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US congressional leaders have reached agreement on COVID stimulus bill (UPDATE: signed into law)

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Are you broken?
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1313551795646541824
"I have instructed my representatives to stop negotiating until after the election..."
No where in my statements have I stated polosi or mitch have not stalled covid relief.
also, that breaks your only statement, since trump has.

Again, your grasping straws, go cry some more.
I've already told you, saying after, is a very intentional word choice. Hell, he could of just said "after the election is over"
But he SPECIFICALLY said "after I win"

Oh I'm sorry, I forgot. I need to baby you.
First off, "like I said you can read the shit out of context"
what context am I somehow excluding? I am directly linking the president's fucking twitter
Second off "if you want and try to say what you think he means but him being confident he was goin to win is a lot different than what your saying."
Here's how it's a only statement.
What does he NOT tell you. The devil is in the details of what is not stated.
He does not tell you if he doesn't win. He does not state that.
Also he can't say only. since putting only between his statement
"until after the election when, immediately (only) after I win"
because it would sound wrong, and because people would get even more pissed.
Is it by any chance because he originally wanted to block covid relief?
Given how he whined and whined and whined about widespread election fraud, despite going 1-59 in court cases. and courts are supposed to impartial, and even then the lower courts are stacked in his favor.
I highly doubt it's in his personality to want to be nice. He does things strictly only for his benefit. We can conclude this when he asked Russia to find Hillary's emails and other situations that only strictly benefits him.
So we can apply that same logic back over here. He thought it was a benefit to holding covid relief like a bargaining chip, to get people on to his side. it obviously backfired
You are linking his fucking twitter then adding words and telling me what he ment and read between the lines. No where does he say no negotiations if he looses you imply it. He was simply being cocky in believing he won. Keep adding shit after you post the exact words he said doesnt mean he said it or ment to. Case in point how many times did i hear "huhuhu trump told us to inject bleach in our veins dumb ass huhuhu." People like you and the media tryin to make him look bad (added he dont need your or their help doing that) adding words into what he said and playing partial clips of the talk. I can see your one that just jumps to conclusions and believes the shit taken from "between the lines" you came up with or read somewhere else.
As morovan said earlier where was pelosi here



They didnt want his name on the check before election. Holding it hostage so he didnt get credit

Dont get me wrong im not a trump supporter but im definatly not a biden supporter and pelosi and half them all need to be hung in public. Things wont change until the people stand up and make the government for the people again instead of themselfs.
 
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You are linking his fucking twitter then adding words and telling me what he ment and read between the lines. No where does he say no negotiations if he looses you imply it. He was simply being cocky in believing he won. Keep adding shit after you post the exact words he said doesnt mean he said it or ment to. Case in point how many times did i hear "huhuhu trump told us to inject bleach in our veins dumb ass huhuhu." People like you and the media tryin to make him look bad (added he dont need your or their help doing that) adding words into what he said and playing partial clips of the talk. I can see your one that just jumps to conclusions and believes the shit taken from "between the lines" you came up with or read somewhere else.
As morovan said earlier where was pelosi here

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1313829415730786305

They didnt want his name on the check before election. Holding it hostage so he didnt get credit
Do you think that by any chance that tweet your linking has some correlation to my tweet?
Ahem.
October 6th:

and then that tweet happened on the next day...
Trump tells his team not to negotiate.
Then the next day, it's suddenly willing to.
Do you think by any chance you realize he got backlash?
Further more, if it's somehow pelosi issue in this specific case.
then that's some real bad case of double think.
Because literately the day before and I quote
"...request, and looking to the future of our Country. I have instructed my representatives to stop negotiating "
And now suddenly he wants to sign the bill, but it's apparently pelosi's problem? on October 7th? the next day?
Yeah your going to have to explain that to me.
 
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Do you think that by any chance that tweet your linking has some correlation to my tweet?
Ahem.
October 6th:
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1313551795646541824
and then that tweet happened on the next day...
Trump tells his team not to negotiate.
Then the next day, it's suddenly willing to.
Do you think by any chance you realize he got backlash?
Further more, if it's somehow pelosi issue in this specific case.
then that's some real bad case of double think.
Because literately the day before and I quote
"...request, and looking to the future of our Country. I have instructed my representatives to stop negotiating "
And now suddenly he wants to sign the bill, but it's apparently pelosi's problem? on October 7th? the next day?
Yeah your going to have to explain that to me.
He said he would sign a bill to put money in americans hands told her to get it going. She didnt want to "put his name on a check before the election" doesnt matter when he tweeted that or if he did because of backlash he still flat said he would and was waitin on her. Where did it go. Government working for themselves instead of the people. Its ass backwards
 
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He said he would sign a bill to put money in americans hands told her to get it going. She didnt want to "put his name on a check before the election" doesnt matter when he tweeted that or if he did because of backlash he still flat said he would and was waitin on her. Where did it go. Government working for themselves instead of the people. Its ass backwards
So you have no argument to refute my point.
Since essentially you just goal posted moved.
it was trump who was holding up the discussion.
(Again, he stated he wouldn't continue negations. and then a day later said he would. If that's not realizing you got backlash, I don't know what is)
Your end statement is correct It is the government working for themselves and not the people.
. your reason why it's correct is wrong.
Now to be clear it wasn't just trump. I'm pretty sure afterwords we got close at one point, if I recall correctly, but then Mitch said no, and then became the next person to stall

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also further on, why would trump need to put his name on the check?
like what purpose does that serve?
So if we entertain this whole idea that it was nancy holding things up. I would consider it really fucking stupid to have an argument about putting someones name on something when people's livelhoods are at stake. In other words, trump shouldn't have asked for that, it's stupid and pointless and only can help lengthen the process.
 
