle on Wii U processor as it is different to current gen.

That's my take. Wii U CPU may be missing some features to enable frostbite to operate properly. Wii U's strength is its GPU, frostbite engine is CPU heavy.
 

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It's not a matter of if the Wii U can run the engine, it's just a matter of how well it can run the engine.

The Wii could run Call of Duty 4 on the same engine as the Xbox 360 and PS3. But it's still miles apart in terms of its capabilities and it's not a simple port.

If we see a similar gap between the Wii U and the PS4/Nextbox then there won't be much motivation to downport. The CoD games at least sold a healthy amount on the Wii. Not as much as the other consoles but enough to warrant an easy port. Considering developers are already expressing difficulty with porting current gen games, imagine that with next gen games.
 

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I feel like I'm one of the few wii u owners that actually faces the reality that the console is in serious serious trouble.
It's funny reading all these posts and threads that try to justify owning it and how it doesn't need all these games and developers for it.
But uh...
Yeah it sure as hell does.
A console doesn't sell soley based on its exclusives no matter how much you want to believe that.
It takes a healthy selection of First AND third party, and quite frankly, all third parties are jumping off the wii u ship.
AND THAT'S
NOT
GOOD.
 

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Implying that the games sold badly because of EA and not because the Wii U is doing badly.

okay.

Yeah, actually it is. Especially when say Mass Effect 3, is 80 fucking dollars before taxes at Wal-Mart. This is literally just EA being dumb.

Saying that the WiiU's sales are the reason is moot considering Capcom is developing Resident Evil Revelations for it, Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate was made for it when it could have been 3DS only like Monster Hunter 4, hell even Call of Duty Ghosts is being developed for the WiiU despite sales.

EA has just been shooting themselves in the foot when other developers and publishers are not releasing half assed attempts of games.
 

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Yeah, actually it is. Especially when say Mass Effect 3, is 80 fucking dollars before taxes at Wal-Mart. This is literally just EA being dumb.

Saying that the WiiU's sales are the reason is moot considering Capcom is developing Resident Evil Revelations for it, Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate was made for it when it could have been 3DS only like Monster Hunter 4, hell even Call of Duty Ghosts is being developed for the WiiU despite sales.

EA has just been shooting themselves in the foot when other developers and publishers are not releasing half assed attempts of games.

Why Walmart? There are other ways of getting the game. Damn, your taxes suck balls. The console is capable of good ports (like NFSMW having PC enhancements). The first wave of ports were rushed, EA is just bitter like a bitching twelve year old.
 

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It's not a matter of if the Wii U can run the engine, it's just a matter of how well it can run the engine.

The Wii could run Call of Duty 4 on the same engine as the Xbox 360 and PS3. But it's still miles apart in terms of its capabilities and it's not a simple port.

If we see a similar gap between the Wii U and the PS4/Nextbox then there won't be much motivation to downport. The CoD games at least sold a healthy amount on the Wii. Not as much as the other consoles but enough to warrant an easy port. Considering developers are already expressing difficulty with porting current gen games, imagine that with next gen games.
Current gen engines are all CPU heavy coded due to the power of the cell and x360 cpu. Their GPU wasn't powerful. That's why porting games to Wii U sometimes don't go well, or no real upgrade. We have seen the PS4, it is going with a powerful GPU, CPU not so hardcore as cell. Also likely with the next xbox, hence Wii U has a chance to get down ports that won't require much effort as they will be on the same wavelength. Wii U is GPU more focused, now if it's decent it can get multiplatform games with next gen using similar engine and approach.
 

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The love and apparent lack of animosity in this thread sure is profound. I should come here more often.
I am not going to lie, I am huge Nintendo fan and favor Nintendo products greatly, but Nintendo is in trouble right now. During E3 Nintendo wrote this massive check that the Wii U will make up for all the crap the Wii created, that it was going to get all the hardcore games and that it was going to be hardcore serious system, but they haven't shown that. There have been very few games released for it and almost all the games are coming out this Summer or next year. That's a serious slap in the face for those who bought the system early because it seems like both the fans and Nintendo should have waited. Not to mention EA, though an evil piece of shit, their games sell and a lot of people buy them, for the Wii U not getting them (or at least the big ones like Mass Effect 4, Madden, ect.) only leaves Nintendo behind again.
As a concerned fan, I am worried that the Wii U is just going to be left behind in games like the Wii was. Yes the Wii had some amazing first/second party games, and the Wii U has some amazing first/second party games coming out for it, but it can't be left behind in the 3rd party again. Even if the system succeeds and sells well in the future, it will still leave a nasty taste in months of those expecting better from Nintendo with 3rd party games.
 

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I am not going to lie, I am huge Nintendo fan and favor Nintendo products greatly, but Nintendo is in trouble right now. During E3 Nintendo wrote this massive check that the Wii U will make up for all the crap the Wii created, that it was going to get all the hardcore games and that it was going to be hardcore serious system, but they haven't shown that. There have been very few games released for it and almost all the games are coming out this Summer or next year. That's a serious slap in the face for those who bought the system early because it seems like both the fans and Nintendo should have waited. Not to mention EA, though an evil piece of shit, their games sell and a lot of people buy them, for the Wii U not getting them (or at least the big ones like Mass Effect 4, Madden, ect.) only leaves Nintendo behind again.
As a concerned fan, I am worried that the Wii U is just going to be left behind in games like the Wii was. Yes the Wii had some amazing first/second party games, and the Wii U has some amazing first/second party games coming out for it, but it can't be left behind in the 3rd party again. Even if the system succeeds and sells well in the future, it will still leave a nasty taste in months of those expecting better from Nintendo with 3rd party games.

E3 has got to be the moment where they shine and get the appeal of other companies. It's now or never. But the Wii U has not flopped like the VirtualBoy, so we can be grateful for that. And with the advent of the eventual hack, that should keep interest alive I would think. I admit it, it's shaky, much like the 3DS was, and history often repeats.
 
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Yeah, actually it is. Especially when say Mass Effect 3, is 80 fucking dollars before taxes at Wal-Mart. This is literally just EA being dumb.
How many people own a Wii U compared to the amount of people who own a PS3 or a 360?
Only people who actually own a Wii U would buy the Wii U versions of those games. This would explain (at least partially) why those games sold less on the Wii U.
(Also, the fact that these games had been out for a longer time on the PS3/360 than on the Wii U.)
 
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I'm just gonna say, I'm not worried about the WiiU at all. There's no reason for me to be.

The 3DS was going through the same thing, then look what happened. Nintendo knows what it's doing. I'm not worried. I play my WiiU more than my PS3 anyways. Though I do have a hankering to play some Uncharted, but it can wait. I'm having a blast with my WiiU and I'm so excited to see what's coming next.
 

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