Three Wuhan lab researchers were hospitalized in November 2019

[Julie_Pilgrim]

average sources fan vs average "idk it felt right" enjoyer

 

[Deleted member 559230]

Yay you posted a source. Good for you. Now was that hard?

Posting it was redundant as I already provided instructions on how to find sources. It just seems some people need their hand held like 5 year olds.

 

[weatMod]

Okay, you know what, I've met some dumb people in my lifetime. Some so stupid they could barely comprehend a BOB book.

But you my friend, not only take the cake, but the souffle,

oh gosh no
please
Don't bring that up in here.



Conspiracy theories need evidence to be backed up.
I will never care about a conspiracy theory unless you can defend it with more sources than a Doctoral Thesis.
This, everything in this quote, is frankly B.S.

Viruses are naturally occurring, and humans have genome editing. That doesn't support that COVID-19 was man-made. There are thousands of naturally-occurring Coronavirus-type diseases that come from everywhere. There's an even stronger possibility it was created by God.

Communism eh? You a rich guy? You own guns?

I'm middle class in a city where property is valued too high. My family is overworked, and we still barely receive a living wage while fat cats who push anti-socialism and anti-communism are making fools of themselves when they could single-handedly stop world hunger. May heaven itself forbid that you are poor. There's virtually no chance of a homeless person becoming a rich person or someone with enough money to support a family because of how little the rich care.

I support socialism fully. A reformed socialist society could better America faster than "trickle-down economics" (TDE)

Name one thing good that came out of TDE for the poor and middle-class.

"I'm middle class in a city where property is valued too high. My family is overworked, and we still barely receive a living wage while fat cats who push anti-socialism and anti-communism"

You really do not understand communism or political science do you
you do know that YOU , "I'm MIDDLE CLASS" ARE the target class to be destroyed right
you are the "bourgeoisie" , bourgeoisie =middle class according to Marxism

you do also know that it was capitalist bankers from NY , from Wall St. who funded the revolution in Russia
source, Antony Sutton.
it IS th efat cats who are pushing FOR communism and socialism

 

[Julie_Pilgrim]

Strong possibility of me doing your mom

strong possibility of you getting 0 bitches

 

[Seliph]

strong possibility of you getting 0 bitches

Strong possibility of you being absolutely incorrect

 

[SG854]

Posting it was redundant as I already provided instructions on how to find sources. It just seems some people need their hand held like 5 year olds.

Scientist always cite their sources. Are you saying that what they do is redundant? They are very smart and know more then you. So they must know what they are doing better then you.

 

[Julie_Pilgrim]

Strong possibility of you being absolutely incorrect

nice argument, however i had intimate sexual relations with both of your parents last night

 

[WG481]

"I'm middle class in a city where property is valued too high. My family is overworked, and we still barely receive a living wage while fat cats who push anti-socialism and anti-communism"

You really do not understand communism or political science do you
you do know that YOU , "I'm MIDDLE CLASS" ARE the target class to be destroyed right
you are the "bourgeoisie" , bourgeoisie =middle class according to Marxism

you do also know that it was capitalist bankers from NY , from Wall St. who funded the revolution in Russia
source, Antony Sutton.
it IS th efat cats who are pushing FOR communism and socialism

Really?
Because last time I checked, rich people called people pushing for communism "Commie Bastards" and "Russians"
Nothing you have said over the last, i dunno, week contains factual support.

 

[Seliph]

You really do not understand communism or political science do you
you do know that YOU , "I'm MIDDLE CLASS" ARE the target class to be destroyed right
you are the "bourgeoisie" , bourgeoisie =middle class according to Marxism

Please dear god do not pretend like you understand Marx lol. When talking about Marx, the term bourgeoisie is used to describe anyone who owns the means of production, or anyone who profits off of the ownership of private property in somewhat simpler terms. The French understanding of the term is used to denote middle class, but the Marxian understanding of the term bourgeoisie is different. You're confusing the colloquial French term with the Marxist term, a mistake many people tend to make.

The Marxian category of the bourgeoisie includes CEOs, Landlords, etc. not the "middle class". In Marxian analysis there is no such thing as "middle, lower, or upper" class. There is only the proletariat (worker class) and bourgeoisie (owner class). Of course there are subgroups within these groups such as the lumpenproletariat or the petit bourgeoisie. The ideas of a "middle, upper and lower" class are Capitalist distinctions based on income bracket, they don't really have much place in Marxist thought. Certainly some "middle class" people could be considered petit bourgeoise (working-class landlords and some small business owners tend to fall into this distinction) but to say that bourgeoisie = middle class is complete nonsense. In Marxism class is defined by your relationship to the means of production (whether you own it or not), not your income bracket.