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Great news!

Here, have your 600$! That will fix your burdens! (Now please ignore the billions of dollars in pork/earmarks slapped on the bill that would have served better in the hands of the general public).

And yet I come on here and the discussion is about *Trump*? Gaw, what silly distraction.
 
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Great news!

Here, have your 600$! That will fix your burdens! (Now please ignore the billions of dollars in pork/earmarks slapped on the bill that would have served better in the hands of the general public.).
2020 in a nutshell regarding covid in the united states.
 

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that would have served better in the hands of the general public
Depends. Helicopter money usually isnt very efficient. Or at least there isnt much research on it being very efficient. ;)

If you can save a bunch of jobs (prevent people from getting fired) short term (by giving free money to companies and employers), you save a bunch, because not only is it higher efficiency (you deal with one guy, that has a bunch of employees), but when people drop out of job markets, that creates additional costs.

Just remember, that for the purpose of prepping up economies, corruption(industry access to government money), nepotism, and so on = good.

Roughly. :)
 
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So you have no argument to refute my point.
Since essentially you just goal posted moved.
it was trump who was holding up the discussion.
(Again, he stated he wouldn't continue negations. and then a day later said he would. If that's not realizing you got backlash, I don't know what is)
Your end statement is correct It is the government working for themselves and not the people.
. your reason why it's correct is wrong.
Now to be clear it wasn't just trump. I'm pretty sure afterwords we got close at one point, if I recall correctly, but then Mitch said no, and then became the next person to stall

--------------------- MERGED ---------------------------

also further on, why would trump need to put his name on the check?
like what purpose does that serve?
So if we entertain this whole idea that it was nancy holding things up. I would consider it really fucking stupid to have an argument about putting someones name on something when people's livelhoods are at stake. In other words, trump shouldn't have asked for that, it's stupid and pointless and only can help lengthen the process.
Yes it was democrats wanting this outrageous amount with this amount of fluff for this, and republicans wanting this amount with this fluff for that, and neither one willing to work with the other to make a deal. When democrats blamed trump and the republicans for saying no and trump recieved backlash (for something that wasnt his fault alone) he simply stated he would sign a bill to put $1200 in americans hands that day yet republicans refused to saying they wouldnt have him put his name on the checks (i assume this means get the credit for it because everyone i know got the money deposited straight to their banks. Also i dont know why they was worried about this anyway when they blamed trump for not signing the other bills to help the struggling american families and was given the offer to directly help them they refused.) Now your finally starting to see my point that its not trumps fault (even though everyone, especially democrats, blames him) its all the government. It needs a drastic change or just totally tore down and reassembled "for the people" like it was originally intended.
 
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because people tend to forget that the President gave the ok for 600$ .. that's why it was approved in the first place.
Apparently you have already forgotten if he didnt say anything you would only get $600 instead of $2000. Instantly take all credit away from him good job. Does 1 thing guaranteed right and for the average person and you still cant give him credit. What is that trump syndrom?
 
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considering how much of this money will go into (foreign-made) electronics, I suspect most will funnel down to other countries besides the U.S. ...way to stimulate that economy... pft.

Regarding Schools, counting each state and the multiple lotteries each state collects (daily, weekly, monthly), the monies each is supposed to pay to schools, and the fact that many winners don't collect in one lump sum (therefore their winnings are the interest on the collected monies...), and the fact that the total collected isn't given out as a payment....no school should ever need for pencils, paper etc, in the US.

Billions are collected daily, where are the transparent payments to the schools?

Check your politicians' pockets, that's where. Remember that when they ask for a raise.

Fact according to (Source Washington Post)... a certain president collected 200 million USD to investigate Biden election results, only 1.79 million was used for said purpose. (my second number may be off by up to half a million but that is all, to the best of my recollection.... just an example of said corruption... and they're worried about a measly $600 dollars. Hell $2000. is still a piss hole in the snow IMO.

sorry for the wall - o - text
but it IS better than Trumps wall.... lol
 
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Apparently you have already forgotten if he didnt say anything you would only get $600 instead of $2000. Instantly take all credit away from him good job. Does 1 thing guaranteed right and for the average person and you still cant give him credit. What is that trump syndrom?

.. oh I'm sorry... I 4got to give you your ...
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...there you feel better?
 

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Apparently you have already forgotten if he didnt say anything you would only get $600 instead of $2000. Instantly take all credit away from him good job. Does 1 thing guaranteed right and for the average person and you still cant give him credit. What is that trump syndrom?

i'd give him credit if his delay in signing didn't cause 13 million American's (my wife's included) unemployment to lapse. the guy fucked everyone over. sure, we get $600 each, but it fucked my wife out of 11 weeks of $519. get bent. for the record, she works as a care giver for the disabled, and those jobs have disappeared because there is no way to keep the disabled safe during a fucking pandemic. we'd be in a better situation if the president ordered more vaccine doses when he had the chance, but he didn't so we're all double fucked.
 
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