Hardware This is why you don't buy laptops for gaming.

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Bump. So does the laptop I got just plain suck or have I not changed some setting which will make it good for gaming?
 
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Switch to Linux... So you can't play a nice chunk of games.

Inb4 "B-b-but WINE"
I love Linux, but gaming in Wine is such a monumental pain in the ass that I'm not gonna bother installing Linux when I build my gaming computer. Getting some stuff set up properly on Linux is kinda satisfying, but getting games set up in Wine is just irritating.
 

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I got this really puny laptop, a Dell 3162, rocking an intel celeron n3050, 1.6 ghz dual core (with a 2.16 ghz turbo), 2 GB of DDR4 memory, a 32 GB SSD, and Intel HD 4000 graphics, and i can play games on it with relative ease, mostly older titles like Left 4 Dead 2 and Dead Space, but its still not "that" bad for 150 USD, if you must game on your laptop, or just want too in general, watch that video on low spec gamer's channel, as its an informative guide on how to survive with integrated laptop graphics
 

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I got this really puny laptop, a Dell 3162, rocking an intel celeron n3050, 1.6 ghz dual core (with a 2.16 ghz turbo), 2 GB of DDR4 memory, a 32 GB SSD, and Intel HD 4000 graphics, and i can play games on it with relative ease, mostly older titles like Left 4 Dead 2 and Dead Space, but its still not "that" bad for 150 USD, if you must game on your laptop, or just want too in general, watch that video on low spec gamer's channel, as its an informative guide on how to survive with integrated laptop graphics

The worst part is the price paid for this new laptop. You CAN game on a laptop, but performance will always be subpar unless you're paired with a true dedicated GPU. Also, an Intel processor in a laptop is usually better than an AMD "equivalent".
 
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There's definitely something wrong with your settings or your hardware - an A12-9700p should be able to run Battlefield 1 at 30FPS+, let alone less graphically-intense games like the ones you've tested. Either your Catalyst drivers are all over the place or you're running on Power Savers, there's no way you're getting such poor performance on stock settings.
Switch to Linux. Windows 10 is cancer.
While you may be right at some point. The OS won't change shit for the gaming performance. A couple of FPS at best.
That's both disgusting and wrong. Gaming on Linux is absolutely awful in every respect while Windows 10 is like a Formula 1 car, and will get increasingly better thanks to the latest implementation of DirectX which minimises the overhead on OS-GPU communication to the bare minimum. It's the system of choice for gaming, especially if you know how to optimise it correctly and excise the unnecessary add-ons.
 

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That's both disgusting and wrong. Gaming on Linux is absolutely awful in every respect while Windows 10 is like a Formula 1 car, and will get increasingly better thanks to the latest implementation of DirectX which minimises the overhead on OS-GPU communication to the bare minimum. It's the system of choice for gaming, especially if you know how to optimise it correctly and excise the unnecessary add-ons.
Oh I do not even argue about this fact. It was more of a general statement.
Like how some people argue a X version of Windows will make it better. I do know gaming on Linux is a hit and miss, and again, what I meant to say is that it wouldn't make it any better, only slightly if ever something do improve, which, honestly, I know is unlikely.

My bad if I made it sound like I implied that gaming on Linux would have improved the situation. :P
 

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That's both disgusting and wrong. Gaming on Linux is absolutely awful in every respect while Windows 10 is like a Formula 1 car, and will get increasingly better thanks to the latest implementation of DirectX which minimises the overhead on OS-GPU communication to the bare minimum. It's the system of choice for gaming, especially if you know how to optimise it correctly and excise the unnecessary add-ons.
DirectX 12 is hardly a selling point in Windows' favor when Vulkan exists. Not that I'm trying to claim that the Linux gaming scene is fantastic right now, but it is starting to build steam.
 

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The worst part is the price paid for this new laptop. You CAN game on a laptop, but performance will always be subpar unless you're paired with a true dedicated GPU. Also, an Intel processor in a laptop is usually better than an AMD "equivalent".

yeah, that was a rip off, i will admit but I figure showing the OP how to adjust the graphics on how to get a bit more oomph out of them never hurts.
 

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DirectX 12 is hardly a selling point in Windows' favor when Vulkan exists. Not that I'm trying to claim that the Linux gaming scene is fantastic right now, but it is starting to build steam.

Starting to build steam as of how long ago, though. Vulkan is cool and all, but hasn't exactly proven to be the DirectX killer. Maybe in time.

Not to mention the fact that Nvidia has some awkward disdain toward Linux as a whole.
 
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DirectX 12 is hardly a selling point in Windows' favor when Vulkan exists. Not that I'm trying to claim that the Linux gaming scene is fantastic right now, but it is starting to build steam.
I can't envision a future of ubiquitous Linux or Mac support in a world where some 90% of household PC's run Windows. It's not exactly like the mobile space where iOS and Android actually do fight for dominance - in the PC scene Windows is king, it has been for decades now. SteamOS was supposed to shake things up, but I'm just not seeing it - it's just Ubuntu with Steam Big Picture on-top. Then again, each to their own - I just prefer to run software on the OS it was designed to run on rather than relying on WINE and crossing my fingers. Vulkan is exciting though, I'll give you that - OpenGL is way too bloated at this point.
 

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I can't envision a future of ubiquitous Linux or Mac support in a world where some 90% of household PC's run Windows. It's not exactly like the mobile space where iOS and Android actually do fight for dominance - in the PC scene Windows is king, it has been for decades now. SteamOS was supposed to shake things up, but I'm just not seeing it - it's just Ubuntu with Steam Big Picture on-top. Then again, each to their own - I just prefer to run software on the OS it was designed to run on rather than relying on WINE and crossing my fingers. Vulkan is exciting though, I'll give you that - OpenGL is way too bloated at this point.
Not to mention that a simple API won't sway developers to all of a sudden add a new platform for support. If they can't see a market why would they bother. GPU drivers are also hit and miss, at least with Nvidias shallow support.
 
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Starting to build steam as of how long ago, though. Vulkan is cool and all, but hasn't exactly proven to be the DirectX killer. Maybe in time.

Not to mention the fact that Nvidia has some awkward disdain toward Linux as a whole.
I didn't call Vulkan a DirectX killer, but just pointing out that the supposed performance benefits of DirectX 12 are kinda moot when you've got Vulkan. And Vulkan has the advantage of being supported on platforms other than just Windows and Xbox. It's a young API, but it seems to be getting a lot of attention. You want your game to run on Xbone, PS4, and Switch? Then Vulkan is the obvious choice.
 
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I'm writing this from my Thinkpad, and not complaining about 50 FPS on Terraria with minimum resolution and low settings on Intel HD Graphics (frameskip on).
 
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I didn't call Vulkan a DirectX killer, but just pointing out that the supposed performance benefits of DirectX 12 are kinda moot when you've got Vulkan. And Vulkan has the advantage of being supported on platforms other than just Windows and Xbox. It's a young API, but it seems to be getting a lot of attention. You want your game to run on Xbone, PS4, and Switch? Then Vulkan is the obvious choice.
An API won't sway developers to add a new platform for support.
 
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