If you work for a wage to survive, you are most likely considered to be a member of the proletariat. If you profit off of the labor of your workers to survive, you are most likely considered to be a member of the bourgeoisie.

 

[weatMod]

Please dear god do not pretend like you understand Marx lol. When talking about Marx, the term bourgeoisie is used to describe anyone who owns the means of production, or anyone who profits off of the ownership of private property in somewhat simpler terms. The French understanding of the term is used to denote middle class, but the Marxian understanding of the term bourgeoisie is different. You're confusing the colloquial French term with the Marxist term, a mistake many people tend to make.

The Marxian category of the bourgeoisie includes CEOs, Landlords, etc. not the "middle class". In Marxian analysis there is no such thing as "middle, lower, or upper" class. There is only the proletariat (worker class) and bourgeoisie (owner class). Of course there are subgroups within these groups such as the lumpenproletariat or the petit bourgeoisie. The ideas of a "middle, upper and lower" class are Capitalist distinctions based on income bracket, they don't really have much place in Marxist thought. Certainly some "middle class" people could be considered petit bourgeoise (working-class landlords and some small business owners tend to fall into this distinction) but to say that bourgeoisie = middle class is complete nonsense. In Marxism class is defined by your relationship to the means of production (whether you own it or not), not your income bracket.

If you work for a wage to survive, you are most likely considered to be a member of the proletariat. If you profit off of the labor of your workers to survive, you are most likely considered to be a member of the bourgeoisie.

yes in theory but in the end everyone ends up in the gulag
they could not sell it if they told the truth ,you know you catch more bees with honey than with vinegar
but in the end in USSR even the prolls ended up dead or in the gulag
working for the real owner class, the oligarchs
both capitalist and communist systems end up the same way a futile slave class and a super class
communist system - Roman Arbamovitch, capitalist system - Michael Bloomberg
as two examples
that is why Wall St. funded the revolution in Russia
the same people always end up at the top , not the proletariat or working class, certainly not middle class
both systems aim to eviscerate the middle class in the end.

 

[Seliph]

yes in theory but in the end everyone ends up in the gulag
they could not sell it if they told the truth m you know you catch more bees with honey than with vinegar
but in the end in USSR even the prolls ended up dead or in the gulag
working for the real owner class, the oligarchs
both capitalist and communist systems end up the same way , a futile slave class and a a super class
communist system - Roman Arbamovitch, capitalist system Michael Bloomberg
as two examples
that is why Wall St. funded the revolution in Russia
same people always end up at the top , not the proletariat or working class, certainly not middle class
both systems aim to eviscerate the middle class in the end

What no material analysis does to a mf

 

[Julie_Pilgrim]

What no material analysis does to a mf

OOOHHHHHHH

 

[The Catboy]

@SG854 I do want to mention I am not a boy, unless you were referring to @Lacius
That being said,

I don't need to backup anything.

Yes, you need to back up your claims and you are not a source. You are some random user with an inflated ego.

I don't need to backup anything. I've been paying close attention to what Trump and Biden's administrations have been doing to combat the virus. I would suggest searching for "covid-19 timeline". I also would suggest using the term "Wuhan coronavirus" in your search due to the fact the main stream media was calling it by that name for months before they switched to calling it COVID-19. I am not lying, but I really don't care if you believe me or not. I know what happened and that's good enough for me as your simple questioning of the factual nature of my claims doesn't prove my claims to be invalid.

For the suggestion to search for" Wuhan coronavirus" the majority of the articles listed are opinion pieces with very few back sources backing them. Just because Google turns up conspiracy, doesn't mean there's any weight to it.

My claims aren't up for debate. They are facts and part of history now. Go educate yourself or stay stupid. Either way I don't care to play your little games.

You know, because using the terms I said to search with pull up no valid results. There's hundreds of various timelines like this one out there.

https://www.defense.gov/Explore/Spotlight/Coronavirus/Timeline/

God, you people are really dumb if you think you can invalidate history.

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What in the Earth could this be? It must be some sort of black magic ....

Oh~ a timeline, yeah that's something but still not really any kind of source to back up your claims. I am starting to think you just hoped no one would press you on your nonsense. If this has proved anything, it's that you don't actually have any real sources and you are just hoping people believe you when you are spreading conspiracy trash. It takes an incredible level of arrogance to believe that your claims can't be debated and to believe they are facts.

Posting it was redundant as I already provided instructions on how to find sources. It just seems some people need their hand held like 5 year olds.

That's not how that works. If you tried that shit in an actual academic, you would be laughed out there.

 

[Julie_Pilgrim]

basically this thread

 

[SG854]

@SG854 I do want to mention I am not a boy, unless you were referring to @Lacius
That being said,

Yes, you need to back up your claims and you are not a source. You are some random user with an inflated ego.

For the suggestion to search for" Wuhan coronavirus" the majority of the articles listed are opinion pieces with very few back sources backing them. Just because Google turns up conspiracy, doesn't mean there's any weight to it.

Oh~ a timeline, yeah that's something but still not really any kind of source to back up your claims. I am starting to think you just hoped no one would press you on your nonsense. If this has proved anything, it's that you don't actually have any real sources and you are just hoping people believe you when you are spreading conspiracy trash. It takes an incredible level of arrogance to believe that your claims can't be debated and to believe they are facts.

That's not how that works. If you tried that shit in an actual academic, you would be laughed out there.

I don't know which comment I made you were referring to. Most likely I was talking about Lacius.

 

[The Catboy]

I don't know which comment I made you were referring to. Most likely I was talking about Lacius.

Make sense but thought I would politely say something ^-^

 

[SG854]

Make sense but thought I would politely say something ^-^

And I would politely accept your politeness

@SG854 I do want to mention I am not a boy, unless you were referring to @Lacius
That being said,

Yes, you need to back up your claims and you are not a source. You are some random user with an inflated ego.

For the suggestion to search for" Wuhan coronavirus" the majority of the articles listed are opinion pieces with very few back sources backing them. Just because Google turns up conspiracy, doesn't mean there's any weight to it.

Oh~ a timeline, yeah that's something but still not really any kind of source to back up your claims. I am starting to think you just hoped no one would press you on your nonsense. If this has proved anything, it's that you don't actually have any real sources and you are just hoping people believe you when you are spreading conspiracy trash. It takes an incredible level of arrogance to believe that your claims can't be debated and to believe they are facts.

That's not how that works. If you tried that shit in an actual academic, you would be laughed out there.

Imagine a Scientifc paper where the source says look it up

You scientist are such babies gosh. I don't need to hand hold Harvard Graduates.

 

[weatMod]

What no material analysis does to a mf

You really should have a read of Antony Sutton , "Wall St. And The Bolshevik revolution" ,and also Anatoly Golitsyn "New Lies For Old" and "The Perstroika Deception".
See also below, there is a lot of truth in this like "There are no nations" (because communism has already won and communism =globalism so no nations are allowed ) but also some lies, as "there are no ideologies anymore" (paraphrasing)

Spoiler

 

[Seliph]

you really should have a read of Antony Sutton , Wall St. and the Bolshevik revolution ,and also Anatoly Golitsyn New Lies For Old and The Perstroika Deception.

I'd rather not, Sutton's work is dubious at best and Golitsyn isn't much better, he claimed "the sino-soviet split was a charade to deceive the west". Which is a laughable claim and as a defector it was in his best interests to paint the union as badly as possible, not exactly an unbiased source, especially with his record. https://spartacus-educational.com/SSgolitsin.htm

Both of their collective works are just... rather silly. I mean, Sutton claims that wall street supported the Soviet Union which is an utterly hilarious and ahistorical conflict of interests. Socialism, if it were ever allowed to truly take root in the US would dissolve Wall Street where it stands. They make odd claims without backing that most historians tend not to support. I'd prefer real academics to shaky conspiracy theorists.

 

[weatMod]

I'd rather not, Sutton's work is dubious at best and Golitsyn isn't much better, he claimed "the sino-soviet split was a charade to deceive the west". Which is a laughable claim and as a defector it was in his best interests to paint the union as badly as possible, not exactly an unbiased source, especially with his record. https://spartacus-educational.com/SSgolitsin.htm

Both of their collective works are just... rather silly. They make odd claims without backing that most historians tend not to support. I'd prefer real academics to shaky conspiracy theorists.

Yes it is very possible that Golitsyn could have been a double agent put there to deceive us further
IMO the entire cold war a fake so there would be no need to deceive us in1989/1990
US allied with the USSR in the war , we were taken over a long time ago.
as for Sutton it is pretty well established that Trotsky was funded by Wall St.
but yes some of his other books are definitely dubious I will give you that.